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Post  Jellyrolls on 8/10/2013, 4:40 pm

Geez if that is the scenerio, I hope we get to see Blainey boy in his super hero underoos {sarcasm}

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Post  AnneNeville on 8/10/2013, 4:50 pm

Jellyrolls wrote:Geez if that is the scenerio, I hope we get to see Blainey boy in his super hero underoos {sarcasm}
I'd prefer either of the above scenarios, but since Glee is so lazy in terms of storytelling, I think the most obvious answer is the most likely, UNLESS Blaine is taking over a Finn-storyline.

The budget-cut idea would only work for saving money for the state (and for Glee) if the number of choir members was capped rather than the minimum being lowered. If it were just the minimum being lowered, there would be no reason for Sugar and Joe to depart. And I can't see any logical reason for the state to cap Glee Club size, since it's made clear that New Directions has had to fund itself all along . . .

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Post  fantastica on 8/10/2013, 5:15 pm

i hope none of us will watch this blee show live.

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Post  ChrisColferFan1 on 8/10/2013, 5:17 pm

fantastica wrote:i hope none of us will watch this blee show live.

I don't plan on watching it live.

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Post  AnneNeville on 8/10/2013, 5:33 pm

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fantastica wrote:i hope none of us will watch this blee show live.
I don't plan on watching it live.
Me neither, though I never have watched it live, not having cable.

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Post  fantastica on 8/10/2013, 5:53 pm

fox is on broadcast tv. you don't need cable dear. rabbit ears will be enough. i don't have cable either, not since they turned Discover/Learning Channel/History channel into horrible cheapo reality tv crap-fest channels. History channel is now the "redneck" channel. i remember Chris used to watch it and mention it on his twitter descriptions. now it has nothing to do w/ history. what a shame! mass tv is all about brainless entertainment that's not even entertaining. same fate w/ glee. now it's formally the blee show and i can't even stomach the thought of it.

poor cory's death also killed puck's chance of having any meaningful storyline. chord will be happier, as his character will likely do anything w/ blaine except publiclly licking his schtick.

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Post  AnneNeville on 8/10/2013, 6:08 pm

fantastica wrote:fox is on broadcast tv. you don't need cable dear. rabbit ears will be enough. i don't have cable either, not since they turned Discover/Learning Channel/History channel into horrible cheapo reality tv crap-fest channels. History channel is now the "redneck" channel. i remember Chris used to watch it and mention it on his twitter descriptions. now it has nothing to do w/ history. what a shame! mass tv is all about brainless entertainment that's not even entertaining. same fate w/ glee. now it's formally the blee show and i can't even stomach the thought of it.

poor cory's death also killed puck's chance of having any meaningful storyline. chord will be happier, as his character will likely do anything w/ blaine except publiclly licking his schtick.
We don't have rabbit ears, and all the TV we watch is run through our laptop/ethernet right into our television. :-)

As for Puck, I really don't care for his character or for Mark Salling, so I don't mind seeing less of him. I'll miss his voice, though.

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Post  fantastica on 8/10/2013, 6:15 pm

i don't care for him either, but i prefer puck to blah. watching the later (not watching, but just think about him) will make my blood boil.

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Post  tanita_mors on 8/10/2013, 8:58 pm

i hope that those budget cuts storyline is just speculation, otherwise, WHO THE FUCK CARES !!!! i mean seriously. is there anyone who can take this show seriously anymore or any of their causes/psa for that matter. that is what happens when you make fun of a topic and then pretend that you suddenly care and take it seriously when it's convenient.

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Post  AnneNeville on 8/10/2013, 9:42 pm

tanita_mors wrote:i hope that those budget cuts storyline is just speculation, otherwise, WHO THE FUCK CARES !!!! i mean seriously. is there anyone who can take this show seriously anymore or any of their causes/psa for that matter. that is what happens when you make fun of a topic and then pretend that you suddenly care and take it seriously when it's convenient.
It's just speculation.

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Post  ColferInspired on 8/10/2013, 10:16 pm

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fountain wrote: Glee is killing the guy's career before it's even started.
We were talking about how Glee has damaged Lea's career outside of Glee. That there was such a heavy handed campaign to get her the role of Fanny Brice for a planned revival that it backfired on her badly and her reputation in theater circles is pretty toxic. The same seems to be happening with Darren - right now he's getting a huge amount of exposure, but the backlash is well underway because he doesn't have the real talent to back up all this exposure. Once he no longer can be headlined as "Darren Criss from Glee" and has to stand on his own, his profile is likely to plummet dramatically.
Yes. That's true. I think Lea's reputation in NYC is worse, though, and earned over many years. Darren is still new to the scene, so I doubt that the backlash is going to be nearly as bad for him. He may be annoying, but he hasn't got over 15 years of very bad reputation to overcome. His behavior at the stagedoor for H2$ may have been inconsiderate, but I don't have the impression that there is anywhere near the violent dislike that Lea has. Just . . . that he's stunt casting. As far as I heard, he did work hard as Finch. I think he'll have an easier time crossing back into theatre, if his voice can hold up to it.

