Re: Kurt Hummel Spoiler Thread--part 4

[fantastica]

for glee that's about underdogs, glee's cast is ridiculously attractively already, and they are casting more hot hunks... I get it, young teen girls want to see pretty faces to feed their imaginary love fest, and they desperately need pretty faces to draw eyeballs because there's else is keeping viewres around.

[Divalicious]

Plus, for their main lead underdog, Rachel, everyone and their cousin falls in love with her. Even Jessie, who was fairly vacuous, but talented, puts himself to the side for her. Sigh. I don't want to hate on Rachel, I really don't, but I am tired of everything being for her, people fighting over her, because it is a girl and it is acceptable. Rather than a handsome hunk fight for the gorgeous Kurt, which isn't acceptable, because he is femme, and should be lucky anyone wants him at all.

Feeling bitter this morning, when we get more info on Rachel's storyline's and her already singing, and nothing so far for Kurt. Waahhhh!!!

[fantastica]

well, "kurt"'s body is doing the wonderful book tour and media appearances so I don't mind if he's light in 4.01. I think his own projects are more important than Glee.

[ChrisColferFan1]

I am still very dubious of how putting Kurt into a non-performance related career is going to fit into a series where the whole premise is based on young people involved in the performing arts. Yes, it makes sense that not everyone involved in ND moves on into a performing arts career, but it still stings beyong belief that a young man who's whole identity was tied up in being a performer is one of the few graduates who does not seem to be moving on into a career in the performing arts. Given that Kurt had almost no real singing for most of season 3, it's easy to be concerned that we will see him completely sidelined as a singer during season 4.

My greatest concern at this point is that with Kurt not going to NYADA (for whatever stupid rational TPTB decided to use), Kurt is now completely divorced from the primary storyline in NY where his character will be located and he will be reduced to being Rachel's support system and helpmate as she continues on her journey towards her dreams. I'm afraid that with NYADA being the total focus of the NY location that Kurt's story will end up being told off-screen, that he will have even fewer chances to sing (and for reasons that make sense) than he did in season 3 and that aside from brief appearances from SJP, we will only know what is happening with Kurt from what he tells Rachel and not because we actually get to see him doing anything of consequence.

I'm at the stage where I just don't care about Rachel's storyline since it seems to be set in stone - the writers have shown that Rachel's success will always be assured in the end so there's absolutely no suspence in watching her brief struggles. Unless they do something really shocking (like have Rachel wash out of NYADA altogether because she can't cut it), there's really nothing they're going to do to surprise me. Now that the rug has been completely pulled out from under all of Kurt's hopes an aspirations, I need to see some real focus on Kurt's journey at this stage. I need to see his progression in deciding where he goes now (whether it's to give up on a performance based career and how he figures out what he does next to deciding to continue on trying to find his place as a performer) and see that storyline given proper focus and respect. If he has to continue struggling (at least initially) I need to see proper payoff for those struggles. Not the rediculous litany of defeat that the writers piled on top of Kurt all through season 3.

And please... let's stop using Kurt as some kind of moral role model where he just has to suffer the indignities that life heaps upon him with a stiff upper lip and always being the better person and let him be the intelligent, snarky young man who wasn't afraid to manipulate things in his own favor on occasion. You want to make Kurt an "inspiration"? Let him win once in awhile and win on his own terms.

I agree with the above post 100% Espeically,the last part.

[Emile]

I'm not interested in either of the new guys' SLs, but they surely cast them pretty. Puck’s younger half-brother looks fineeee.

And please... let's stop using Kurt as some kind of moral role model where he just has to suffer the indignities that life heaps upon him with a stiff upper lip and always being the better person and let him be the intelligent, snarky young man who wasn't afraid to manipulate things in his own favor on occasion. You want to make Kurt an "inspiration"? Let him win once in awhile and win on his own terms.

YES.

(Even if I don't know if they still want to use him as an ispiration; they only seem to like to compliment themself for the 'rapresentation' they gave to various subjects).



