Re: Glee season 6 discussion and spoiler thread--Part 1

[Glorfindel]

Agree 100%. Blaine does not deserve a single tear from Kurt.

It doesn't matter, that is what the show is showing the character doing , whether you like it or not, the show for 4 years has shown that Kurt loves Blaine.  Just like it showed that despite everything , Rachel and Finn loved each other.

It may not matter to you, but it clearly does matter to others, even a lot to some (not even talking about myself here).

Many Kurtsies are still invested in Kurt, even though they know Glee is shit now. And although they can very well see, as you like to point out a lot, that RIB is just throwing horse manure at the walls now instead of writing nice closures for the characters, and that Chris will be free from this crap show in a few months, that doesn't mean these people (like posters here) can just stop feeling bad and sad for Kurt or don't care for what happens to him in canon in season 6. To them Kurt crying over Blaine (twice in 1 episode!) matters.

So I wouldn't dismiss these feelings from other posters that easily.

[Buenos]

Because Rachel knowing about Blaine dating Karofsky and having seen Kurt crying in her room, and/or Blaine knowing about Rachel's upteenth power struggle with Kurt, and them then still holding hands like this..... that would make them look uncaring towards Kurt and his feelings (not that this is new to both of them).

JFC, Kurt and Blaine have been split for months apparently, So it boggles my mind that Rachel and Blaine can't continue as friends.  So even if Rachel knows that Kurt still has feelings for Blaine, there is nothing she can do about it. IMO it's not a "betrayal" for her to be friends with both. Rachel and Blaine were friendly even when Kurt was battling with RAchel for Class president and was pissed at her and Kurt seemed OK with that.

The world even in the Glee world doesn't stop because Kurt and Blaine broke up.  Plus, per most spoilers, Kurt ENDED the relationship , so why should Rachel give a fuck if Blaine dates someone else, Kurt has moved on.   If he wants to get back Rachel will support him but this resentment I sense of any Blaine/Rachel scenes is quite transparent to me .  People bitch when Kurt is paired with Blaine or Rachel, and now there is bitching because he isn't paired with them.  

In addition we also know that Blaine and Rachel have a falling out by the end of 6.02 so i doubt there's is a friendship to end all friendships on the show, because I'm fairly sure that Hummelberry will continue as directors of New directions and Blaine of the Warblers.

[valkeakuulas]

For me Rachel already was very off character by just supporting the proposal, since she did first encourage Kurt in moving on with his life, and not to mention to other men. I'm personally in the boat where I've had to choose friends after breakup and I for some reason found Rachel's, and Mercedes's BTW, love of Klaine so frustrating because they didn't think or analyse Kurt's facade more. Rachel knows how to read Kurt, even better than Mercedes. She was one of the first ones to notice how lonely Kurt felt in HS....which led to one of the most beautiful duets ever, Happy Days.

Yes Glee makes no sense but never has the story premiss been as poor towards Kurt as it seems now. He might have gained all that confidence, easily shattered by Blaine though (body insecurity because of porn when he was the fittest he's ever been!) but now being right back in that little Lima box where everyone will probably be written as thinking Kurt has made the mistake of the century by dumping his bf and mark my words both of his bff's will be the biggest I TOLD YOU SOers. Because I'd feel terrible if my bff went to coffee dates and adventures around the town with my ex, hey I might even shed a few tears because of that as well.

[Buenos]

Agree 100%. Blaine does not deserve a single tear from Kurt.

It doesn't matter, that is what the show is showing the character doing , whether you like it or not, the show for 4 years has shown that Kurt loves Blaine.  Just like it showed that despite everything , Rachel and Finn loved each other.

It may not matter to you, but it clearly does matter to others, even a lot to some (not even talking about myself here).

Many Kurtsies are still invested in Kurt, even though they know Glee is shit now. And although they can very well see, as you like to point out a lot, that RIB is just throwing horse manure at the walls now instead of writing nice closures for the characters, and that Chris will be free from this crap show in a few months, that doesn't mean these people (like posters here) can just stop feeling bad and sad for Kurt or don't care for what happens to him in canon in season 6. To them Kurt crying over Blaine (twice in 1 episode!) matters.

So I wouldn't dismiss these feelings from other posters that easily.

Glorfindel, I speak for myself, it doesn't matter to me in the sense that I know the show is set on that path.  It is not going to change, Kurt and Blaine are going to end up together.

