Re: Kurt Hummel Snark & Bark Thread--Part 5

[CloveGlee]

Blaine has replaced Kurt in importance. I am having to face that. He is now the main character of their stories together. Kurt is not. If it were not for the Emmy nominations and other honorifics, Kurt would have been gone when Mercedes was. Between Goodbye and The Breakup I have come to understand this. Kurt is in decline; he will never be a major character again, not the way he was. He may maintain an importance relative to say, Santana. In the meantime, they are trying very, very hard to make Marley and Jake happen. Really, really hard.

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Twitter campaign!

I want a new Twitter campaign! Something like “#Kurt Deserves Better!”

“#Kurt is Beautiful!”

“#Give Kurt a Decent Boyfriend!”

Oh, and while we are at it, “Let Kurt Sing!” (Didn’t we do this once? It worked for a little bit, you know.)

Who is with me? Or have the Blaine stans COMPLETELY taken over Glee?

[fantastica]

i am totally for the twitter campaign. well, it doesn't cost us a penny, does it? so the more the merrier.

[M&M]

Blaine has replaced Kurt in importance. I am having to face that. He is now the main character of their stories together. Kurt is not. If it were not for the Emmy nominations and other honorifics, Kurt would have been gone when Mercedes was. Between Goodbye and The Breakup I have come to understand this. Kurt is in decline; he will never be a major character again, not the way he was. He may maintain an importance relative to say, Santana. In the meantime, they are trying very, very hard to make Marley and Jake happen. Really, really hard.

My most recent blog on Tumblr:


Twitter campaign!

I want a new Twitter campaign! Something like “#Kurt Deserves Better!”

“#Kurt is Beautiful!”

“#Give Kurt a Decent Boyfriend!”

Oh, and while we are at it, “Let Kurt Sing!” (Didn’t we do this once? It worked for a little bit, you know.)

Who is with me? Or have the Blaine stans COMPLETELY taken over Glee?

It's sad, but I started seeing this last year. I very much think they are trying to make Darren an award winner, otherwise why wouldn't we be getting story from both of them. Glee picked their pony, and now they have apparently no room left for Kurt. I almost wish we had seen Burt send him off to the airport and that be it. We could just know that Kurt was successful and loved. It's too depressing knowing that they essentally have shelved him for the next several episodes. I got very mad today seeing the pic from the 2nd part of the Glee talk where Lea/Darren did a duet and everyone else (but Chris) performed a number from Grease. He was also seated in the back row toward the side whil RM was surrounded by Darren and Lea. The fact that he seemingly has no idea what's going on (he said he wanted SJP back and RM said that she is coming back) clearly means that he literally has no storyline. He said the big thing for him right now is Vogue and we know from setpics from fans that they have already packed up at least part of the Vogue set to build another NYADA classroom. If he was going to audition for NYADA, we would have heard about it, but instead he talked about fashion becoming a career in episode 4.

I still can't figure out why they screwed him over so much. Literally, what was the point of bringing him back if they were going to treat him so poorly, especially since Fox went out of their way to say supposedly make sure that he knew he had a home with Glee after graduation gate. Now more than ever do I hope that someone comes out with a "Behind the Glee" book.

By the way, if the show ever thinks Blaine will be inspirational (since they are clearly making him Kurt 2.0), they are sorely mistaken. Chris was an out gay kid playing an out gay kid struggling with high school and bullying and beng the bottom of the food chain. He and his acting are what made Kurt relatable and believable. Darren is defiitely not in Chris's league. Blaine wins everything and cheats on his boyfriend. Real inspirational.

Also, if people wanted to tweet "Why is Kurt getting the shaft?" "Why is Blaine favored for everything?" "Why does Fox hate Chris Colfer?", feel free. It might be good to let them know that we see the blatant favoritism.

[tamara04]

I want to tweet to help Chris out too! I want him to sing on every episode and I want him to get great storylines where Kurt is happy and successful. Who do we tweet to exactly?

[fantastica]

i think that graduate gate screwed both chris and cory up.

[M&M]

i think that graduate gate screwed both chris and cory up.

