Re: Kurt Hummel Snark & Bark Thread--Part 5

[Divalicious]

I do think the Anders have some love for Chris' voice. I've read that other than essential character voices scripted they get to choose the rest. I noticed that while Kurt only have one stanza, he had the one right after a well of music, and it sounded rich and beautiful in the Scientist. I bought that, and really enjoy it, and while I bought Don't Speak, I don't enjoy it as much. They had Lea's voice very loud, you'd think they'd be able to mix it better. Less is more, but I am sure they were told to make her the "star" of the song.

Am very much hoping Kurt does "Grace Kelly" for his NYADA audition, or in response to what he perceives as lack of interest on Carmen's part. I love that song, I even named my little female kitten after it. Anyone else singing it would really hurt my love for the song. It belongs to Kurt, my kitten says so. and she is such a cute little fuzzy gray kitty that she must be right.

Speaking of the overabundence of certain singers, part of my was pondering recently if their tons of Glee singing might actually hinder their albums, because people have heard their voice so much. Chris, on the other hand, would probably sell a great deal, because we just don't get to hear his warm rich voice.

Perhaps we need to start tweeting Chris #albumforfans. I would buy multiple copies, I don't even care what genre he sings. Man, I miss his voice not being covered over by the overload voices of others. Goes to listen to that line in the Scientist over and over.

[bayth]

What I love about Chris' part of The Scientist was he sang the line "Pulling the puzzle apart" after Blaine sang "my missing puzzle piece". I thought that was pretty clever.

Chris did several interviews this summer - didn't he mention recording an album for the fans...or was that a hallucination. And I'm totally in the wrong thread - aren't I....

[sheny]

Once Blaine it wasn't named one of those characters that provoke hate/love on people? Well that's what happening right now. The fandom is started to get tired of him, I just came from another forum and what I've read the most is they don't hear more songs from the short boy. And they're sure he's singing a lot because RM has a fixation with him, well actually that's not a secret.

The writers haven't realized what the overexposure of this character is causing?

@Sheny, I love your avatar

Thank you!

[fantastica]

^ i hope you are not hallucinating, but there's no indication whatsoever that chris would be interested in getting into the recording biz.

p.s. just read that lea is working on her solo albums too. she doesn't write music but she is working w/ some song writers which is what a lot of singers do. at least she said before that she would do albums. chris always said that he had no aspiration in gettting into teh music biz.

[Divalicious]

Well, he has no aspirations, but he said he would do it for the fans if they requested it. I can really see him coming through with that, perhaps after Glee is kaput. His rich lower tones, or his angelic upper range, sounds blissful. So I really hope one day we might see it.

[fantastica]

It's a lot of work going into recording, and then promoting and concerts etc. and you are not likely to make any money from it. my son is in the music business and he said artists won't see a penny until the producers get all their investment back. and the recording industry is all about producing 'stars" or else they dump you. it's not a very pleasant place for young artists. you really have to have a lot of passion for what you do to do well. it's a lot of trouble to produce an album. singing the songs are the easiest part.

[MissSoniaPP]

Th thing is, his songs aren't selling nearly as well as they used to. In fact, the songs that sold the least this week were Teenage Dream and Barely Breathing. The Scientist was first followed by GYHAB.

My comment on this is

[Ranwing]

Speaking of the overabundence of certain singers, part of my was pondering recently if their tons of Glee singing might actually hinder their albums, because people have heard their voice so much. Chris, on the other hand, would probably sell a great deal, because we just don't get to hear his warm rich voice.

Right now, the track record for Glee performers putting out albums is not at all promising. Matt's absolutely tanked and Mark's I think was bought only by his mother and a few cousins. So I don't think that Darren's or Lea's will really sell the numbers that TPTB think they will. Darren will get a boost from the Starkid's addicts who'll buy pretty much anything he does regardless of how good it is. But Lea is going to be a much harder sell. She could cover Broadway standards, but that won't appeal to the part of the Glee audience that their aiming at. And her pop performances are, to put it charitably, uneven. She is not Adele and has apparently lost all ability to dial back the power notes and just screams everything. Right now sales across the board for albums are down (when you see highly regarded, established artists struggling to move product). I just cannot see Lea selling big numbers.

