Re: Kurt Hummel Spoiler Thread--part 4

[ChrisColferFan1]

I agree your glass is half empty. It's much more realistic.

True I hope Kurt will win at least once next season. I doubt it though I hope I am proven wrong.

[Divalicious]

I'm with you there, Ranwing, if it weren't for Chris, I could quit this show, quite happily. My "vote" doesn't count as I am not Nielson family, so I am sure they wouldn't miss me or my income watching their commercials. Even the music doesn't get me like it used to, because the same people sing, the same kind of songs. There isn't that variety that sparked the first season. With Reilly's speech earlier in the year, I think it will be NY-Broadway, and Lima-top 40, with the occasional vice versa. So long to the songs from any other decade, other than perhaps the Beatles, which they probably won't give to Kurt, anymore, anyway.

I am definitely in my "glass half empty" phase. Kurtsies are used to itty-bitty crumbs of happiness, and I am sure one will be thrown our way, Chris is filming a scene or whatever, and a few drops with go into my glass, and make it almost half full, and I can be optimistic until the next spoiler dashes my hopes. Why do I even get them? I should just fully expect 22 episodes from the season beginning for Kurt to be exactly where he started, just in NY. Not dating, not kissing, not singing or dancing, not successful in any way. Just like season 3. That way anything will be better than that. Why can't I just live there? Because I just can't believe even the idiot writers can do the same thing to Kurt for another entire season, even though I fully believe they will do the exact same thing to Rachel. Pining, crying and singing for Rachel, but at least she will be admired, just like season 3.

What is that saying, the definition of futility is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different outcome? Well, they keep doing the same thing, and the audience keeps getting smaller, time to do something different, Glee. How about becoming inspiring again? How about the person who is not set up to win, winning big time. How about letting the little girl in the big city actually crash and burn? How about making me care for Rachel, and worry about her, instead of just being annoyed she gets all the goodies and doesn't share?

[CloveGlee]

Chris said in an AccessHollywood interview that he starts filming in two weeks, while other people start in one week. I have a feeling the only cast member/character who's going to be present in every single episode and have a main status is Lea/Rachel. Everyone else has been downgraded to recurring status, and that is the sad truth. While Dianna, Mark, Harry and Amber are reduced to guest star status.

The Rachel Berry Show commences this September. Sigh.

Shrug. He might be given another week to finish his book tour. But that's OK, a little birdie sent me his storyline for the season anyway. I posted it once, but if you didn't see it:


1. As the first episode begins, he will be working at the Lima Bean. The very first scene of the season shows him serving a latte to Sebastian, who leaves a penny tip. Sebastian will sing as Kurt winces.
2. After his shift each day he goes and hangs out with his good pal Will, who is always quick to remind him that even though he had that weird, ugly girl voice, he was always a great team player. Will sings while Kurt nods.
3. Sebastian flirts with Blaine, who rebuffs him. Sebastian and Blaine sing a really hot, sexy duet.
4. Kurt offers to help New Directions by recruiting Unique, who was such a talented effeminate guy, unlike himself. Unique sings.
5. Rachel sings about how much she misses Kurt. She decides it’s up to her to get him to New York City.
6. Rachel meets with Sarah Jessica Parker. They sing a duet about missing your best friend.
7. Rachel convinces Sarah Jessica Parker to hire Kurt as a gopher at her fashion magazine.
8. Kurt is very grateful that Rachel has rescued him. Blaine sings about how much he’s going to miss Kurt.
9. Kurt goes to New York City and goes to work for SJP. The entire magazine staff sing a song about working for the magazine. The only person who does not sing is Kurt.
10. Sebastian sings a love song to Blaine. They cheat together. A duet ensues.
11. Rachel tries out for an off-Broadway show. She gets cast as the leading lady. Kurt tries out. He is asked to work in the wardrobe department. Rachel sings a song from the show as Kurt shows her dresses.
12. Kurt finds out about Sebastian and Blaine. Blaine breaks up with him because Sebastian is THERE for him and Kurt is not. Rachel sings Kurt a song of encouragement.
13. Season Four ends with Rachel in her off-Broadway debut. Kurt Hummel, as the dresser for the cast, watchesfrom the wings and says he’s so happy that his best friend has had all her dreams come true. And he got to go to New York and watch her succeed! He even gets to take care of her costumes for her!
14. Blaine announces that he’s been accepted into NYADA. He also misses Kurt. He is going to dump Sebastian and take Kurt back. Kurt is ecstatic that his man wants him back again. Yes, he’s in New York. He has a job in the theatre. He gets to watch Rachel succeed and Blaine is willing to take him back. That’s all he could possibly hope for! Yes, Kurt Hummel has had a pretty good year. Blaine sings about how much they love each other.