I don't think Cory has really fared poorly though. He started singing again, quite a bit actually. He got a lot of storyline and now

Spoiler:

[sahhar]

Blaine has replaced Kurt in importance. I am having to face that. He is now the main character of their stories together. Kurt is not. If it were not for the Emmy nominations and other honorifics, Kurt would have been gone when Mercedes was. Between Goodbye and The Breakup I have come to understand this. Kurt is in decline; he will never be a major character again, not the way he was. He may maintain an importance relative to say, Santana. In the meantime, they are trying very, very hard to make Marley and Jake happen. Really, really hard.

My most recent blog on Tumblr:


Twitter campaign!

I want a new Twitter campaign! Something like “#Kurt Deserves Better!”

“#Kurt is Beautiful!”

“#Give Kurt a Decent Boyfriend!”

Oh, and while we are at it, “Let Kurt Sing!” (Didn’t we do this once? It worked for a little bit, you know.)

Who is with me? Or have the Blaine stans COMPLETELY taken over Glee?

It's sad, but I started seeing this last year. I very much think they are trying to make Darren an award winner, otherwise why wouldn't we be getting story from both of them. Glee picked their pony, and now they have apparently no room left for Kurt. I almost wish we had seen Burt send him off to the airport and that be it. We could just know that Kurt was successful and loved. It's too depressing knowing that they essentally have shelved him for the next several episodes. I got very mad today seeing the pic from the 2nd part of the Glee talk where Lea/Darren did a duet and everyone else (but Chris) performed a number from Grease. He was also seated in the back row toward the side whil RM was surrounded by Darren and Lea. The fact that he seemingly has no idea what's going on (he said he wanted SJP back and RM said that she is coming back) clearly means that he literally has no storyline. He said the big thing for him right now is Vogue and we know from setpics from fans that they have already packed up at least part of the Vogue set to build another NYADA classroom. If he was going to audition for NYADA, we would have heard about it, but instead he talked about fashion becoming a career in episode 4.

I still can't figure out why they screwed him over so much. Literally, what was the point of bringing him back if they were going to treat him so poorly, especially since Fox went out of their way to say supposedly make sure that he knew he had a home with Glee after graduation gate. Now more than ever do I hope that someone comes out with a "Behind the Glee" book.

By the way, if the show ever thinks Blaine will be inspirational (since they are clearly making him Kurt 2.0), they are sorely mistaken. Chris was an out gay kid playing an out gay kid struggling with high school and bullying and beng the bottom of the food chain. He and his acting are what made Kurt relatable and believable. Darren is defiitely not in Chris's league. Blaine wins everything and cheats on his boyfriend. Real inspirational.

Also, if people wanted to tweet "Why is Kurt getting the shaft?" "Why is Blaine favored for everything?" "Why does Fox hate Chris Colfer?", feel free. It might be good to let them know that we see the blatant favoritism.

Count me in on this.

[ColferInspired]

Count me in as well.

I hate what they are doing to Chris. It's like how he was treated in school and it is killing me.

[Divalicious]

I don't know if it is Kurt/Chris getting the shaft, or the realization that to continue on this relationship of Klaine, that Blaine would have to become a real little boy, instead of the wooden one he has been. Sure, he spouts a lot of songs, but they don't mean anything, usually it is just a performance, and then he goes back to making puppy eyes and being perfect.

Chris is never going to sing as much because the people in charge believe that his voice is not accepted by the general audience. This may be true, I don't agree with it, but his voice is unique, and most unique things you don't just love, you grow to love. Sure, some, like us, may have fallen in love with Kurt the whole package from the get go, but that is because we have open minds, and want new experiences, not more of the same. We're cool like that. There is a lot of closed minded people, and they started off giving a lot of different songs and styles to introduce the audience to things they have missed. Once things become popular, and begin to make money, people notice and want their piece of the pie. They start wanting to focus on the biggest movers (in this case, movers of songs) to get the biggest pay off. In the end, this is often the reason shows go under, because they are forced to become the opposite of what made them successful. So the closed minded people stay in their comfort zones, and those ready for new experiences get frustrated and move on.

