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Post  Glorfindel on 8/28/2013, 4:56 am

Buenos wrote:Sorry I can't buy this "sidekick" status for Kurt.  
As a an actor and character, he isn't overshadowed ever, even with Rachel and Santana, two verifiable scene stealers, KUrt/Chris has always more than hold his own in scenes with them .  He's never been wallpaper in any scene.  Finn, Rachel, Burt, Blaine, Sue, etc Kurt more than matches them on screen.

So until I see it, rumors of his demise and descent into  a sidekick are just that rumors.  Razz
I don't think anyone here doubts that Chris could not hold himself up in scenes with others and therefore disappear to the background as 'sidekick'.

What I think the sentiment 'sidekick' means in this context is that Kurt will not get decent storylines of himself anymore, and his existence on Glee will revolve almost solely around supporting Rachel and being Blaine's love interest.
And really: that was basically Kurt in season 4. dryy

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Post  Lottie2303 on 8/28/2013, 5:01 am

Yes, and still Glee tried to make dramatic storylines and all people talked about was Kurt eating cookies in the blurred background. You'd think they have learnt. beam 

I am so convinced they believe in case Klaine reunites, Kurtsies will be happy to get more screentime. I am still convinced they underestimate the sheer numbers of non-Blarren/Klaine fans.
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Post  valkeakuulas on 8/28/2013, 5:02 am

Buenos wrote:
valkeakuulas wrote:
Buenos wrote:Sorry I can't buy this "sidekick" status for Kurt.  
As a an actor and character, he isn't overshadowed ever, even with Rachel and Santana, two verifiable scene stealers, KUrt/Chris has always more than hold his own in scenes with them .  He's never been wallpaper in any scene.  Finn, Rachel, Burt, Blaine, Sue, etc Kurt more than matches them on screen.

So until I see it, rumors of his demise and descent into  a sidekick are just that rumors.  Razz
I know it's all depression, panic and over working brains but the way you phrase it here makes it sound like 17th century epic battles between "two households both alike in dignity...etc. etc."! Smile
Are we already back in Verona?

That was Season 3; "I am Unicorn." Razz 
I wish Glee would get even few of the storylines the classics have used successfully right. But judging with the general level of ingenious script writing *insert bitterness here* I have to doubt that none of the writers have actually read anything prior 20th century, or atleast payed some sort of consentration when taught at schools. Any schools, be it elementary, college of film school.

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Post  valkeakuulas on 8/28/2013, 5:05 am

Lottie2303 wrote:Yes, and still Glee tried to make dramatic storylines and all people talked about was Kurt eating cookies in the blurred background. You'd think they have learnt. beam 

I am so convinced they believe in case Klaine reunites, Kurtsies will be happy to get more screentime. I am still convinced they underestimate the sheer numbers of non-Blarren/Klaine fans.
But they have already won! Most of us will settle for just seeing Chris play Kurt, even for those precious two or three minutes. I certainly did last season. Shame on me! We've been duped many times already. Wink
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Post  Lottie2303 on 8/28/2013, 5:12 am

valkeakuulas wrote:
Lottie2303 wrote:Yes, and still Glee tried to make dramatic storylines and all people talked about was Kurt eating cookies in the blurred background. You'd think they have learnt. beam 

I am so convinced they believe in case Klaine reunites, Kurtsies will be happy to get more screentime. I am still convinced they underestimate the sheer numbers of non-Blarren/Klaine fans.
But they have already won! Most of us will settle for just seeing Chris play Kurt, even for those precious two or three minutes. I certainly did last season. Shame on me! We've been duped many times already. Wink
Don't underestimate Kurt edits (or for other charcaters). People will stop watching the sows, download the few minutes on tumblr and ignore the rest of the show. That means no song sales, no viewer ratings, no heavy discussion on important boards. Character edits will be the downfall for Glee, as too many just cannot stomach the entire episode anymore, but are reluctant to let go of their favorite. It is the best solution.
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Post  Kurt Hummel on 8/28/2013, 5:19 am

As much I love Darren/Blaine, I will be happy if Chris/Kurt gets more screen time because he wasn't shown that much last season.
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Post  Buenos on 8/28/2013, 5:20 am

I can't think of a single male characterin the history of network TV who has had as many outift changes as Kurt Hummel , outside of a variety show.