Just like you speak ONLY for  yourself, and not for other Kurties, I speak ONLY for myself. Neither of us are appointed the arbiters of anbody's else opinions.  I apologize if some thought I was censoring or minimizing them, but sure, others can get every upset about it.  I'm good for now but of cousre the show is going to piss me off during these last 13 episodes...LOL

[Ranwing]

I'm not ashamed to admit that I'm still far more invested than this show deserves but I'm finally at the point where I can emotionally detach (at least insofar as the stuff that upsets me isn't going to keep me up at night) and just accept that Glee ended at the end of season 4. Because what has been done since then has been disrespectful to not just the characters (all of which have been shredded in some manner) but the audience. Some of us have been watching since the pilot and it is sickening to see what they've done to this show. It is a result of a lack of imagination, refusing to let things go when they weren't working and not having any clear idea of how they wanted the storyline to progress. Once they hit the graduation wall, everything went downhill.

I'm sure that they'll make Kurt cry plenty in ep one. Because I'm sure it's going to be painful to see how quickly the guy who professed that Kurt was the love of his life was able to move on. It took Kurt months to be even open to the idea of dating Adam. And for Blaine to not only start with someone else quickly, but to have it be Kurt's former bully... yeah, that's going to hurt.

But after Kurt is done crying, I want him to get angry. That the boy that he loved so much is so feckless that he could start dating so quickly after their engagement ended. That Blaine will likely be blaming Kurt for his flunking out of NYADA. That he wasted years of his life on this emotionally stunted child who only knows of big romantic gestures and not real faithfulness. That Kurt deserves a lot better. But they won't do that. They won't let Kurt see how faithless Blaine is - that while he was pursuing Kurt he was lusting after Sam and that his reasons for getting engaged were less about being in love than making some political statement. That Blaine can only be happy if Kurt is left feeling weak and small.

But if Kurt can keep the other stuff - NYADA and a future on Broadway, I'll live with the canon sentencing him to be the caretaker of this perpetual toddler (at least until the inevitable divorce). I'm going to stay in my happy headcanon where Kurt never accepted Blaine's proposal and is happy in NY with Adam or Sebastian or Dave and all of this will just be something we can laugh at because it's so stupid.

[Buenos]

Ranwing, of course the divorce is coming...

It's been telegraphed by the writers, the poor boys are simply not compatible to live together.

[ColferInspired]

Spoilers of Kurt and new gay kid Spencer not leaving as friends.

[ChrisColferFan1]

Spoilers of Kurt and new gay kid Spencer not leaving as friends.

I excpted that.

[ColferInspired]

Knowing with these regular villians they become romantic with another character.

Spencer is in nine episodes, so you can deem him as a regular.

I want him to learn things from Kurt, not be a LI if they go that way as this the same storyline they have done too many times, with Quinn, Santana and Kitty.

The fact that Spencer wants to help Sue destroy the Glee Club is how all these storylines begin, so I can see them doing another repeat of the same storyline.

But I can see this actor playing Spencer will probably get more than nine if he is attractive and if he becomes popular.

Thing is if he did become a LI for Kurt, Klainers have no power to get rid of him as this is the final season. So, their whinging a whining will be met with silence from many.

Ryan has moved on, so what benefit would he get wanting to please them?

I do believe he is going scorched earth, and that maybe the Klainers won't get what they want.

Chris is reported to be really energetic and really happy.

So, maybe there is a storyline coming up for Kurt that has got him all excited.

[ColferInspired]

“Chris is very high energy and ready to go, the director would say ‘do this’ and he’d be like “Ok ok ok ok!” then dash off!

The way he said even “Ok” was charming. When he dashed off it was with eagerness like an eagle taking to flight.”
—      [x] [x] (via kurtsies)

[ChrisColferFan1]

Knowing with these regular villians they become romantic with another character.

Spencer is in nine episodes, so you can deem him as a regular.

I want him to learn things from Kurt, not be a LI if they go that way as this the same storyline they have done too many times, with Quinn, Santana and Kitty.

The fact that Spencer wants to help Sue destroy the Glee Club is how all these storylines begin, so I can see them doing another repeat of the same storyline.

But I can see this actor playing Spencer will probably get more than nine if he is attractive and if he becomes popular.

Thing is if he did become a LI for Kurt, Klainers have no power to get rid of him as this is the final season. So, their whinging a whining will be met with silence from many.

Ryan has moved on, so what benefit would he get wanting to please them?

I do believe he is going scorched earth, and that maybe the Klainers won't get what they want.

Chris is reported to be really energetic and really happy.

So, maybe there is a storyline coming up for Kurt that has got him all excited.