Eh. I'm just not that interested anymore. I think the finale really did kill something for me, and watching Glee Project didn't really help. I discovered that... I really kind of hate several of the "mentors" and people in charge of Glee. Somewhere between setting Charlie up for failure because of his disabilities and ordering Abraham to self-identify as androgynous, I think the last straw snapped.

[Dame Loli]

^I think the biggest problem with the Glee Project, and by connection Glee, is that RIB are so much up their own asses about the message of "underdogs" and acceptance that they "pity" casted some of the contestant.

They care more about the preaching aspect of Glee than its content.

For example : Mario, the blind guy, he could be the best singer of the world and his story could be the most touching and empowering, but let's face it, in the real Hollywood world, he wouldn't be casted in a tv show because the blindness would be too much of a challenge on a set as fast pace as Glee. He would required too much changes in the way the crew works, for him to be a good addition, same with Charlie; they didn't see how they could work with or around his ADHD (or didn't want to) so they sent him to the chopping block.

And the judges have their favorites that they pushed threw each week, just like Ryan was always saving Cameron and Alex each times despite the fact they weren't ready for Glee.

[valkeakuulas]

Reilly sounds awfully positive yet again so makes me think that he does not really know anything.
But right now I am actually not even thinking about Kurt because the spoilers aren't either. But yes even after saying that I too have dual thought prossess: either they are afraid to say any spoilers about him because there are not any or they are not good. Or theeeeen, they are just generally afraid to say any spoilers about Kurt because they have so many times put their foot in a beehive because they are unable to communicate with fans. I'm just thinking the poor Finn fans who probably have nothing either.

This next thought is something that can be used as a weapon against Kurt, Chris and especially Ryan, but I feel they have moved on from Kurt big time and that is why I just can not be interested either. But it must be really painful for at least Chris to witness the assination of Kurt because of the writing in every script S3 and perhaps the same continues? I was going to stay positive, what is wrong with me! *slaps on you* But what the heck, I will watch dung dry if Chris is being filmed watching it too.

[ColferInspired]

If any newbie wants to shine they have to play opposite Chris.

Playing opposite Lea won't do it. She doesn't have that Midas touch. People become interested when actors are in scenes with Chris, and buzz is created. Look at Max, look at Grant, and of course Darren.

If I was Dean Geyer I would be hoping I was in scenes with Chris and his character have a storyline with Kurt.

I want Chris, and that is it. Chris is who I love and who I care about on the show. I have a soft spot for Chord, love Grant and Max, but the rest I don't care about. But I do have respect for Corey.

[ColferInspired]

Prepare to enter the Snark N' Bark thread...

‘Glee’ Season 4: Rachel’s Rude Roommate, Hope for Samcedes and More Spoilers From the Cast


To say the Glee cast has a lot going on would be an understatement. On top of returning to work this week to start production on the fourth season of the Fox musical dramedy, the young cast of the series is also juggling movies, books and recording their own albums.

The Hollywood Reporter caught up with stars Lea Michele, Chris Colfer, Amber Riley, Chord Overstreet and Matthew Morrison as well as exec producer Ian Brennan to get the dish on what’s ahead on Glee — and beyond.

Lea Michele (Rachel)
What’s ahead: Ms. Berry has her hands full with a roommate from hell and a new admirer in Brody Weston (Dean Geyer) whom she meets — wait for it! — in the co-ed bathroom of her dorm, Michele says. “He’s definitely interested in her but I think that she is very hesitant because she doesn’t really know where things stand with Finn; she doesn’t want to make any moves before she knows where they stand and Brody’s not going to give up,” the actress tells THR of her new mentor — who has already performed on Broadway. “He’s like a cross between Jesse St. James and Finn.” Elsewhere, Rachel’s new roommate may not immediately be seen but she’ll most definitely be heard. “You see Rachel for the first time in her bed, covering her ears from the sex noises that her roommate is making and you never see the roommate — as of now — you can just hear her,” Michele says with a smile. “It’s going to be hilarious.”