[Jellyrolls]

Darren's album will probably sell the best of any of them, but it's not going to be huge. He just has an OK voice, and it's not going to blow away people who aren't his fans. There are much better singer and songwriters out there.

I can't see Amber or Naya's CDs doing particularly well. Though they both have decent voices, they aren't unique or spectacular. And neither of them has the personality or dancability to make up for their average voices.

Lea's would probably sell better as a Broadway cover album than a pop album. It wouldn't be super huge, but people who like her would buy it.

[Divalicious]

I don't think anyone's musical career will go very far while on Glee, come to think of it. Why would someone buy an album, when they can watch the show to see them perform the song. At least in Lea's case, she gets tons of airtime, same with Blaine. Naya got lot of exposure last year, so we will have to see if she picks up Mercedes share as well, or if that is used in ND singers.

[sheny]

I'm posting this video here. I don't know if it is 'Snark and bark' material, but I find it very funny and shows what the Glee fandom thinks about RIB. Maybe some of you have already seen it.

[Glorfindel]

^OMG, that is so accurate!

[tanita_mors]

haven't laughed so much in a while !!!!! god, i love those spoofs.

[Delight]

That Glee spoof is genius

Now when I think about it, it is kinda creepy for the writers to insert that unnecessary Blaine showering scene in the montage for 'Fighter'.

[tanita_mors]

it's not creep per say. they were aware how crazy blarren stans went when those semi naked pics of him came out, so they capitalized on that. he is their vary own sexy teen idol.

[Delight]

it's not creep per say. they were aware how crazy blarren stans went when those semi naked pics of him came out, so they capitalized on that. he is their vary own sexy teen idol.

^ No fair. Why don't they notice the Chris Colfer sex riots online then?

Ah, I say this, but to be honest. I hope they continue to preserve Kurt's modesty on this show (because I feel this strange, protective urge to protect Chris's modesty). The directors wouldn't even allow him to wear a tank-top for his 'sex scene' so I doubt we'd be seeing much skin from Kurt. Ever.

[Glorfindel]

^But what we get (like his bare shoulders in the skype scene) we appreciate even more.


I can't believe there are so many Blainers on tumblr and several forums (GF, TWoP) making excuses for Blaine, and worse: blaming Kurt for what happened.
I can ignore the clear stans, who will do anything to defend their fave, but what really pisses me off are the 'Klainers' who have had no hesitations ever for vilifying and grilling Kurt for every little misstep he has made in the past, without having any sympathy or clemency for him (as they think that Kurt is cold-hearted), while now they have all the sympathy in the world for Blaine.
I mean, I don't mind people feeling sympathy for Blaine, if he indeed has his mental problems, but the hypocricy of it all !!!

Plus they keep talking about Blaine's pain, but gloss over that he hurt Kurt so bad that Kurt has enough pain on his own, thank you very much. But they simply forget that, or dismiss it easily, so they can talk about poor Blainers again.

[M&M]

^But what we get (like his bare shoulders in the skype scene) we appreciate even more.


I can't believe there are so many Blainers on tumblr and several forums (GF, TWoP) making excuses for Blaine, and worse: blaming Kurt for what happened.
I can ignore the clear stans, who will do anything to defend their fave, but what really pisses me off are the 'Klainers' who have had no hesitations ever for vilifying and grilling Kurt for every little misstep he has made in the past, without having any sympathy or clemency for him (as they think that Kurt is cold-hearted), while now they have all the sympathy in the world for Blaine.
I mean, I don't mind people feeling sympathy for Blaine, if he indeed has his mental problems, but the hypocricy of it all !!!

