Re: Glee season 6 discussion and spoiler thread--Part 2

[Glorfindel]

Query:

In the ET Sneak Peek , where Sue reveals her very creepy shrine to Klaine, how did she get the photo that acts as the primary focus of that shrine.

Was she in Pavorotti's coffin?

Lol, they are so dumb.

Also: isn't it creepy how a 50+ year old woman puts a kissy-hand on a picture of 2 gay high school boys kissing?
Oh wait, she's just the typical Klainer, lol.

Since the show is fond of recycling storylines over and over, this is a possibility. That, or maybe just some far shots of Rachel and Kurt applauding in the audience/background?

They ask for several Rachel and Kurt types though, not just one photodouble for each one of them.
Yup, they've recycled so much already in season 6, why not this one as well. Otoh.....if it brings back Harmony I'd be fine with that.

[Jellyrolls]

Sue being a Klainer is creepier than the whole Terry Schuester fake pregnancy storyline. Sue will probably offer to be a surrogate for them.

[ChrisColferFan1]

Sue being a Klainer is creepier than the whole Terry Schuester fake pregnancy storyline.  Sue will probably offer to be a surrogate for them.

Agree 100%. I would not be surprise at all if RIB got the idea from a fan fic.

[M&M]

With the spoilers for the Bar Mitzvah and Rachel performing with ND backup, I wonder if it really an excuse for Rachel to "audition for someone" like sh  did at Nationals. Yuck. Also, seems a bit weird that Kurt isn't there. 

More than anything, I am annoyed with the number of NND songs we have had. I want to hear from the originals please.

[Glorfindel]

With the spoilers for the Bar Mitzvah and Rachel performing with ND backup, I wonder if it really an excuse for Rachel to "audition for someone" like sh  did at Nationals. Yuck. Also, seems a bit weird that Kurt isn't there.

He's probably playing house with hubby Blaine. Twuu Luvvv.

More than anything, I am annoyed with the number of NND songs we have had. I want to hear from the originals please.

Yup, and I also don't want storylines for Beiste, Becky, Vocal Adrenaline, the Warblers, and certainly not some random Bar Mitzwah kid.

[Glorfindel]

GLEE: The boys perform in the “What The World Needs Now” episode of GLEE airing Friday, Feb. 6 (9:00-10:00 PM ET/PT) on FOX. 2014 Fox Broadcasting Co. CR: Tyler Golden/FOX [UHQ]

I don't even know what to say about this.

[dimpledchris]

Oh look, Artie's back again (are some of the other alums too? Couldn't see who's there in the other hugging pic). I love the original cast, I really do (and I wish the focus would've been on them, sorry new kids). I just wish the writers would explain how they're able to go back and forth every time. It's been one of the things bugging me since S4 when Rachel/Kurt/Santana (and pretty much all of the graduates) kept coming back to Ohio at the drop of a hat. (No, Cassie July, your frequent flyer miles don't cut it. They had jobs and school, and there's only so many days in a week).

Brittany's "I can bend time and space" quip last episode wasn't cute for me. It was sloppy writing. These writers like to throw logic out of the window by giving the characters the most ridiculous lines.

On another note, I really like Noah Guthrie's (Roderick) voice. Sad he wasn't introduced earlier.

[Ranwing]

Most of the guys look so awkward in their tuxes. And it's hard to rock a top hat and be taken seriously.

Someone on tumblr did us a favor and cropped the picture to the important part.

[ColferInspired]

austin_brue After years of being told that I look like @hrhchriscolfer , I finally met him and realized we actually don’t look that much alike when you put us side by side!

[Glorfindel]

6x07 - "Transitioning" (13-Feb-2015)

While Will is euphoric over his new job coaching Vocal Adrenaline and all the perks that come with it, he still confesses to missing the camaraderie of New Directions. After learning of a mean-spirited prank his students pulled on rival coaches Rachel and Blaine, he tries to teach his kids about tolerance by making it his weekly lesson plan. But not everyone is willing to accept Will’s softer, all-inclusive style of coaching, forcing him to take a hard look at the choices he’s made in order to figure out his next move.

Rachel must come to terms with the fact her family home has finally been sold and all her memories appear to be going away with it. While she is despondent over the turn of events, Sam recruits the other gleeks to stage an intervention of sorts in order to help her get past the challenging milestone with a fun, song-filled sendoff. 