Chris will probably actually have a harder time than Darren in terms of getting a Broadway show, because there are fewer roles that he can easily be slotted into.

Ranwing wrote:Chris has been smart in how he's promoted himself and his outside projects in trying to maintain a wall of separation between his work on Glee and what he does outside of it. Cory did the same thing when he was promoting his outside films. He wants his works to stand alone and not be seen strictly through the prism of what he does on Glee. And in all honesty, given how he's been sidelined on Glee this past season, it's a lot easier for him to do so. But because Darren is getting so much focus right now both on Glee and outside of Glee, there is no separation. And once his time on Glee is over, the reasons for having him hosting things like the TCAs is going to be over as well.
Yes, Chris has been very smart about how he's handling things. I really would like to see what he does in a theatre role. I'd like to see how his charisma translates onto the stage.
Actually Chris said in one of his recent interviews he is approached all the time to do Broadway roles, but he says he doesn't have the time. So, he is in demand. neutre
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Post  fantastica on 8/10/2013, 10:16 pm

did anybody care about ANY storylines at all these days? budget cuts or paper cuts. just an excuse to get what's-his-name sing more songs.

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Post  AnneNeville on 8/10/2013, 10:23 pm

ColferInspired wrote:
AnneNeville wrote:
Ranwing wrote:
fountain wrote: Glee is killing the guy's career before it's even started.
We were talking about how Glee has damaged Lea's career outside of Glee. That there was such a heavy handed campaign to get her the role of Fanny Brice for a planned revival that it backfired on her badly and her reputation in theater circles is pretty toxic. The same seems to be happening with Darren - right now he's getting a huge amount of exposure, but the backlash is well underway because he doesn't have the real talent to back up all this exposure. Once he no longer can be headlined as "Darren Criss from Glee" and has to stand on his own, his profile is likely to plummet dramatically.
Yes. That's true. I think Lea's reputation in NYC is worse, though, and earned over many years. Darren is still new to the scene, so I doubt that the backlash is going to be nearly as bad for him. He may be annoying, but he hasn't got over 15 years of very bad reputation to overcome. His behavior at the stagedoor for H2$ may have been inconsiderate, but I don't have the impression that there is anywhere near the violent dislike that Lea has. Just . . . that he's stunt casting. As far as I heard, he did work hard as Finch. I think he'll have an easier time crossing back into theatre, if his voice can hold up to it.

Chris will probably actually have a harder time than Darren in terms of getting a Broadway show, because there are fewer roles that he can easily be slotted into.

Ranwing wrote:Chris has been smart in how he's promoted himself and his outside projects in trying to maintain a wall of separation between his work on Glee and what he does outside of it. Cory did the same thing when he was promoting his outside films. He wants his works to stand alone and not be seen strictly through the prism of what he does on Glee. And in all honesty, given how he's been sidelined on Glee this past season, it's a lot easier for him to do so. But because Darren is getting so much focus right now both on Glee and outside of Glee, there is no separation. And once his time on Glee is over, the reasons for having him hosting things like the TCAs is going to be over as well.
Yes, Chris has been very smart about how he's handling things. I really would like to see what he does in a theatre role. I'd like to see how his charisma translates onto the stage.
Actually Chris said in one of his recent interviews he is approached all the time to do Broadway roles, but he says he doesn't have the time. So, he is in demand. neutre
I am so glad to hear that! I was worried that people wouldn't know what to do with his voice and type!

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Post  Ranwing on 8/10/2013, 10:50 pm

I think that it would be a mistake to think that just because his character had a hard time being taken seriously as a performer that the same is going for Chris. His voice might be specialized, but there are literally dozens of parts that I can quickly think of that he would be suitable for now, and even more if we look forward ten of so years as he matures. Right now I can easily see him play Gabe from Next to Normal or the lead in Pippin. If American Idiot was still running, he could have been a fantastic St. Jimmy, or Sir Robin in Spamalot. In a couple of years I can see him as the MC in Cabaret or Billy Flynn in Chicago. They're doing a revival of Les Miz and I would happily see him as either Marius or one of the Friends of the ABC. And if we look past just musical theater, the roles for him are nearly limitless.

It is gratifying that we are not the only ones who see value in his ability or that he has enormous potential outside of Glee and want to utilize him. Whatever part on Broadway he takes once his commitment to Glee is done with, I will happily pay to see him in.
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Post  Jellyrolls on 8/10/2013, 10:51 pm

I would think that if Chris was going to do Broadway, he would make sure he had time for a 6-12 month run. He is such a perfectionist, he wouldn't do a limited run--he'd want to make it great, and do it for a while.