Cory Monteith (Finn)
What’s ahead: Monteith was a no-show at Fox’s TCA party Monday night but executive producer Ian Brennan says Finn’s status continues to confound his friends when Season 4 picks up. “We start up and no one has heard from Finn, no one really knows where he is; he’s gone off to the Army and that’s all we know,” he notes. “Rachel is sort of forced with the question, ‘Do I move on or don’t I?’ “

Chris Colfer (Kurt)
What’s ahead: Confirmed series regular Colfer has yet to chat with co-creator Ryan Murphy about precisely where Kurt’s story line is headed but knows the basics: “Kurt is going to be mentored by Sarah Jessica Parker and be in Ohio first and eventually get to New York but I don’t know how he’s going to do it,” he offered. As for what Kurt’s exit from Ohio could mean for his relationship with Blaine (Darren Criss), Colfer only knows one thing is certain — he’s glad he’s not writing those scenes. “I’m so glad I’m not the decision maker in that one! I’m a chess piece, I’m not the player. I just hope the girls on Tumblr, Facebook and Twitter don’t get mad at me!” he laughed. As for what he wants to see for his Glee counterpart, Colfer says it’s time for Kurt to smile. “Kurt was so sad last season, he just lost so much — he didn’t get into the school play, he didn’t get into college, he didn’t get to be school president. I just want to see him win a little and be happy.”

Beyond Glee: The Teen Choice Award winner has his hands full at the moment, promoting his film Struck By Lightning over the weekend at Outfest and touring the country to support his young-adult book In the Land of Stories. “I was really nervous no one was going to show up because I’ve never done anything just by my lonesome, I’ve always had my Glee stars with me on those things,” he says. “But it’s been fantastic and selling out some places. I couldn’t be happier.”

Amber Riley (Mercedes)
What’s ahead: While Riley has yet to see a script for Season 4 yet, she’s game for however much the series wants her there — whether it’s for story lines set in L.A. or not. “If it were up to me, I’d see Mercedes pursuing her dreams, where ever it is and if that’s in L.A., I’d be A-OK with it,” she says. As for if the guy who helped get the aspiring singer out to L.A in the first place, Riley is optimistic about a reunion with new series regular Chord Overstreet. “There may be some Samcedes again, who knows!”

Beyond Glee: Riley, who hosts Tuesday’s episode of Oxygen’s The Glee Project, said she was impressed by the skills of all the remaining contestants and noted Ali’s voice gave her “goose bumps.” Elsewhere, Riley’s working — and writing songs! — for her solo album, which she described as “R&B with a pop feel.” “It’s hard to transition from actor to artist, it’s hard to get people to see you in a different light,” she told THR, noting that she and co-star Naya Rivera have been toying with the idea of recording a duet.

Chord Overstreet (Sam)
What’s ahead: The new series regular starts shooting Tuesday and (shocker!) is game for a reunion with former flame Mercedes. “There’s a potential for anything in TV, we will see what happens and see where the writers go with the story. I thought it was endearing that he still cared about her even though they weren’t together,” he told THR of Sam’s romantic gesture that landed Mercedes a gig on the West Coast. As for returning to the depleted choir room, there’s some work to be done after the departures of Rachel and company. “It’s me, Kevin McHale (Artie) and Jenna Ushkowitz (Tina) who are the ones left in the school and we all have to step up,” he offered.

Matthew Morrison (Will Schuester)
What’s ahead: Will has his hands full now that New Directions is a winner. “We’ve never been on top before, it’s always been about molding this group of misfits to come to where we came and now it’s a) how do you stay on top; and b) how do you keep the good spirits that you have and bring it to a new generation of kids?” Morrison told THR. “Glee is now the coolest club at school so everyone is auditioning and it’s hard for me to find people who are actually passionate about performing.” Outside of McKinley, Morrison hopes wedding bells will be ringing during Season 4. “They say it’s in the cards that we’ll have a wedding this year; that’s why I think they’re going to do it — to have everyone come back for it.”

Beyond Glee: Morrison spent the summer vacationing — and in the studio recording his second album of Broadway standards.

Heather Morris (Brittany)
What’s ahead: Morris was also MIA at Fox’s shindig but Brennan says Brittany will be in a strange position having to return to McKinley as a second-year senior after failing to graduate with a 0.0 GPA. “A lot of what that character goes through is that it’s not the greatest thing to be a super-senior, it’s not so super; she’s in a strange position where she’s not like the rest of the kids there but not able to move on,” he says of the one-time class president who is now without her girlfriend, Santana (Naya Rivera), who graduated and went off to college. “She’s stuck in a way and she’s away from the person who has been a huge thing for her for two years now.”

Jacob Artist (Jake Puckerman)
What’s ahead: Artist told THR that he knows Puck’s younger half-brother has an attitude that may hinder his efforts with New Directions, but Brennan hinted that the character’s similarities to Puck (Mark Salling) may end there. “He’s vastly different from any character we’ve had on the show in a really interesting and surprising way,” he says. “There’s great reveals with that character. We might have a star on our hands.”