A post-op Coach Beiste, who has changed his name to Sheldon, returns to McKinley to receive an uncharacteristically warm but typically over-the-top welcome-back from Sue. While his return has several supporters and a few detractors, it takes a bold move from several old-school gleeks to make him really feel at home again. And the romantic tension that has been brewing between Sam and Rachel finally boils over, while Kurt and Blaine find themselves in a familiar situation that brings back old memories.


SPECIAL GUESTS:
Emma Pillsbury-Schuester - JAYMA MAYS
Wade ‘Unique’ Adams - ALEX NEWELL
Dave Karofsky - MAX ADLER
Clint - MAX GEORGE
Walter - HARRY HAMLIN
Kitty Wilde - BECCA TOBIN
Jane Hayward - SAMANTHA MARIE WARE
Spencer Porter - MARSHALL WILLIAMS
Roderick - NOAH GUTHRIE
Mason McCarthy - BILLY LEWIS JR.
Madison McCarthy - LAURA DREYFUSS


PRODUCTION CREDITS:
Written by MATTHEW HODGSON
Directed by DANTE DI LORETO

So Rachel gets another 'intervention' because the poor big baby is sad her house got sold, after already have been supported and propped up by Blaine & the Warblers, and her dad, Will, Sam and Blaine all had an intervention for her too when they watched 'That's So Rachel' with her. Then most of the original ND members came back to help her with the new ND.
Beiste will now also get some form of support/welcoming back rally (probably from Kurt, Mercedes and Alex, maybe Sam).

Question: where were all these people and 'friends' when Kurt was feeling like absolute shit, being the only one to show up at the 6 months meeting, found out Blaine is with Karofsky, and was crying in Rachel's bedroom? When did they arrange an intervention for him? A heartwarmingKum-Ba-Ya song to cheer him up?

*crickets*

The old gang only came rushing back to Lima to help Rachel with recruiting new members for ND, but noone cared enough about Kurt to show up in New York after 6 months.
Oh wait, one of his friends 'cared': she cared so much about him and his sadness that she ripped him apart and attacked every single one of his insecurities, while his bff stood by saying nothing.
And how could I forget: in 6x04 and 6x05 his 'support system' will be Sue pushing and forcing him back to Blaine, even kidnapping him, without listening and respecting his wishes that he doesn't want to get back together with the greasestain.
Ugh, I hate this show so much now.

[Glorfindel]

Now this is something I'm actually looking forward to in 6x07:

[Glorfindel]

Spoilers for 6x04 nd 6x05 from Brian Cantor (@cantorpedia) and a bit from tumblr:
(I put the real important stuff for Kurt in red, but there's a lot of Klaine )

- According to tumblr (so grain of salt) Kurt and Blaine kiss in the elevator, but Blaine is at that point still together with Dave. So that's cheating count #2 or #3 (depends on your vision of cheating) for Blaine.

Brian Cantor  @cantorpedia 
There are meta jokes scattered throughout the episode. In case that's not enough, there's an entire scene/rant dedicated to them.


 Brian Cantor  @cantorpedia      
Nuts that #Glee uses Sue to mock #Klaine shippers instead of celebrating the fact that people actually care about the show's characters...
 

harriet ‏@daisyblainers 
oh dear. should we be worried, then? I'll assume it's not a friendly wink to Klaine fans if that's anything to go by.
Brian Cantor ‏@cantorpedia
I wouldn't necessarily say it's mean-spirited to fans, but I would say it's unnecessary. Time could be better spent elsewhere

harriet ‏@daisyblainers 
is it just like a ranting monologue or something? Or do you just mean her "plot" in general?
Brian Cantor ‏@cantorpedia
Her heart might be in the right place, but everything she says related to Klaine is meant to parody the craziest of shippers.
 

I Darren's butt ‏@bonamore 
but in your opinion for klainers is good, bad, so-so? should we watch it?
Brian Cantor ‏@cantorpedia
There's scene you'd hate if you focus on the dialogue. But it's so obviously #Glee trolling - so it really shouldn't get you down.
..... And there is a bit of a positive moment (as far as the long game) in that scene.

mchalerivera ‏@mchalerivera 
Eh, the shippers on social media are entitled and abusive. Not surprising they reacted.
Brian Cantor ‏@cantorpedia
Of course. But there's a fine line between "chill, it's a TV show" and "you're nuts for getting invested in these characters."