Good points. Maybe Chris is just happy for now at least the wedding is called off. Not trying to say how he feels,but I would be happy if I were him,about one thing at least in the storyline the wedding is called off at least for now.Maybe he is happy about working with Max Again ,or maybe he is happy about finally getting to do some real acting.

[Buenos]

Chris has never indicated he doesn't enjoy working on Glee.

The SL with Spencer is potentially interesting to me, conflict and perhaps ultimately friendship/mutual respect .  

[ColferInspired]

There is nothing to indicate in the spoilers that Spencer will make fun of Kurt or insult him.

I can see Spencer being naive and thinking it is safe to be gay in Lima and at McKinley that he thinks the world has progressed so much that he has nothing to worry about.

Depending on how good the actor is that plays Spencer, I hope they don't repeat the story of "Bash" for Spencer to learn that he still has be careful.

I can see them going the easy and lazy route by doing that.

[Buenos]

There is nothing to indicate in the spoilers that Spencer will make fun of Kurt or insult him.

I can see Spencer being naive and thinking it is safe to be gay in Lima and at McKinley that he thinks the world has progressed so much that he has nothing to worry about.

Depending on how good the actor is that plays Spencer, I hope they don't repeat the story of "Bash" for Spencer to learn that he still has be careful.

I can see them going the easy and lazy route by doing that.

Yes, I'm wondering if Spencer will be rudely awaken that homophobia is still alive and well, somewhere down the season. Like I said before, I am looking forward to all these potential conflicts for Kurt.

[Buenos]

[ColferInspired]

Could this be the one playing Spencer?

I have not seen anything about the actors that have been cast for the Newest ND.

Whoever is playing him, I bet he has more chemistry with Chris than Darren.

Chris always brings out the best in other actors.

[Buenos]

He might be with Vocal Adrenaline, they filmed a number today.

[Kurt addict]

Max George is one of te singers from the group Wanted who wants to go into acting, I think he is working with mark on glee

[Glorfindel]

Could this be the one playing Spencer?

Lead singer of Vocal Adrenaline is more likely:

@MaxGeorge Amazing team! Love you all!! Thanks for an awesome last 2 days! Xx

They still could make him a LI for Rachel, it wouldn't be the first time Rachel fell in love with the lead singer of Vocal Adrenaline.
Lather, rinse, repeat.

[Glorfindel]

If what some are speculating is true, and Blaine and Karofsky are faking their relationship, because either 1) Blaine panicked or 2) he wants to 'protect himself' from Kurt, or 3) is playing hard to get, then that doesnt only make Blaine look like a douchebag but Dave as well.

Dave ows a lot to Kurt:
- Kurt never outed him, not even when it meant that Kurt had to change schools.
- Kurt also never reported him (he only did when Mr. Shue initiated it when he saw him in the hallway upset, and again: without mentioning Dave was gay, and without mentioning the kiss).
- Kurt forgave Dave rather quickly afterwards.
- Kurt could have reacted a lot angrier and more negative when he found out Dave had been stalking him and leaving him Valentines dressed as a gorilla, luring him into meeting him at the Lima Bean.
- Kurt went to Dave in the hospital after he tried to commit suicide.

Kurt did all this for Dave, and now Dave would 'repay' those kind deeds by faking a relationship with Blaine? That would be a very scumbag thing to do.
So for Dave's sake I hope that Blainofsky is real, although I still think it's not a real nice nor respectful thing to do: dating the ex of your former victim (who you regret hurting in the past so very much, so you just hurt him again intentionally in the present?).

I know, I know: RIB don't care about any of this.


Chris being so cheerful at the filming yesterday makes me glad. I dare not hope, but maybe he indeed knows there are indeed some nice things coming for Kurt. Although he could just be enjoying working with the old gang and e.g. Max again, or just being happy in his personal life and having a goofy day. Who knows.
I won't get my hopes up untill I see him tweeting something from set, like he did when he worked with OKJ, sexy Santa and Adam Lambert. That seems to me a good indication he's enthusiastic about something on Glee.

[Buenos]

With regular writers they would point out how creepy and assholey Karofsky is acting.  "Valentine" :  The whole stalking and trying to date Kurt when he knew Kurt was going around with Blaine and probably thought Blaine was the  giving him all those gifts just just so incredibly awkward/creepy.  Then constantly texting Kurt and trying to commit suicide...

So to now date Blaine?  

It's interesting Sebastian would be just as bad for Kurt, but at least with Sebastian Kurt would face someone who would be presented openly as cruel/jerk/straight out asshole.  I think the writers are afraid to present Karofsky in less than a flattering light.