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Glee’s Chris Colfer Wants “Drama” for Kurt & Blaine, Hopes to Sing Britney Spears in Tribute Episode

Could Kurt and Blaine be headed for trouble in the new season of Glee?

Sounds like Chris Colfer and Darren Criss wouldn’t mind the two hitting a rocky patch.

”I would like to do something besides say ‘I love you,’ and I think Darren and I agree on that,” Colfer, 22, told me at the Teen Choice Awards. “We’re ready for the next step. They’ve been together for a while. Let’s throw some spice and drama into that.”

Colfer insisted he doesn’t know what it’s in store for the couple. “I wish I could tell you something,” said Colfer, who’s currently on a nationwide tour promoting his first children’s book, The Land of Stories. “I hear mixed things. I hear they’re still together but then maybe they’re breaking up.”

One thing Gleeks won’t be seeing anytime soon—a Kurt and Blaine wedding. “I would strongly not recommend that for an 18-year-old,” Colfer said with a laugh when asked if he could see the two getting married. “That’s way too young. I don’t want to promote that!”

Now, let’s talk about the upcoming second Britney Spears tribute episode. Colfer said he hopes to perform something from the pop princess’ most recent album, Femme Fatale, since he didn’t get to sing one of her songs during their first Spears extravaganza.

Chord Overstreet revealed he was in the studio on Friday working on his material.

“It’s probably one of her most recent singles,” teased the blond hottie, 23. “We’re doing a really cool version of it. It’s going to be a little group number. It’s going to be fun.”

[sahhar]

Glee Scoop: Meet the 'Freshman' Class



Glee has tapped relative newcomers Dean Geyer and Jacob Artist to join the show’s upcoming fourth season, premiering Sept. 13.

Geyer will play Broady Weston, a handsome upperclassman at NYADA who shows an interest in Lea Michele’s Rachel. Meanwhile, back at McKinley, Artist will play Puck’s younger half-brother Jake.

The news comes as the Fox phenom is undergoing a bit of a reboot ahead of its fourth season, which finds many of the show’s core characters transitioning to post-McKinley life.

All veteran castmembers are expected back, but in varying capacities. According to reports, Michele is the only Glee thesp set to appear in all episodes produced this season. Additionally, Glee Project alums Samuel Larsen and Alex Newell are expected back on a recurring basis.

http://tvline.com/2012/07/23/glee-season-4-cast/

For a show which portrays Rachel as an underdog. She sure has millions of guys falling for her anywhere she goes. Finn, Puck, Jesse, Blaine, etc. Of course the new love interest was for Rachel and not Kurt. What an exciting storyline

[Buenos]

”I would like to do something besides say ‘I love you,’ and I think Darren and I agree on that,” Colfer, 22, told me at the Teen Choice Awards. “We’re ready for the next step. They’ve been together for a while. Let’s throw some spice and drama into that.”

Colfer insisted he doesn’t know what it’s in store for the couple. “I wish I could tell you something,” said Colfer, who’s currently on a nationwide tour promoting his first children’s book, The Land of Stories. “I hear mixed things. I hear they’re still together but then maybe they’re breaking up.”

One thing Gleeks won’t be seeing anytime soon—a Kurt and Blaine wedding. “I would strongly not recommend that for an 18-year-old,” Colfer said with a laugh when asked if he could see the two getting married. “That’s way too young. I don’t want to promote that!”

Chris really is the anti Lea, he shades the show whenever he can...LOL

[fantastica]

actually he's not really shading the show. he's just telling the truth. there's nothing he can tell about spoilers because he hasn't read the script yet. both chris and darren are sick and tired of playing boring couple (because that means there's nothing to do). those teen girls who want them to stick together like salt and pepper bottles in a fairy tale setting (and not Chris' version of hte fairy tale, but Disney's version) should stick w/ Disney cartoons and playing Ken and Barbie dolls instead. Because it's sure boring as hell when a couple has nothing to do but calling each other honey and making heart eyes. there's no stories to tell. Real life can be boring, but not for drama on TV.