Because this is all about money I do not believe they have lost interest in Kurt or Chris. He still gets scads of recognition from critics, he wrote a best selling book, and has a follow up pending, he has a movie coming out which shows his range. He is a walking advertisement for the underdog making it good. People in Hollywood like him, look at the talent he attracts to work with him. It isn't lack of interest, I really think it is lack of time. They know Chris' fan base for the most part are people who are going to stick with him, not teenyboppers who move on to the next cute thing. We will watch even if he is sitting eating a sandwich, and he will make that sandwich eating interesting. So they give him focus, the audience claps, he moves into the background for a bit, and we crave his presence. They tell stories with other people, and bring Kurt into it to give it substance, just like they do with Finn. Finn might be a bit douchey at times, but I really felt his return, he brings something to the room he is in, just like Kurt. They make it interesting, these are good actors.

Blaine they have to keep front and center, his voice is pleasant, but not amazing, I thought Cory's voice was better in the Breakup songs. They give him big performances because that is what he does well, he sells the scene, he has to cover his limited vocal range. That is okay, I am not dissing, I sound like a cat that had it's tail stepped on when I sing. But the audience that lusts after him have a lot of young people with limited attention spans and a lot of competition for their interest. They have to remain entertained so they don't wander off.

While they deal with the realities of a fickle audience, the writers know who their acting heavy hitters are, they know their good, and their limited. When they give their limited actors things in their comfort zone, they do well, you can believe the characters. The good actors get a little more range, but they cover a lot of that up with over-singing. Cory is lucky that he has a normal range male voice, that has improved nicely, to complement his acting, so they give him more songs. Chris is unlucky that he has an unusual range, but occasionally they are allowed to give him a song totally in his skill set that just is luscious and beautiful, to complement his equally lovely acting.

Kurt will continue to get the occasional big moment, not as many as we would like, but they will be there. NYADA audition for sure, what else I don't know. Others will get moments thrown at them like rice at a wedding, but for me, I am tired of those moments, I FF through the songs this season something I've never did before. There will be the same wailing of notes, the same expressions, the same lack of subtlety. Not interested. Some still love these people, I know if Kurt got Rachel amount of time I could enjoy it very much, because I am not pretty much avoiding the rest of fandom. But I don't see Rachel as an underdog, and the more they push it, the more I don't want to see it. I don't believe it. I enjoy the Hummelberry, but I don't care whom she sleeps with, or parts she gets, because I know that even if she doesn't get one thing, there is something even bigger and better just around the corner for her. Why should I root, or worry about this character? I don't.

Same with Blaine, although his sudden humanity (stupidity) gives me hopes that his charmed existence is being limited. Sure, they obviously give him big scenes for his songs, but I am hoping that he takes all of that and finally tells the Glee audience who think that Kurt is a saint, or lucky to have Blaine, that it is Blaine who is lucky. That Kurt doesn't want him to be this dapper bit of perfection, that when he goofs off, Kurt may roll his eyes, but he loves him. Blaine found someone who looks beyond the cute hobbit looks and loved him for his faults, including persistent blindness when it came to how Kurt felt about him. That someone also is gorgeous, smart, talented, can cook, and has rock solid family ties that Blaine gets to be a part of when he shares Kurt's life. Yes, Finn, Burt and Carole come with Kurt. People who have known loss, and value family. Blaine seems alone a lot, and Kurt brings all of this to the relationship. If the Blaine fans would get past Darren's eye lash porn they would realize that Blaine does not bring that much to Kurt's life other than the potential for sex and duets. Unless you think belonging to a fight club, or being able to be a bro makes you a viable life partner. Kurt is a catch, and a huge one. I want that seen, and I want to mentally rub it in the faces to all the people who persistently put Kurt down.

[ColferInspired]

Hey, guys I have an idea why don't we treat some of the media like AfterElton, Keck and others and get the media involved?

I'm sure if the media hears how fans feel it might stir up things.

[sheny]

Blaine will never replace Kurt no matter how much screen time he gets. There are a lot of Blaine fans mad at him for what he did to Kurt. Of course there are some delusional ones but from what I saw most of the Kleine fandom is on Kurt's side. He will always be the inspirational one.