Brian Cantor  @cantorpedia    
To clarify, by mocking "shippers," you inherently undermine the on-screen couple by saying the relationship isn't a big deal.

Brian Cantor  @cantorpedia 
The Klaine stuff in #TheHurtLocker also a bit different than the "lesbian blogger" deal from a while back.

Dani ‏@_Blainecedes  8h8 hours ago  
Different as in harsher?
Brian Cantor  @cantorpedia 
Not as pointed a shot at fans. It's more indirect - it mocks fans by mocking the way people exaggerate the Klaine love story

Cry Me A Rivera ‏@NAYA_WIVES 
writers aren't showing us that Klaine is a genuine love story. They're telling us. Hence why many are pulling away from glee.
Brian Cantor ‏@cantorpedia
And that's the main reason why I hate this Sue storyline. They need to get together because KLAINE!!!!!
.....Instead of using these final episodes to rekindle the spark the characters had and get us excited about their reunion.


Naya is 28 ‏@ThuyNguyen124 
so sue rants to will? How does it does it compare to Santana's rant on Kurt? Was it as funny and over the top?
Brian Cantor ‏@cantorpedia
Similar. Definitely funny. It's more specific to Will & #Glee but also mostly stuff we've heard before.


calanthe_b ‏@calanthe_b
What did you make of the scene between Kurt & Walter?
Brian Cantor ‏@cantorpedia
Not remotely special or memorable.
calanthe_b ‏@calanthe_b
Thanks! I always like seeing a character interact w/someone not from McKinley, tho, so we'll see how it develops. 
Brian Cantor ‏@cantorpedia
I guess what's disappointing is that they don't embrace the fun/absurdity of it. It's decidedly low-key.
ezmia ‏@xcolferscoke
But do they start dating?
Brian Cantor ‏@cantorpedia
Can't spoil anything like that.


B ‏@Mckdizzzzle   
has this episode/season been better or worse than you expected?
Brian Cantor ‏@cantorpedia
It hasn't been bad, but eps 3 & 4 didn't live up to the potential demonstrated in episodes 1 & 2.

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Brian Cantor  @cantorpedia      
Time for #TheHurtLockerPart2. To note, I can't answer anything that would directly spoil 6x04 until after it airs tonight.

Meagan Simpkins ‏@MeggiePie1997
how is the episode so far?
Brian Cantor ‏@cantorpedia
Already much better. The Klaine meta/parody stuff is so much sharper and more fun, and Harry Hamlin was actually effective.
klaine ‏@colfaah   
Could you explain what you mean by 'effective'? 
Brian Cantor ‏@cantorpedia
He and his character actually show some personality - and help create a fun little scene.


Brian Cantor  @cantorpedia      
Yes, so #TheHurtLockerPart2 kind of flattens at the end, but it was still probably the most enjoyable season six episode to date.

Brian Cantor  @cantorpedia      
The dismissive handling of #Klaine in part one becomes sharper commentary, and it demonstrates a much more productive vision.


Brian Cantor  @cantorpedia      
In fact, I almost feel bad about ranting on episode four so hard, because episode five shows the writers kind of "getting it." 

RAINBOW LYNNE ‏@HelloLynne4Ever  
This is in reference to UR earlier tweet about "rekindling the spark & getting us excited about their reunion", yes? #elevator
Brian Cantor ‏@cantorpedia
What I mean is - there ARE things to criticize/address regarding Klaine. Episode 5 recognizes that. Episode 4 just...
... exaggerates the concept of shipping Klaine with no wit, vision or value.

the cutest ‏@klaineislove21   
please let's talk about something good, did you enjoy the elevator scene?
Brian Cantor ‏@cantorpedia
Not just one scene - and it's excellent. Hits all the right notes - delivers the right mixture of highs and lows.

well, kurt ‏@deathena   
Yes, but Kurt, does he have good moments of his own?
Brian Cantor ‏@cantorpedia
Not really - he's mostly relationship-oriented in these episodes; Rachel takes the clear lead as far as the New Directions go.