[fantastica]

hmm, pretty much expected. only Santana, kurt and finn gets to stick around more because they are somehow attached to rachel - santana being the future roomie (what a forced pairing!), finn being rachel's old flame from teh hood, and kurt being rachel's personal stylist and emotional support as well as the go-to guy for writers to kick butt whenever they need drama. and of course, rachel their "underdog" princess - the lead/star of hte show.

[valkeakuulas]

Yaay, more boys for the pack, what are girls for in Glee if they are not called Rachel? Why would a balanced show need females? It's just really twisted the way they are going with this casting. Especially if TGP is won by a guy...might that actually happen or do they have a girl lined up? I'm sure they already knew the "winner" the day they started.

So right now the only female students besides Rachel are Tina, Sugar and Brittney right? And perhaps that new cheerleader they were earlier looking for. Makes me think McKinley has to be put on the backburner storyline in order for the show to work at all. I really don't care but this is getting really funny now that I've learned just to...wonder.

[fantastica]

ideally for the fans, this show should have mostly gay boys who are smoothing and saying "i love you" all the time, plus heart eyes.

Fox president Kevin Reilly is giving Glee‘s upcoming mini-reboot a big thumbs up, while also managing expectations about how involved the core cast will be moving forward.

“I’ve read first three scripts and I’m very happy with how seamless [the transition] is,” Reilly told reporters at the Television Critics Association’s summer press tour in Beverly Hills, adding that the show will split its focus between McKinley and NYADA, where Rachel is enrolled as a freshman. “There’s going to be thematic linkages between the two [worlds].”

Although it’s been widely reported that all major castmembers would be back for Season 4, Reilly acknowledged that several actors will only be around part time. “We really have a core of some of the returning characters and some of the new ones that we’ll be servicing every week, and then limited deals with some of the other actors, who will be joining here and there through the season,” he said. “I think it will make for a fun surprise [when they turn up].”

http://tvline.com/2012/07/23/glee-season-4-cast-spoilers-casting/

[sahhar]

Chris said in an AccessHollywood interview that he starts filming in two weeks, while other people start in one week. I have a feeling the only cast member/character who's going to be present in every single episode and have a main status is Lea/Rachel. Everyone else has been downgraded to recurring status, and that is the sad truth. While Dianna, Mark, Harry and Amber are reduced to guest star status.

The Rachel Berry Show commences this September. Sigh.

[fantastica]

rehash of the same spoiler from Kristin:

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So will some episodes take place fully in New York City or Ohio? Nope! Reilly originally thought the show would split the season down the middle between the locations, but he soon realized it wouldn't work. "Ultimately, I don't think that's the way fans want to watch the show...some episodes may take place half and half," he explains. "The episodes we've read so far do take place back and forth…it all feels very natural if you've been a fan of the show.

"Episode one, right out of the gate, we'll be in both locations," Reilly tells us. "I knew we needed to graduate some people. None of these characters...the fans weren't over them, ready for them to be not a part of the show, but we knew we needed to bring in some new people to be credible, if nothing else. This is what happens in high school. This is the best of both words, sort of the spinoff within the show. It'll feel like Glee, but you're going to have some new faces and a new location."

After the panel we chatted with Reilly, who further explained season four's new faces, including Dean Geyer as an NYADA student and Jacob Artist as Puck's younger brother. "We have a core group, but then you've got some new ones who will be regulars. There's going to be at least two new ones in Ohio, and then we cast one new character, as well as the Kate Hudson arc, who will be involved in at least seven episodes."
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http://www.eonline.com/news/332206/glee-to-have-seamless-new-season-britney-spears-feisty-on-x-factor-fox-boss-says

[ChrisColferFan1]

Chris said in an AccessHollywood interview that he starts filming in two weeks, while other people start in one week. I have a feeling the only cast member/character who's going to be present in every single episode and have a main status is Lea/Rachel. Everyone else has been downgraded to recurring status, and that is the sad truth. While Dianna, Mark, Harry and Amber are reduced to guest star status.

The Rachel Berry Show commences this September. Sigh.