[ColferInspired]

Blaine will never replace Kurt no matter how much screen time he gets. There are a lot of Blaine fans mad at him for what he did to Kurt. Of course there are some delusional ones but from what I saw most of the Kleine fandom is on Kurt's side. He will always be the inspirational one.

If they just focus on Blaine's pov then he will get more hate and just look pathetic. As of now from what I am seeing Blaine has become the most hated character on the show. Just seeing him suffer will just make them happier, so if RIB want fans to pity him, then sorry that is not going to happen.

[Glorfindel]

Blaine will never replace Kurt no matter how much screen time he gets. There are a lot of Blaine fans mad at him for what he did to Kurt. Of course there are some delusional ones but from what I saw most of the Kleine fandom is on Kurt's side. He will always be the inspirational one.

If they just focus on Blaine's pov then he will get more hate and just look pathetic. As of now from what I am seeing Blaine has become the most hated character on the show. Just seeing him suffer will just make them happier, so if RIB want fans to pity him, then sorry that is not going to happen.

This might indeed backfire immensely.

If RIB will focus on Blaine, showing him wallowing in selfpity and other characters being sympathetic to him, excusing his behavior and emphasizing the "poor Blaine" feeling we're supposed to get for him..... that might turn the sympathy from the viewers against him.

I think RIB miscalculated how angry fans are at Blaine for this, and yes, there are a lot of Klainers (not the more vocal, stupid excusing Blaine ones) who are very turned off by Blaine right now. They will not forgive him easily. A lot of Klainers are jumping ship now, in favor of Kurt.
Blaine will need to grovel and blame himself 100% for what he did to Kurt to win these viewers over again, not get pity and sympathy because he's a depressed lonely whiner.

If they make Blaine the martyr here (oh, the irony) combined with Blaine singing too many damn songs, it might really backfire right into RIB/Fox's faces.
I'll be here for that.

[Delight]

Because this is all about money I do not believe they have lost interest in Kurt or Chris. He still gets scads of recognition from critics, he wrote a best selling book, and has a follow up pending, he has a movie coming out which shows his range. He is a walking advertisement for the underdog making it good.

I also believe that Glee hasn't completely sidelined Kurt yet. Aside from Rachel, he's the only other character that got his own guest-star/mentor on the show. His Vogue storyline would not have as much focus as Rachel's NYADA one, unfortunately; but it's something at least. You do not bring in a whole new group of actors and a whole new set and props for a character that means nothing on the show.

It's just that I'm starting to feel that this show called Glee is servicing too many characters that don't deserve the screen time. It's hard to enjoy a show when so much of the songs and screentime go to characters you just don't care about. I would like it if the characters get their individual spin-offs and each show would sink or swim purely on the merits of each actor/actress. It's an impossible wish, I know, but I'm just tired of seeing the misuse of the cast on Glee. The misuse of Kurt/Chris, especially.

[Divalicious]

I do think Glee is moving towards less focused characters. I think next year we will have Kurt, Blaine, Rachel, Finn and Santana in NY. I think ND will focus on Jake, Marley and possibly Ryder. The remaining people will be foils for these characters, kind of like how Tina has always been, I see that already with Joe. He's there, but doesn't get a lot of focus. He'll get some, and perhaps once a year get an episode where he has a story, but look at Tina, they've rarely done anything with her. I think once a character becomes a senior, they will get a focused story, and then disappear when they graduate. I think the people in NY are going to be on-going, outside of the teachers.

I fully expect RIB to work hard to save Blaine. Our problem is our view is from fandom, whereas I think the casual viewer, i.e. most of the audience, isn't as invested. I think they fully expect to see a reunion between Kurt and Blaine, and accept this as a bump in the road. We expect to see a major storyline where Blaine wins Kurt's affections back, groveling all the way. I don't think we will get that. We will get angsty moments when Kurt goes back to visit ND, Kurt still loves him, I feel, but doesn't trust him, Blaine has already admitted that Kurt is the one he wants to spend his life with. There will be a Christmas duet with them apart, I am sure, and then at Emma and Will's wedding and they are in the same place they will likely reconcile. I kind of think that if Chase is gay, that he and Kurt will kiss, it will be nice, but Kurt will realize he isn't over Blaine. This will be the beginning of Kurt not exactly resisting any conversations with Blaine.