Plus they keep talking about Blaine's pain, but gloss over that he hurt Kurt so bad that Kurt has enough pain on his own, thank you very much. But they simply forget that, or dismiss it easily, so they can talk about poor Blainers again.

Here's the thing I have noticed about like 90% of Klainers. They are really Blaine stans masquerading as Klainers. I think a majority of Kurtsies left that ship a long time ago, so this is what's left. They love their blangst, and maybe there will be a deeper reason that Blaine is an ass, though I suspect not because I don't think the show will go that deep into it except to have Bland sing solos. I think Blainers, for some odd reason, like to compare Blaine's emotional pain to Kurt. I'm sorry, we have seen all of Kurt's pain and problems on screen. Until I see some proof of Blaine's bad dad and Sadie Hawkins as more than a passing sentence, or until he doesn't actually win something he wants, then no, I will not believe that Blaine is so alone.

[sheny]

^But what we get (like his bare shoulders in the skype scene) we appreciate even more.


I can't believe there are so many Blainers on tumblr and several forums (GF, TWoP) making excuses for Blaine, and worse: blaming Kurt for what happened.
I can ignore the clear stans, who will do anything to defend their fave, but what really pisses me off are the 'Klainers' who have had no hesitations ever for vilifying and grilling Kurt for every little misstep he has made in the past, without having any sympathy or clemency for him (as they think that Kurt is cold-hearted), while now they have all the sympathy in the world for Blaine.
I mean, I don't mind people feeling sympathy for Blaine, if he indeed has his mental problems, but the hypocricy of it all !!!

Plus they keep talking about Blaine's pain, but gloss over that he hurt Kurt so bad that Kurt has enough pain on his own, thank you very much. But they simply forget that, or dismiss it easily, so they can talk about poor Blainers again.

Some of them use Kurt's texting with Chandler as a way to defend Blaine. Because in their minds accepting compliments from another boy equals having sex with someone else. I just want to point out that we never saw Kurt answering those messages only accepting them and enjoying the attention. Not that it matters. There is no comparison between the two cases.

This is what one idiot on AfterElton wrote. I don't know why are bother reading nonsense. But is this guy serious? I liked the answers other people wrote. They all are on Kurt's side.

Posted by Ed Meiller
(101 posts) on October 07, 2012 at 10:55am

"I don't feel sorry for Kurt or Rachel. Both of their careers are more important than their "partners". That's fine but I don't think Blaine and Finn have anything to aologize for. Kurt and Rachel should win the Emmy for drama queens."

[Glorfindel]

^God, these people make me sick.

Even when for some people cheating pre-medidated (!) with a random facebook guy can be a forgiveable act, this still does not equal Blaine's cheating with Kurt's flirt texting.

Reading the Blainers' excuse posts I can only imagine that they are young teenagers who never were in a serious relationship before. They have no idea what sex really means for most people, how intimate it is, nor how much a relationship relies on trust and respect.

I've been discussing elsewhere that cheating like this is somewhat accepted in certain gay circles, especially when it comes to men. I think that this is how Ryan Murphy's mind works, and that's why he's made this huge miscalculation. But there are also many gay people who value monogamous relationships and will not accept what Blaine has done.
And knowing Kurt, the big romantic, I don't think he would ever take Blaine back.

I don't think I can stomach Glee anymore if Kurt takes Blaine back without some serious groveling and soul searching from Blaine, and even then I don't think I can stand looking at them together anymore.
But that's probably what the show will do anyway.

[coxfire]

In all honesty, apart from harcore Blaine-stans, most of the viewers/commenters don't side with Blaine. Some might point out that Kurt was neglectful but most of the time they still condemn Blaine more than Kurt. I don't think that mature viewers, who knows what it is to be absorbed by work were judging Kurt as harshly as some teenagers do.