We were right about Rachel.

Welcome to the Rachel Berry Show.

[Emile]

^Oh! Is that article from the TCA? Mh, it doesn't really say much.

“He’s like a cross between Jesse St. James and Finn.”

Always so original!

As for what Kurt’s exit from Ohio could mean for his relationship with Blaine (Darren Criss), Colfer only knows one thing is certain — he’s glad he’s not writing those scenes. “I’m so glad I’m not the decision maker in that one! I’m a chess piece, I’m not the player. I just hope the girls on Tumblr, Facebook and Twitter don’t get mad at me!” he laughed.

LOL. Poor them, they even need to specify the obvious for the intense shippers.

As for returning to the depleted choir room, there’s some work to be done after the departures of Rachel and company. “It’s me, Kevin McHale (Artie) and Jenna Ushkowitz (Tina) who are the ones left in the school and we all have to step up,” he offered.

No, no one is missing.

[Sani]

As for returning to the depleted choir room, there’s some work to be done after the departures of Rachel and company. “It’s me, Kevin McHale (Artie) and Jenna Ushkowitz (Tina) who are the ones left in the school and we all have to step up,” he offered.

No, no one is missing.

Lol at Chord not mentioning Darren.

[ColferInspired]

This isn't about Kurt, but I didn't know where to put it and spoilers are spoilers:

‘Glee’: New Cast Members Jacob Artist, Dean Geyer on Mohawks and Coming Between Finn and Rachel


The duo talk with THR about performing for Ryan Murphy, chemistery with Lea Michele and what they’d like to see for their new characters.




Gleeks everywhere turned to Google early Monday after Fox announced two fresh faces would be joining the Fox musical’s upcoming fourth seasons in two potentially pivotal roles.

Newcomers Dean Geyer and Jacob Artist became the newest members of the Fox family when they landed parts as Rachel’s (Lea Michele) new love interest Brody Weston and Puck’s (Mark Salling) younger half-brother, Jake Puckerman, respectively.

The Hollywood Reporter caught up with the new Glee guys on Monday at Fox’s All-Star Party at Soho House following the network’s presentation at the Television Critics Association’s summer press tour to chat about auditioning for the series, their hopes for the show and how much they know about what’s to come.



The Hollywood Reporter: Congratulations on the casting, when did you find out?
Jacob Artist: I found out very late last night and I couldn’t tell anybody so I had to sleep on it. Then this morning it was a whirlwind of calling family and friends. It’s all fun and they’re all really excited.
Dean Geyer: I found out this morning, my agent woke me up and apparently I’m working on Friday. I haven’t read the script, I don’t know what I’m doing but it’s very exciting. I’ve never been on a show or a project with a budget like this, with talent like this. I’m looking forward to it because I get to sing and act, which are my two biggest passions. I get to work with really talented actors and it’s only my fifth year of acting and I’m still learning the ropes. I’m really excited.

What was the audition process like?
Artist: I think I came fairly late in the game, it was about two and a half to three weeks ago. I had a callback and then tested last week with Ryan Murphy and all the Fox executives. I was waiting to hear until last night. We had to sing and act and bring in five songs with sheet music because there was a pianist there to accompany us and I had the sides, which I didn’t get until the day before. It was a crazy experience.
Geyer: I screen tested at Paramount and I got to met Lea and she was so sweet. I met her for literally two seconds and we jumped into a scene and she was so easy to work with. It was a chemistry read so there had to be a bit of chemistry there and thankfully there was with us. I actually knew one of the ADs from another show, which was nice getting to see a familiar face.

What’d you sing?
Artist: I sang “Never Say Never” by the Fray, which I was just saying I’d love to sing on the show, it’d be so fun to be able to sing my actual audition song. I had to also bring in Elton John’s “Don’t Let the Sun Go Down On Me,” which I love. I’d love to sing that, too, because it’s such a beautiful ballad and it’s so powerful.
Geyer: I sang an acoustic version of Justin Timberlake’s “Cry Me a River” and “One Song, Glory” from the musical Rent and a Josh Groban song.

You’re playing Puck’s younger half-brother, what’s he like?
Artist: Yes, Puck’s younger half-brother, with a little bit of an attitude, so we’ll see if that gets in the way of him succeeding with the glee club. It’ll be interesting to see how he reacts with everybody else as well to the new kind of Puckerman.