Anyone can think of something comparable?
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Post  Georgette888 on 8/28/2013, 5:23 am

Kurt Hummel wrote:As much I love Darren/Blaine, I will be happy if Chris/Kurt gets more screen time because he wasn't shown that much last season.
No, he really wasn't.

Buenos wrote:I can't think of a single male characterin the history of network TV who has had as many outift changes as Kurt Hummel , outside of a variety show.

Anyone can think of something comparable?
No. Not male.
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Post  Buenos on 8/28/2013, 5:23 am

The crazy thing is that Chris is being paid anywhere from 75-100 K per episode, is used heavily in promotions/marketing and yet sometimes just gets few minutes cameo on the show last year.

I WANT his job...neutre 
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Post  Georgette888 on 8/28/2013, 5:27 am

TBH, I think FOX surely must have put their foot down and said for that money, you need to actually start fucking using Lea and Chris. And Jane too actually. Surely?!
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Post  Lottie2303 on 8/28/2013, 5:31 am

Georgette888 wrote:TBH, I think FOX surely must have put their foot down and said for that money, you need to actually start fucking using Lea and Chris. And Jane too actually. Surely?!
Common sense would suggest so. But this is Glee - I cannot wrap my head around the fact that they were neglected in the first place.
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Post  Buenos on 8/28/2013, 5:31 am

Georgette888 wrote:TBH, I think FOX surely must have put their foot down and said for that money, you need to actually start fucking using Lea and Chris. And Jane too actually. Surely?!
Add Matt Morrison, he gets paid as much.

It's mind boggling that they shell out between 400-500K per episode for these 4 actors who work only part time at best. Crazy , no?
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Post  Kurt Hummel on 8/28/2013, 5:34 am

Buenos wrote:I can't think of a single male characterin the history of  network TV who has had as many outift changes as Kurt Hummel , outside of a variety show.

Anyone can think of something comparable?
No but that's one thing I love about Kurt. Each outfit is unique. neutre wub 
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Post  Georgette888 on 8/28/2013, 5:37 am

Buenos wrote:
Georgette888 wrote:TBH, I think FOX surely must have put their foot down and said for that money, you need to actually start fucking using Lea and Chris. And Jane too actually. Surely?!
Add Matt Morrison, he gets paid as much.

It's mind boggling that they shell out between 400-500K per episode for these 4 actors who work only part time at best. Crazy , no?
Oh,yes. I was just assuming the rumours that they have agreed to write him out are true.

It is mindboggling crazy.
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Post  Buenos on 8/28/2013, 5:40 am

Plus you figure in her 5th year on Glee Naya has to making at least 50-70K per episode and she also was underutilized last year. Is there a pattern here..

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Post  Lottie2303 on 8/28/2013, 5:42 am

Seriously, I cannot blame Matt Morrison, Dianna Agron, Jayma Mays, Amber Riley and Co for being happy to be off the show. I also bet some of the still regular cast members are counting the days. I'd do a lot to get an insight of the true makings of Glee. I bet it is worth a TV show itself with material for 5 seasons.
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Post  Georgette888 on 8/28/2013, 5:48 am

They have the newbies at bargain basement prices from what I have heard. However, when you factor in all those salaries for the veterans and all the expensive guest stars, Glee is still not a cheap bill. FOX must want more bang for their buck, as it were.
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Post  ColferInspired on 8/28/2013, 5:50 am

None of it makes sense. blinkk 

I have never known a show to not use their best talent.

I watch Teen Wolf, and everyone is used.

Stiles is my favourite, but I love all the other characters as well.

And is interesting how a lot of the Teen Wolf fanbase is a lot of former Gleeks or still are Gleeks. What is interesting many are Chris fans.

Well, the ones I follow are.
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Post  Lottie2303 on 8/28/2013, 5:54 am

ColferInspired wrote:None of it makes sense. blinkk 

I have never known a show to not use their best talent.