Amanda ‏@HummelSnark  
Is dave in the episode?
Brian Cantor ‏@cantorpedia   
All I'll say is that he's not a focus. Sue's effort to reunite Klaine + the Invitational are the big deals here.
debbi ‏@weddingklaine   
We were told he wasn't in 6x05 are they wrong?
Brian Cantor ‏@cantorpedia
The whole point of my answer is that I wasn't answering the question.
 

Laura ‏@L_V_87
is Sam hypnotized again in part 2?
Brian Cantor ‏@cantorpedia
Yes

Brian Cantor  @cantorpedia 
In all, I'll say both #TheHurtLocker Pt 1 and Pt 2 have merit as hours of entertainment. 
.....But where Part 1 uses meta humor to mock (thus trivializing the show & relationships), part 2 uses it as a call to improve & correct.

Amy ‏@Hemoverse  
Hmm. I can't stand meta humor. It's such lazy styles of picking jokes. But at least they improve on it 
Brian Cantor ‏@cantorpedia
Well, in fairness, both episodes are beyond overloaded with it. But I thought it was used more intelligently in part 2

[valkeakuulas]

All I can think of is Harry Hamlin is, sorry for saying this, so old! It's not the working dad in his fourties we were told. Hamlin is like...way over 60 right?

Cantor is so nice with his "relationship orientated" for Kurt...He just didn't feel like saying: Kurt has nothing to do but prop up Blaine.

[Glorfindel]

More spoilers for 6x04 and 6x05 from @starrymag and Jamie Steinberg (both Brittana/Santana fans).

debbi ‏@weddingklaine
 Is the episode of glee this boring?
StarryMag ‏@StarryMag
Unfortunately it is, I couldn't find anything funny about it.

blaykee ‏@blaykee
What can you say about Klaine? or Dave?
StarryMag ‏@StarryMag
They are still together in the first episode. Have not watched the second one just yet.
ezmia ‏@xcolferscoke 
Are Blaine/Dave still together in ep.5?
StarryMag ‏@StarryMag
Yes they are.
Klaine Lover ‏@KlaineRing 
 Is anything you can tell us what Dave does in the episode? Or at least if he has a lot of scene or just a brief appearance again?
StarryMag ‏@StarryMag
Dave is not in episode 6x5.

RAINBOW LYNNE ‏@HelloLynne4Ever 
Just HOW friendly? Inquiring minds...any sweet Klaine deets are very appreciated. Thanks.
StarryMag ‏@StarryMag
Sue is bent on getting them back together, at all costs, she's the hardest core Klaine shipper of them all.

Jamie Steinberg @NotYerAvgChick 
If you thought Chucky or Billy the Puppet was scary, wait until you watch #Glee episode 6x05!

Vote_4_DC_Klaine ‏@PCA4DCKlaine 
tell us about the bears!

Jamie Steinberg ‏@NotYerAvgChick
The bear or the bears?
Vote_4_DC_Klaine ‏@PCA4DCKlaine
ALL human, animal, stuff.
Jamie Steinberg ‏@NotYerAvgChick
Someone is displeased there are bears at their date and someone is upset there is a bear in their home. #Blainofsky 
Kelsie Anderson ‏@KelsieLAnderson
I'd love to know what Kurt thought of the actual Bear attacking the apartment lol
Jamie Steinberg ‏@NotYerAvgChick
Kurt isn't the one that minds the bear. Someone else has a moment of freakout about it! 

maeve ‏@invisiblegrl_
Anything on Blaine's piano lesson? Are he, Rachel and Sam randomly friends again?
Jamie Steinberg ‏@NotYerAvgChick
Like nothing ever happened...

JulieBug ‏@Julie1277
what can you say about Kurt's date?
Jamie Steinberg ‏@NotYerAvgChick
It goes from date to hanging out real fast.