You are right

[fantastica]

this is from last night's red carpet. but then chris also said he hadn't read any scripts so i guess it was all hearsay. Personally i don't think it matters where kurt is. he's not going to have his own stories that has nothing to do w/ rachel or blaine or anybody else. if he's in NY, aside from the episode of him w/ SJP I don't think they will show his work again. It would all be his interactions w/ other glee characters, mainly rachel, and maybe finn, santana etc. so to me, as long as he's showing his face on tv, i am happy. I have no further expectations from this show. I don't expect kurt to have any success or "pay off". i just want to see his pretty face. I won't even follow up w/ who is doing what and why on glee. for me, glee is long dead. all i see is chris, playing whoever whatever.

sorry about this negative mumbling.

[ColferInspired]

Chris said in an AccessHollywood interview that he starts filming in two weeks, while other people start in one week. I have a feeling the only cast member/character who's going to be present in every single episode and have a main status is Lea/Rachel. Everyone else has been downgraded to recurring status, and that is the sad truth. While Dianna, Mark, Harry and Amber are reduced to guest star status.

The Rachel Berry Show commences this September. Sigh.

But Chris said that last week during a radio interview that he will start filming in two weeks. And Lea said Rachel is talking to Kurt on the phone and she has scenes with Chris and that must be episode one.

Is Chris maybe getting his weeks and days mixed up perhaps?

He is doing this book tour and he could be losing track of time perhaps.

I don't like it that he hasn't a script yet. I hope it's not just him that doesn't have one.

[fantastica]

chris may need 1 or 2 day to shoot for his scenes. chances are no singing for him this episode, so he doens't have to spend a lot of time filming. the music numbers take a long time to film, because you also have to do recording, choreography and then lipsynching it. if it's just a phone scene it would be very easy. only chris' head will be shown, for like a few seconds. he doesn't even need to put his pants on. i think chris' scene in this episode will be (1) w/ rachel on the phone, giving her support as she faces a whole new world; and (2) w/ Will talking about his future and doing something for glee club recruitment etc.

[fantastica]

Some of Glee’s actors will be back full-time while others will have limited deals, reiterating what producers told fans at Comic-Con. Reilly has read the first three scripts of the season and reveals that the series will cut back and forth from small town Ohio to New York City seamlessly. But sorry Gleeks, Reilly has no plans to revisit a spin-off idea should the split-locale format prove successful. “The idea is to compact,” he says. “At one point we talked about it; I want the show to be vibrant and that's why we decided to compact it into the show itself.”

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/tca-fox-kevin-reilly-mariah-carey-american-idol-glee-353104

mm, next year I am sure blaine will be in NYADA, being Rachel's male partner and both will climb to stardom. since he can kiss rachel all he wants and finn won't get jealous, it seems like a win-win situation. whatever.

[ColferInspired]

That new actor coming to the show Dean Geyer is an Australian. He was from Australian Idol originally.

He can sing and is a song writer.

His acting is pretty good, he can at least carry a scene and he stays in character from what I have seen, but he is definitely not award winning or any threat to Chris or anyone else in that area. He was in a Spielberg show on Fox that I can't remember the name of.

And apparently he is a really nice guy. Girls went nuts when he was on idol.

Pity he will be a part of Rachel's storyline. I would love him to be a part of Kurt's instead if he ever had one that is.

[fantastica]

ahh, glad to know. thanks Liz! anyway anybody who can actually get into NYADA should be able to sing very well. so they cna't just cast someone who mediocre singing abilities. Remember not even Jessy St. James were able to get in.

[ColferInspired]

[quote="fantastica"]ahh, glad to know. thanks Liz! anyway anybody who can actually get into NYADA should be able to sing very well. so they cna't just cast someone who mediocre singing abilities. Remember not even Jessy St. James were able to get in.[/quote

I actually made a joke with my housemate that Dean Geyer should go on Glee and give Darren a run for his money, that the stans would dump Darren and lust after Dean.

Looks like my joke turned into reality. I definitely wasn't seeing this coming.