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Post  ColferInspired on 8/10/2013, 11:10 pm

Jellyrolls wrote:I would think that if Chris was going to do Broadway, he would make sure he had time for a 6-12 month run.  He is such a perfectionist, he wouldn't do a limited run--he'd want to make it great, and do it for a while.
Which I wouldn't be able to see live. :( 

But I know some dedicated Chris fan will record the entire show and have it in HQ on Youtube hours later. Smile
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Post  Divalicious on 8/11/2013, 6:36 am

I could totally see Chris wanting to do a long term role, so he could perfect it. The benefit would be time to finagle and figure out a way to go and see the play. As much as I don't like travel, I would have to make it happen, I think. While I truly believe Chris can have the career he wants, because he has as much drive as he has talent, I see too many good actors seem to disappear. I think the Glee fandom does weigh on Chris, and he might seek more behind the scenes action because of that. So I have to take the opportunities I have to see him very seriously. The best scenario would be another television role, to see Chris be actually able to take a character from A to Z without the constraints of an insane fandom and the limitations of writers that seem to push one single message.

It never surprises me that Glee went from glorifying the wonders of being an underdog and loving yourself, to what it is now, what is acceptable and fit in no matter what. Glee has bowed to peer pressure.

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Post  MoviesAreLife on 8/11/2013, 2:00 pm

AnneNeville wrote:
MoviesAreLife wrote:
AnneNeville wrote:
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AnneNeville wrote:I think that Glee makes a big mistake by going so meta. Rather than being meta on the show's flaws, they should fix them, and rather than go meta on the actors' lives, they should be creative. To do otherwise seems really snarky. I think--if I were in Glee (if I were Chris)--I would try to never, ever mention anything personal. Ever. Around RIB or others!
I actually like it when they go meta sometimes. Kurt's defying gravity  moment would never have happened otherwise. Also, if Kurt ever decided to write his own roles and to become a one man studio and a mogul, I would not complain. Wink
Those are the good options! But what if they decided to mine something BAD? And it seems like they do that more often than picking something positive . . .
I see. You mean, make fun of an actor's flaws through their characters? Like how they bashed Jenna as not being a talented actress through Tina?

I think this Rachel-Lea-Barbra stuff is kind of sweet through. I like the Jewish, "ugly" girl rises to stardom and success vibe.
I absolutely agree. In-Universe it is great and makes sense! I totally buy Rachel Barbra Berry. It only became problematic when so many people watching the simultaneous Funny Girl casting drama (which went on for a LONG time) connected the two, and after that I (personally) think that choosing Funny Girl might not have been a very good idea. There are other Barbra roles, after all. It could have just as well been the first ever Broadway production of Yentl.
Of course! But isn't Funny Girl like her signature role? Forgive me, I know nothing of Barbra, so....

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Post  MoviesAreLife on 8/11/2013, 2:02 pm

Buenos wrote:There is no way Lea Michele could have played Fanny on Broadway and have a regular role on Glee.  Ditto when people who were saying she was passed over as Eponine in the move version of "Les Miz".

She just can't commit  to long projects while she still is on Glee.
Samantha Barks was amazing in that role! Lea has played it before also, at the Hollywood Bowl.

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Post  MoviesAreLife on 8/11/2013, 2:05 pm

arina wrote:I loved Defyig gravity moment but hated Burt't advice to Kurt about writing his own roles. We have never seen on the show anything that would tell us Kurt is interested in writing or that he is good at it, it was too much of actor's bleed for me. And as much I want Kurt to suceede, I want for him his own path, not Chris'.
Oh, I adored it. Especially for someone who has so much against him in terms of being accepted into "regular" roles...why not take his career by the horns like Chris did and make his own opportunities? I find it inspiring. Also, he did write the musical "Pip, Pip...Hooray!" during the S2-S3 summer break, we assume.

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Post  MoviesAreLife on 8/11/2013, 2:18 pm

Lottie2303 wrote:Oh my, that entire campaign of Lea is embarrassing to follow. Everyone on here knows I don't like her, but I am always shocked when I get even more proof why I am not a fan.

Glee tries to use its platform to promote Lea. That is for sure. Funnily, even on Glee it backfired because her Funny Girl storyline generally received a lot of negative feedback. Lea is talented, no question asked, but such attempts just leave a bad light. I can only highlight once again how disliked she is outside of the Glee fandom. I really don't foresee the brightest movie career. I am not just saying it out of spite, but just as observation.