Jamie Steinberg ‏@NotYerAvgChick
Kurt seems to be "trying" to move on. 
Klaine Lover ‏@KlaineRing 11h11 hours ago
Can you tell us anything about Dave or Walter (if they are in it) in the episode?
Jamie Steinberg ‏@NotYerAvgChick
Walter makes a cameo in 6x05 and it displeases me! #Klaine #Glrr

Luuh ‏@marriedby21
I just wish you would tell us something about the elevator scene that would give us hope, please??
Jamie Steinberg ‏@NotYerAvgChick
The elevator scene features little known #Klaine facts!
ann ‏@tropicalfish100
re: elevator scene, do Kurt and Blaine talk about their relationship and feelings? because they really need a good talk!
Jamie Steinberg ‏@NotYerAvgChick
No talk of #Klaine feelings in the elevator. Just know the temperature of the room kinda equates to the chemistry
christy ‏@kurtblainez 11h11 hours ago
jamieeeeee do kurt and blaine kisss? was it a good episode? give me the deets
Jamie Steinberg ‏@NotYerAvgChick
It's an all day kidnap of #Klaine and it is hot as heck up in there. (For two reasons)

[Glorfindel]

All I can think of is Harry Hamlin is, sorry for saying this, so old! It's not the working dad in his fourties we were told. Hamlin is like...way over 60 right?

Cantor is so nice with his "relationship orientated" for Kurt...He just didn't feel like saying: Kurt has nothing to do but prop up Blaine.

Yup.

Harry Hamlin is 63.......now I know he's very goodlooking for his age, but come on.
At least his character seems to be very friendly to Kurt and someone Kurt can vent his feelings to, someone who finally listens to him when his friends clearly don't (although Walter will probably turn into another Klainer in the end, they all do).

-ETA-
Okay, what will be their shipname: Wurt? Walkurt? 

[Jellyrolls]

Ultimately, RIB and the writers are giving Klaine the reunion K(b)lainers wanted the way they want it.  They don't care about the issues between the Kurt and Blaine.  They don't care about resolving anything.  They don't care about what lead to them breaking up.  They especially don't care about anything that Blaine does that is harmful or hurtful to Kurt.  They only care about "their boys" being together.  It doesn't matter how incompatible they are, or how many issues they are.  It only matters that they are together.

The K(b)lainers don't care about the journey. They only care about the destination.

[Divalicious]

I still haven't watched last week, school has been busy, and I haven't felt like dealing with the crap of Glee.  It's not even something I can leave on in the background, I have no tolerance anymore.  The more I read, the more I despise what RIB has allowed Glee to become, basically something simply to please one single part of the audience, and I'm not going to call them Klainers.  I admit I don't go many places, but the places I do, that aren't here, the people are solely interested in Blaine.  Blaine getting the prize and the recognition.  They realize that even when they tear Kurt down for being effeminate, that he is the prize, and of course Blaine should get it.  They don't perceive Dave as being their type of attractive, so Kurt is the better of two evils  In the end, whomever Blaine is with, is just their substitute, because they would treat Blaine "right."  And they can continue to believe that Blaine is the greatest, because the show continually tells them that it is so.  Just like Rachel is the most special snow flake ever, and no matter how much she screws up, the world should bend over backwards to ensure she gets as many chances as she requires.  

I also hate that RIB think that the greatest prize a loser like Kurt can get is to marry a little boy that he will have to spend the rest of his life propping up emotionally and creatively.  Sitting on a stool in adoration, no doubt.  Blah

[Glorfindel]

"[Spencer] might have something happen later on in the season [in regards to his dating history], but I guess you’ll have to keep watching to make sure. He’s not really too much of a kiss and tell kind of guy so you don’t really see that right away from him."
"Later on in the season Kurt’s going to help Spencer work out some issues. They have a special kind of bond because they both are united in the sense that they both are gay."

"It surprised me how nice and welcoming they are, [Chris Colfer] is awesome."

Marshall Williams

[Ranwing]

"[Spencer] might have something happen later on in the season [in regards to his dating history], but I guess you’ll have to keep watching to make sure. He’s not really too much of a kiss and tell kind of guy so you don’t really see that right away from him."
"Later on in the season Kurt’s going to help Spencer work out some issues. They have a special kind of bond because they both are united in the sense that they both are gay."

"It surprised me how nice and welcoming they are, [Chris Colfer] is awesome."

Marshall Williams

Well, at least this gives us something to look forward to. I was hoping to see some good interactions between Kurt and Spencer.