I watch Teen Wolf, and everyone is used.

Stiles is my favourite, but I love all the other characters as well.

And is interesting how a lot of the Teen Wolf fanbase is a lot of former Gleeks or still are Gleeks. What is interesting many are Chris fans.

Well, the ones I follow are.
And Oliver is friends with Daniel Sherman. I am already having casting dreams for him being the next big baddy.

Stiles and Kurt should totally be cousins. That'd be funny!
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Post  Kurt Hummel on 8/28/2013, 5:55 am

ColferInspired wrote:None of it makes sense. blinkk 

I have never known a show to not use their best talent.

I watch Teen Wolf, and everyone is used.

Stiles is my favourite, but I love all the other characters as well.

And is interesting how a lot of the Teen Wolf fanbase is a lot of former Gleeks or still are Gleeks. What is interesting many are Chris fans.

Well, the ones I follow are.
It doesn't make sense to me either.

Off topic: I love Teen Wolf wub 
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Post  Lottie2303 on 8/28/2013, 6:01 am

Kurt Hummel wrote:Off topic: I love Teen Wolf wub 
It stays on topic as I repeat I want Oliver on the show whis 

However, on a fair note, TW is also showing very telling signs of misogyny. The finale made me so mad, as TW is very good to apologize for serial killer maniacs just because they have a great body. badday 

Rant over. Sorry, I needed to say this since a while. I am going back in topic again
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Post  Kurt Hummel on 8/28/2013, 6:04 am

Lottie2303 wrote:
Kurt Hummel wrote:Off topic: I love Teen Wolf wub 
It stays on topic as I repeat I want Oliver on the show whis 

However, on a fair note, TW is also showing very telling signs of misogyny. The finale made me so mad, as TW is very good to apologize for serial killer maniacs just because they have a great body. badday 

Rant over. Sorry, I needed to say this since a while. I am going back in topic again
Haha. That would be interesting to see Oliver on Teen Wolf.

I thought the finale was pretty good but I see what you mean.
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Post  ColferInspired on 8/28/2013, 6:09 am

Kurt Hummel wrote:
Lottie2303 wrote:
Kurt Hummel wrote:Off topic: I love Teen Wolf wub 
It stays on topic as I repeat I want Oliver on the show whis 

However, on a fair note, TW is also showing very telling signs of misogyny. The finale made me so mad, as TW is very good to apologize for serial killer maniacs just because they have a great body. badday 

Rant over. Sorry, I needed to say this since a while. I am going back in topic again
Haha. That would be interesting to see Oliver on Teen Wolf.

I thought the finale was pretty good but I see what you mean.
I saw that to if I am getting what you mean, as in Jennifer Blake?

Though was relieved they are keeping twins.
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Post  sheny on 8/28/2013, 6:41 am

Lottie2303 wrote:
Kurt Hummel wrote:Off topic: I love Teen Wolf wub 
It stays on topic as I repeat I want Oliver on the show whis 

However, on a fair note, TW is also showing very telling signs of misogyny. The finale made me so mad, as TW is very good to apologize for serial killer maniacs just because they have a great body. badday 

Rant over. Sorry, I needed to say this since a while. I am going back in topic again
It's the same with almost all supernatural shows or tv shows in general. I watch The Vampire Diaries and the good looking bad guys are always getting away with killing innocent people and winning the girls after doing horrible things to them, their friends and families.

We are lucky Glee is not that kind of show or people would be shipping Kurt with the guy who killed his mother or set his school on fire with the students still in it.

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Post  Lottie2303 on 8/28/2013, 7:34 am

[quote="ColferInspired"]
Kurt Hummel wrote:I saw that to if I am getting what you mean, as in Jennifer Blake?

Though was relieved they are keeping twins.
I find the twins so bland. Also, once again all the female antagonists get killed off, while the males ones get resurrected or redeemed. I am flabbergasted that everyone seems to forget that Peter killed Laura. It is like, it doesn't matter.

Glee also has very heavy undertones of misogyny and you can clearly see it is written by males and how they perceive females. Generally, I find it sad how hard it is to find great TV shows that treat males and females equally fairly.
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