And what some of these tennagers seem to forget when they say that "Blaine was ALL alone" is that Kurt was on his own too. I read someone saying "Kurt has Rachel and a lovely family home" and I was like: Sorry? if Kurt has no time for his boyfriend, do you really think he has time for his family, as lovely as it is? And if he is so absorbed by work, so much he works till midnight, do you really think he has time to spend with Rachel? that he wouldn't rather call Blaine in this case?

The fact is that everything was shown from Blaine's POV, and I fear the aftermath will also be from Blaine's POV. So we had nothing on how Kurt was feeling about adjusting to a new job, how he felt not having time as he used to to talk to his boyfriend, or to his Dad. He didn't even have Finn, who was MIA. Kurt's loneliness what only broached once, when he told Blaine, but since it wasn't shown it's not supposed to exist in the mind of some viewers.

[Divalicious]

Kurt is strong, one of the reasons why we love him so much. Blaine is actually shown to be weak emotionally, although they push that he is physically strong with the whole fight club thing.

Yeah, I know, Blaine was all alone, alone except for his Facebook. Able to fly to NY to confess, but not fly to NY to get the sex he so obviously needed like RIGHT NOW.

I think it was done mainly to make Blaine a real person, full of flaws. It was actually brave of the writers to not only take the pedastal but to dash it to bits. I am hoping that this be an exploration of why he is in love with Kurt, to shut up all the people who think that only macho-passing gays are acceptable partners. Time to extoll a few virtues of Kurt, other than being adorable.

Kurt, on the other hand, has vowed eternal love to the only boy who was nice and kissed him. His only other boy kiss was a forced one from David. Not a lot of range to compare to, it would be interesting for him to come to his own conclusion that he likes Blaine's kisses best, or whatever, not these are the only kisses I will ever get and I'd better make do. Blaine, with the Sadie Hawkins thing, seems to have been more accepted (despite the beating, he did have a friend-date) and most likely has had a few boy kisses to compare Kurt's to.

It will also most likely explore why Blaine needs so much attention, and is so emotionally needy. Not that I want Kurt to have to constantly prop up Blaine's needs, but if Blaine doesn't acknowledge his own problems, he can't fix them. Kurt shouldn't take Blaine back because he feels sorry for him, but because he feels that Blaine has worked hard to solve his problems, worked hard to court Kurt again. Kurt should also have some comparisons to Blaine himself, and make Blaine realize that next time he cheats, Kurt won't take him back, and Kurt will likely find a companion who wants more than sex from Kurt. Kurt is a romantic, and wants relationships, not hookups. He is also in a state where he can get married, and he will take those vows very seriously.

Don't know how much of my wish we will get to see. I do hope some of it is from Kurt's POV, but I do want to see Kurt FROM Blaine's POV. That Blaine finds him sexy, and gorgeous etc, etc. Again, to shut those people up who won't look and see that Kurt went from 11 year old milk maid to sexy young man in the past few years. Sexy young man, with long, long legs.

[Ranwing]

I think it was done mainly to make Blaine a real person, full of flaws. It was actually brave of the writers to not only take the pedastal but to dash it to bits. I am hoping that this be an exploration of why he is in love with Kurt, to shut up all the people who think that only macho-passing gays are acceptable partners. Time to extoll a few virtues of Kurt, other than being adorable.

This is so long overdue that it's not funny. We've had Kurt torn down in every way possible by classmates, those who are supposed to be his friends and teachers. We've had Sebastian ridiculing every cell in Kurt's body. Yet we never hear Blaine telling Kurt that he's beautiful/handsome/desirable/sexy... any compliment that hint that Blaine's with Kurt because he not only loves Kurt as a person, but that he finds him physically attractive. We keep getting feedback that the world finds Kurt a less desirable option than Blaine, but little to counter it with the fact that Blaine sees Kurt as the sexiest thing going.