It's amusing  to me how some Blainers/Klainers  seem desperate in saying that this time Kurt is at fault and must pine and woo Blaine and court/propose him.

I almost feel bad for them because its so obvious that while they try to ignore it, the subtext of what the writers put Blaine through, that is  the stench of the whole Cheating/fucking a Face book guy has never really gone away.

So to them Kurt breaking off an engagement where they were both fighting somehow "levels" the field , because THIS time Kurt is the "one at fault."  Say what?

Poor fans, spreading your legs to fuck or get fucked by a random facebook guy you just met hours after talking to your boyfriend to set up a NY weekend isn't quite the same thing, is it?  

Looking at the positive, Chris is going to kill it with the angst!!    I'm hoping Chris and Max get at least one good scene together because they have fantastic chemistry!!

[brisallie]

@Buenos, I agree with you that blainers/klainers are so desperate. I've read several statements that finally things are "equal" as now is Kurt the one chasing blaine. WHAT? You know, this proves me once again they only care about ONE SIDE of klaine, and we know perfectly what side is. For me what they're trying to do is saving Blaine, and I'm sorry, but I'm not sure if they will succeed, as at least from my POV, he is the one who was eager to get married, and then when the engagement is called off, his mourning lasted as long as he find a new guy.Oh, I forgot, he probably is dating Karofsky as a way to get Kurt back, yeah that's so romantic.

You know, usually I get so upset when it comes to Glee spoilers, but something that makes me feel relieved, and is also I've noticed, is that whatever is the crap Kurt will face, at the end he would go out of it triumphantly; as I think people will notice he had a reason why he dumped a whiny boy like Blaine. And though, by other side I expect several complaints if he goes back to Blaine, overall I think his image is/will be better than the one blaine has.

p.s As for the blainchel pictures, I understand if some feel outraged as seems they're replacing hummelberry. But if this were a well written show it will be explained that sometimes as it happens in RL, even though a couple split, ex bf/gf can still be friends with the rest of the gang. In addition, it would be nice if they address if she and Blaine have an agreement to not talk about Kurt; and the same goes for Rachel and Kurt.

[Buenos]

Seriously, it's not like this "pretty" can ever be replaced...

[ColferInspired]

I see Blaine and Rachel as besties 6x1 but then after the Jane debacle they are enemies.

[sheny]

Glee - Friday (September 19, 2014) - Call Sheet
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   Episode 601, Scene 8
   Rachel
   McKinley Hallway - Uninvited: Rachel haunts the hallways and goes to her old locker

   Episode 602, Scene 43
   Rachel and Jane
   McKinley - Will’s Office: Jane pressures Rachel to let her join the New Directions

   Episode 601, Scene 27
   Will, Rachel, and Vocal Adrenaline
   Carmel Auditorium - Dance the Night Away: Vocal Adrenaline rehearses; Will counsels Rachel

Glee - Thursday (September 18, 2014) - Call Sheet
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   Episode 601, Scene 12
   Rachel and Blaine
   Ext. Music Store: Rachel sings while they walk

   Episode 601, Scene 13
   Rachel and Blaine
   Int. Music Store: Blaine plays the piano, the crowd politely claps

   Episode 601, Scene 41 (End of Act 5)
   Kurt, Blaine, Dave
   Scandals: Kurt meets Blaine, Karofsky’s arrival stuns Kurt

   Episode 601, Scenes 42 and 44 (Act 6)
   Kurt, Blaine, Dave
   Scandals: Blaine’s bear love tests Kurt’s mettle

   Episode 601, Scene 43
   Blaine, Dave, bar patrons
   Flashback - Scandals: Country Bear night; electric slide

   Episode 601, Scene 45
   Kurt
   Scandals restroom: Kurt can’t keep the tears in

Glee - Wednesday (September 17, 2014) - Call Sheet

   Episode 602, Scene 26
   Kurt and Spencer
   Weight room: Spencer (Marshall Williams) says no because Glee club sucks

   Episode 602, Scene 19 (End of Act 1)
   Rachel, Mercedes, Kurt, Artie, Tina, Puck, Quinn, Santana, Brittany, Sam
   Auditorium: Rachel brings back the old Glee Club

   Episode 602, Scene 38 (End of Act 4)
   Rachel, Mercedes, Kurt, Artie, Tina, Puck, Quinn, Santana, Brittany, Sam, Roderick, and the band
   Auditorium:  Roderick (Noah Guthrie) auditions with Mustang Sally

   Episode 601, Scene 20
   Kurt
   Flashback - NYADA Hallway: Students look at magazines and brochures

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