[fantastica]

^ haha, I have ask you to make more predictions from now on. you are a natural fortune teller.

[Divalicious]

Here is hoping that the new guy, after tiring of carrying Rachel's ego around in a bag, and tired of Finn in the shadows, decides that her BFF is making him question his sexuality. He then flirts endlessly with Kurt, who really doesn't know what to do with all this attention on him for once. After having to validate Rachel so much, he enjoys supporting Kurt in the way he deserves, and vows to marry him. Yeah, I know, but all these "spoilers" are spoiling my appetite.

Again, I think my biggest problem is Jessie St. James, who has a great voice, and Kurt, who has stage presence and a unique voice (great to me, of course) don't get into NYADA, but this guy, whom I am sure is an adequate singer, get's in. Well, I have a great many problems with this whole pile of crap, but that is one of the bigger ones. I wonder what they plan on doing with this guy after this season, since apparently he is a regular. Pine after Rachel, or just back and forth between Finn and whatever his name shall be forever and ever. Once again, I thank the remote inventor who created the fast forward button. I think it will save my life, or at least my sanity.

I agree that Chris will probably film his scenes all in one to two days, and they will be intercut into the episodes he missed out on. Most likely it is simply the whole first episode and part of the second that he isn't available for because of his book tour. Thank god we have the book tour footage, and the SBL stuff, it is great to see Chris appreciated.

I agree with the idea of not caring what they write on Glee anymore, just look for Chris' lovely face, hope for a scene with Finn and Burt, and kind of just write off the series. I just have never been one to like love triangles, even when I was a romantic teenybopper. I prefer a story that may have an element of romance, but that isn't the center of the matter. Which is why I find Rachel's stories boring. Because it is about a girl and a boy and another boy, and possibly another girl. Her journey to success is just along for the ride, while she makes out with all the cute guys. Yawn. You can see that anywhere. Of course, I never liked Rachel and Ross, I was a Chandler/Monica fan. If their emotions are so vapid they can go back and forth between other people, I just can't value the relationship. I don't like soaps either, sigh, which is what this has become.

Kurt's story, while it has an element of romance, (in theory, they don't go about showing it much) is about an effeminate, strong, amazing young man, who doesn't fit the accepted pattern for society. He breaks rules, and rewrites them. He isn't just an acid spewing, or comedic prop character like so many gay characters become. He has depth, and as the writers forget, importance. He is also being portrayed by an actor that can bring any scene they care to throw at him, something most of their cast cannot say. I know there was season 2 lash out because of all the St. Kurtness, but they can write him better than they did in season 3. There was no reason for season 3 to be the way it was, except the person overseeing stories fell asleep from boredom and realized you just can't give a person crap for an entire season, and their one highlight was sex with their boyfriend, and possibly two if you can't just being accepted as a finalist, big whoop.

Regarding the script thing, I believe he has it, he mentioned receiving a tweet that it is in, but I bet he hasn't had the time to really look at it. Plus, it makes it easier for him to evade, because he hasn't looked at it, that way all questions will be pertinent to his tour.

[Ranwing]

Have there been any real spoilers pertaining to Kurt at all? So far, pretty much everything has been about Rachel and her NYADA adventures. Now I was expecting at least the first ep to be very Rachel heavy (since the show seems insistant upon shoving St. Rachel of the Special Snowflake down our throats) but given the outcry over what happened to Kurt last season and the fact that his future is completely undecided, it's beyond frustrating that we haven't even gotten bare crumbs about what they have in mind for him.

For me, this can mean one of two things depending on my mood. If I'm looking at it from my "glass is half full" perspective, they're keeping Kurt's storyline very much under wraps because they've got something really amazing in mind and don't want to blow the surprise. In my "glass is half empty" moments, it comes across like the writers just don't care to write anything about any other character except Rachel and all the other characters (Kurt included) are only important in how they fit into Rachel's story.

There are times when I really wish that I could quit this show. Damn you, Colfer! Always drawing me back with your adorableness and complete hotness. I blame you entirely!

[fantastica]

I agree your glass is half empty. It's much more realistic.

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