Not optimal, to be sure, but if Blaine grovels, it will accentuate his blame, and I don't think they want to go there. Blaine's cheating is a symptom of his insecurities, and it will be by exploring why he is so insecure that the audience will begin to forgive Blaine. There had better be a talk between the two , with Blaine doing the adult thing, explaining his actions without excusing himself or blaming Kurt, but I'm not holding my breath. They sidelined Kurt a lot in season 3 because of fallout from St. Kurt in season 2, I think in an effort to save the character from rabid viewers. They won't sideline Blaine, because he can't sing over there, but they will limit discussions of his bad behavior. His sorrowful puppydog eyes at Kurt's inattention will earn him a lot of awww's and poor guys from the GA. Especially if Kurt does get to at least make out with another guy. Then it will be all, well Blaine has paid enough, he's been sad, and Kurt is making out with other guys, and look at why he was so insecure (I foresee bringing in Pa Anderson) give the guy a break. Then a big romantic gesture later, and they are together again.

I just hope that this whole storyline shows a strong and independent Kurt, making his own successes without stalking, and a stronger, and finally interesting Blaine, who is a good partner for Kurt.

[Jellyrolls]

Because this is all about money I do not believe they have lost interest in Kurt or Chris. He still gets scads of recognition from critics, he wrote a best selling book, and has a follow up pending, he has a movie coming out which shows his range. He is a walking advertisement for the underdog making it good.

I also believe that Glee hasn't completely sidelined Kurt yet. Aside from Rachel, he's the only other character that got his own guest-star/mentor on the show. His Vogue storyline would not have as much focus as Rachel's NYADA one, unfortunately; but it's something at least. You do not bring in a whole new group of actors and a whole new set and props for a character that means nothing on the show.

Glee won't sideline Kurt completely anytime soon. Chris just garners too much interest in Hollywood--more critical acclaim, more award nominations (and not just the silly popularity ones like the teen choice awards), etc. I think he has appeared on more of the big talk shows than anyone else in the cast--and even when he makes appearances for his books and hopefully SBL, it's still a good thing for Glee since they talk about the show. So, there is still a lot of interest in Chris out there.

[brisallie]

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If they just focus on Blaine's pov then he will get more hate and just look pathetic. As of now from what I am seeing Blaine has become the most hated character on the show. Just seeing him suffer will just make them happier, so if RIB want fans to pity him, then sorry that is not going to happen.

Once Blaine it wasn't named one of those characters that provoke hate/love on people? Well that's what happening right now. The fandom is started to get tired of him, I just came from another forum and what I've read the most is they don't hear more songs from the short boy. And they're sure he's singing a lot because RM has a fixation with him, well actually that's not a secret.

The writers haven't realized what the overexposure of this character is causing?

@Sheny, I love your avatar

[fantastica]

they figure that dc sells the most songs thanks to his crazy stans (i heard someone said she bought 20 copies of hte same song on itune ), they will insert him in every song they possibly can.

[brisallie]

^
She what? Ok why buy 20 copies of a single? Is she collecting them?

I saw this on tumblr and it represents what some people want to do to blaine.

[sahhar]

they figure that dc sells the most songs thanks to his crazy stans (i heard someone said she bought 20 copies of hte same song on itune ), they will insert him in every song they possibly can.

[fantastica]

she did this to boost his song sales. these fans must be super rich. remember one woman who attended DC's bway show 9 times? they have no life.

[Divalicious]

A Broadway show 9 times?? She has no money left either.

[M&M]

Th thing is, his songs aren't selling nearly as well as they used to. In fact, the songs that sold the least this week were Teenage Dream and Barely Breathing. The Scientist was first followed by GYHAB.

[fantastica]

^ interestingly last week's song sales order followed my own preferences too.

[fantastica]

the christmas songs were recorded long before, like in Auguest. I remember some tweets about it.

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