[Glorfindel]

^I was hoping to get some storyline for Kurt that doesn't mean him propping up Rachel or Blaine. Maybe in this storyline he will do no more than propping up new shiny toy Spencer, but I'll take it. 


From tumblr, so grain of salt: Sue/Saw tells Klaine in the elevator that if they kiss they're allowed to go out of the room.
How creepy is it for a 50+ highschool principal to not only have a shrine-like room committed to a young gay couple, with a picture of them kissing when they were 15-16, but also to know kidnap them and force them to kiss?

And according to her twitter and bts video Jane Lynch even seems to be proud of that storyline?


Also: with Sue hypnotising Sam and telling him to kiss Rachel in 6x04, and in 6x05 she's forcing Kurt and Blaine to kiss, she is seriously moving into sexual harassment territory there.

[Glorfindel]

Someone else who apparently saw 6x04 and 6x05:

Glee…What?!

Get ready for the most bizarro episodes of GLEE ever with ‘The Hurt Locker’ I & II.
I honestly don’t know what I just watched.
Sue Sylvester, while trying her best to do God’s work with Klaine, has never been more insanely outrageous. I think my most common reactions while watching were ‘HUH?!’ And ‘WTF?!’


ohsoklaine asked: when Kurt say's he "I do not want to get back together with Blaine" does it seem like he really means it?
lifeaccordingtokath:
Just my opinion - Yes, he does sound like he doesn’t want to get back together.
But I don’t believe him.

However, I thought Kurt’s resolve to go to Ohio to get Blaine back in the first ep would have led to him pining and doing whatever it takes to get him back. He doesn’t seems to be doing that as much as trying to move forward, move on.

I have to wonder if there is a time jump in the final eps. I just don’t know they get Klaine from where they are now to where we know they’ll be. I mean, Blaine has a new life in which he is living with his boyfriend.

Hmm…

I wonder what the ratings will be after these episodes.


If I interpreted the spoilers right:
- Blaine is still dating Dave in 6x07 (or at least 6x06), yet Klaine get married a week or 2 later in 6x08. 
- Brittana get engaged in 6x03 and have a completely arranged wedding with perfect fitting wedding dresses in 6x08, 5 weeks later. Well at least that's more wedding planning than Burt and Carol got, who got engaged and married in the same episode, but at least they had Kurt as their wedding planner.
- Beiste is still on hormones and pre-operation in 6x03, but will be completely transitioned to being a man in 6x08, post-operation and apparently fully recovered, with beard growth and all.

The timeline and speed of Glee is utterly messed up (and stupid).

[mindschemez]

Adam and Elliot were such great friends for Kurt. Hell, throw in Dani as well. They seemed to get along well in the band. I miss.


ETA: oops wrong thread! But the sentiment still stands

[dimpledchris]

From tumblr, so grain of salt: Sue/Saw tells Klaine in the elevator that if they kiss they're allowed to go out of the room.
How creepy is it for a 50+ highschool principal to not only have a shrine-like room committed to a young gay couple, with a picture of them kissing when they were 15-16, but also to know kidnap them and force them to kiss?

Also: with Sue hypnotising Sam and telling him to kiss Rachel in 6x04, and in 6x05 she's forcing Kurt and Blaine to kiss, she is seriously moving into sexual harassment territory there.

The show is just going to make light of the sexual assault, aren't they. Siiigh.

[Glorfindel]

Sue shows Becky a video of Come What May. Becky says “How could you get that? that was a dream sequence.”

Blaine: ' yeah, this does not mean anything. The only reason reason we ' re doing this is because sue will let's out.'
Kurt: ' because sue is forcing us '
Blaine: ' forcing us!'
Kurt: ' count of 3 '
Sue saw: ' 1, 2, 3 '
* happens a kiss of 10 seconds, but as it is in slow motion takes 20 *
Sue saw: ' yeah! Congratulation klaine.'
Opens the door to the elevator, and they are starting to run to the auditorium.

[ColferInspired]

The Spencer and Kurt storyline sounds promising.  

I did see the chemistry Chris had with him in their short scene together.

I would love them to duet together, so Kurt gets to sing with someone else for a change.

I love when Chris gets praise from others.

Everyone seems to full in love with Chris when they work with him. Nice to see the newbies seem to enjoy working with him and of course the rest of the cast.

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