Heather (oh God, I am such a bitch today because I argue about against everything you say), Rachel is a pretty girl with zero confidence (still a major difference to girls who really are not attractive/beautiful) with rich parents. Her story is so not from rags to fame. Kurt, just as Chris, represents that idea so much more.  
I do not hate Lea for campaigning for a Broadway role she really wanted, even if the whole thing came across as a bit heavy handed. She is an actress with a job to do and needs work. That would be like me hating Naya for shamelessly campaigning for an Emmy nomination for season three, or hating Darren for doing the same thing this year...although I do side-eye both of them, mostly Naya...I just dislike Naya and everything she stands for. But I am questioning the timing...why is Lea going after a Broadway role (Fanny) or a movie role (Eponine) when she is already the lead in one of the most popular, successful, and critically acclaimed (at the time) TV shows there is? Does she really expect to do both at the same time? It is possible? I do not see her as being a movie star either....(New Years' Eve, REALLY????) But she is a Broadway baby. I see her as becoming the next Idina Menzel, who everyone also hated for diva rumors. She was still successful, however.

I also disagree about Rachel. I see her as a painfully fragile, unconfident young woman. A socially awkward, hated young woman who is seen as "ugly" or at least "plain" by society at large. All she has is her talent, she feels, and that is why she clings to it so fiercely. That bravado she has is just a mask...it's all fake. In reality, she does not feel too good about herself which is why she is overcompensating with her ego...it's massive, but it's all for show and in reality very, very fragile. Underneath it all, she really means well, too. She's a good person underneath that selfishness....and it just makes me feel really sorry for her, actually. She is not rich, either...no more so than Kurt is. The only rich kids on the show are Quinn, Blaine and Sugar. Is she spoiled and coddled? Yes. She is sheltered.

Kurt represents the underdog, rags to riches concept so much more, I agree. But Rachel is an underdog to me, too. She was bullied as well, but not as badly as Kurt. Kurt and Rachel are both the heart and soul of the show for me, but especially Kurt. Especially Kurt.

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Post  MoviesAreLife on 8/11/2013, 2:22 pm

Ranwing wrote:She cries and feels sorry for herself over the smallest and most petty matters (like losing a singing contest against her friend who she considers to be a great talent herself) so everyone has to reassure her that she is indeed very, very special. It gets not only tiresome after awhile, but boring as well.
I actually thought her funk over Midnight Madness was less about losing to Kurt than it was about afraid to lose him as a friend because of her attitude. She was ashamed of her diva behavior, and it took losing the contest (that reality bitchslap) for her to see how badly she was behaving.

I do want more legit competition for Rachel also. This is why I wanted Lindsay on the show so badly. To see these two go head to head would have been delicious.

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Post  MoviesAreLife on 8/11/2013, 2:41 pm

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 5x01 Song Spoiler #4

All You Need Is Love - Blaine Anderson (with New Directions, The Warblers, Vocal Adrenaline and Deaf Choir)
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On a more positive note (I hope): it seems that at the shooting of the carnival scene Chris and Darren were not seen, only noobs, Kevin and Chord.
I am just as disgusted as you all about "Blee". Are we up to four songs for Blaine now in the first episode alone? Unfortunately, curiosity is high because of Cory's death, so I assume that the viewer turnout will be high in the S5 premiere...unless there is some internet campaign for all non-Blaine fans to boycott this episode and to just tune into 5x3 instead?

On a technical note, "All You Need Is Love" is going to sound beautiful with all of those choirs singing together like that! wub Perhaps I can get a version on YT with Blaine's voice edited out?

There is no way that Kurt will say yes, you guys. He was firm about not wanting anything to do with Blaine in 4x22, so why would he suddenly change his mind in 5x1? He won't, I'm sure of it. All of the theatrical tricks and pressure in the world will not blind Kurt to the emotional child Blaine really is, in fact, it will open his eyes all the more. I hope, if this song is a proposal song, that Kurt says no and even gets angry at Blaine for putting him on the spot like that. I hope he embarrasses him and rejects him in front of everyone. Blaine deserves to have his pride hurt and his ego shattered. Silly little boy.

I almost feel sorry for the Blarren stans, though. The wave of hate aimed at them on the internet both makes me laugh and makes me cringe. It's not their fault RIB have this weird fixation on their favorite, right? Their favorite is getting shoved down everyone's throats, and makes people hate him all the more. He is being destroyed by RIB in front of their eyes, and they are helpless to stop it. It's funny and sad at the same time.

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Post  MoviesAreLife on 8/11/2013, 2:44 pm

ColferInspired wrote:Did you see on tumblr in some article that Glee is going to be made into a stage show?
Cool! Smile 

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Post  MoviesAreLife on 8/11/2013, 9:50 pm

Jellyrolls wrote:I would think that if Chris was going to do Broadway, he would make sure he had time for a 6-12 month run.  He is such a perfectionist, he wouldn't do a limited run--he'd want to make it great, and do it for a while.
Chris needs to be on Broadway! Whether it's a play or a musical, this needs to happen! Two more years, you guys.

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