Blaine's flaws have been glossed over, to say the very least. We know that he's an attention whore in the worst way. He's got nasty passive-aggressive tendencies and avoids confrontation the way Emma avoids dirt. He will always try to deflect in the event of an argument so that he can avoid being in the wrong over anything. But because he's (per some opinions) good looking and sings well, Blaine gets a pass on a lot of this. He's never had to own up to a lot of his bullshit and how finally has no choice but to deal with his mistakes. He's finally crossed the line that can't be uncrossed.

Kurt, on the other hand, has vowed eternal love to the only boy who was nice and kissed him. His only other boy kiss was a forced one from David. Not a lot of range to compare to, it would be interesting for him to come to his own conclusion that he likes Blaine's kisses best, or whatever, not these are the only kisses I will ever get and I'd better make do. Blaine, with the Sadie Hawkins thing, seems to have been more accepted (despite the beating, he did have a friend-date) and most likely has had a few boy kisses to compare Kurt's to.

If there can be a positive outcome over Kurt taking Blaine back (which to me is more likely to happen than not), he hopefully will do it with a clearer image of who Blaine is as a person, with all his flaws and warts. That he knows that he's with Blaine because he genuinely loves that person (flaws and all) and not just because he was the first good looking gay kid he ran into. Hopefully Kurt will have a chance to socialize (i.e. date) other guys so that he can do a little comparrison shopping.

Rachel... now would be a great time to set your roomie up with any one of a few dozen good looking gay guys at NYADA that have to make up the majority of the male student body.

It will also most likely explore why Blaine needs so much attention, and is so emotionally needy. Not that I want Kurt to have to constantly prop up Blaine's needs, but if Blaine doesn't acknowledge his own problems, he can't fix them. Kurt shouldn't take Blaine back because he feels sorry for him, but because he feels that Blaine has worked hard to solve his problems, worked hard to court Kurt again. Kurt should also have some comparisons to Blaine himself, and make Blaine realize that next time he cheats, Kurt won't take him back, and Kurt will likely find a companion who wants more than sex from Kurt. Kurt is a romantic, and wants relationships, not hookups. He is also in a state where he can get married, and he will take those vows very seriously.

Seriously... Kurt needs to be wooed. Kurt did 95% of the work to get the Klaine relationship off the ground (with no help from Mr. Oblivious) and outside of Karofsky's Valentine's Day gifts, has never actually been courted. Blaine was the one chased down and now if he wants any chance of having Kurt back in his life, he's going to have to put some serious work into it. I have no interest in seeing Blaine grovel (and neither does Kurt, IMO), but he needs to work to prove himself worthy of being with Kurt. He's got to get a handle on his personal issues and then work to win Kurt over again. Flowers are nice, but pretty meaningless. Empty guestures won't work with Kurt. Neither will being serenaded at this stage. It can't be Blaine, the dapper performer that tries to win Kurt back. It has to be Blaine, the screwed up teenager who desperately loves Kurt and will fix himself to fix things between them.

Don't know how much of my wish we will get to see. I do hope some of it is from Kurt's POV, but I do want to see Kurt FROM Blaine's POV. That Blaine finds him sexy, and gorgeous etc, etc. Again, to shut those people up who won't look and see that Kurt went from 11 year old milk maid to sexy young man in the past few years. Sexy young man, with long, long legs.

I would love to see an even short scene where someone asks Blaine if Kurt is really worth all this, and Blaine gets all dreamy eyed and starts waxing poetic about all the things that he loves about Kurt, including his amazing body. That we start getting some insight into how Blaine sees Kurt that apparently no one else in the Glee verse is capable of seeing.

[Jellyrolls]

Glee on Fox posted on facebook asking for everyone's favorite Klaine moment. I said the moment Blaine cheated and Kurt got his freedom.

[M&M]

Glee on Fox posted on facebook asking for everyone's favorite Klaine moment. I said the moment Blaine cheated and Kurt got his freedom.

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