How do you feel about potentially coming between Rachel and Finn and their legions of fans?
Geyer: They’ve been together for what, three seasons now?It’s going to be tough, I know they have a lot of fans. I don’t want to be that person to break them up but at the same time, it’s fun to play someone that creates some sort of tension. I’ve gotten a lot of tweets asking if I’m going to be the dude who breaks them up (laughs). I could be a potential love interest, I could not be!

Brody comes in as a mentor to Rachel, how will he be showing her the ropes?
Geyer: He’s definitely been through the ropes. He’s a couple years older and has done Broadway before and that’s something she really looks up to and is aspiring to. There’s room in there to be a bit of a teacher and mentor rather than a love interest so it could go that way. It’s definitely going to be fun for me since I started out as a musician, I’ve never done Broadway or theater so it’s going to be a new experience for me.

How much do you know about your character’s back story?
Artist: All I know is that he’s a bad boy with a bit of an attitude. But it’ll be fun to see where they decide to go with him.

Coming into a New Directions that’s been depleted a bit. What are you looking forward to bringing to that choir room?
Artist: I was a dancer growing up and I feel like they have so many great dancers like Harry Shum Jr. and Heather Morris, so I think it’ll be fun trying to utilize the dancing and bring that to the table to have another strong dancer with all of them would be cool.

A rival to Brittney?
Artist: Yes! I hear there’s a Britney Spears episode coming up, it’d be fun if I could dance a little with Heather.

Have you spoken with Mark Salling yet?
Artist: I haven’t met him yet. I will soon, hopefully!

Have they spoken with you about adopting Puck’s trademark Mohawk?
Artist: I don’t know yet, I have to see what’s in store with what they have for me. I’ve had the same hair for forever so I think it’d be fun to let them do what ever they want to do with it.

Advice from the cast?
Artist: Just have fun. I’m so grateful and excited to be here, this has all been a huge blessing.

Anything you’d really like to do on the show?
Geyer: I’ve always played nice guys, so I’d love to be someone that creates a bit of confrontation. I know that sounds bad but as an actor, I want to explore different things. I know it’s Glee and more on the happy, hopeful side but I’d love to be that person who creates some tension.

Glee’s fourth season premieres in its new night and time slot on Thursday, Sept. 13 at 9 p.m. What do you think of the newest Glee guys? Hit the comments with your thoughts on how they’ll fit in.

I sort of feel sorry for Darren. It looks like he is no longer the golden boy.

There is no storyline for Blaine, as there isn't for others.

I hope Chris and Ryan talk soon, I want to know what is happening with Kurt.

[Jellyrolls]

As for returning to the depleted choir room, there’s some work to be done after the departures of Rachel and company. “It’s me, Kevin McHale (Artie) and Jenna Ushkowitz (Tina) who are the ones left in the school and we all have to step up,” he offered.

No, no one is missing.

Lol at Chord not mentioning Darren.

NYADA will probably suddenly have a high school program for Blaine to transfer to so that Klaine can stay together in NY.

I love that Chord left Darren out. It's fun for my imagination. hehe.

[Delight]

When Kurt got a 'love interest' that tried to pursue him and 'threaten' Klaine last season, it was a caricature-like character that appeared for less than 2 minutes and was never seen and hardly heard from again.

When Rachel gets a love interest that threatens Finchel, it's by an actor who's at least a recurrent if not a series regular; involved in what looks like a season-long arc.

Figures.

I apologize if I sound bitter. None of these spoilers lift my spirits at all, or make me interested in watching season4 of Glee.

[Sani]

They certainly casted some good looking guys. I hope they can at least act.

And apparently Dean Geyer was in Terra Nova... I guess he wasn't that memorable, cause i don't remember seeing him.

Confirmed series regular Colfer has yet to chat with co-creator Ryan Murphy about precisely where Kurt’s story line is headed

Why i'm not surprised...

[Buenos]

They certainly casted some good looking guys. I hope they can at least act.
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Quote from Geyer: "I get to work with really talented actors and it's only my fifth year of acting and I'm still learning the ropes.

[Divalicious]

Yes, an awful roommate so even Santana looks good-check.

Another guy to drool over Rachel, and her amazing voice/acting/dancing self-check.

Finn waiting in the wings, pining-probably check.

Co-ed bathrooms so Rachel or cute guy can be caught in a towel-check and check.

I feel like the writers are going for the Twilight audience, which is not me. Amazing how they give info endlessly on Rachel, but little on the others. Part of me feels they are trying to drum up some interest, when they should be latching on to all of Chris' book and movie buzz. Or that is the only dreck they feel safe letting out, so less wank occurs-yeah, that is more likely.

If they are playing it like Glee Club is on top, why do they need Kurt to help them bring in singers? Unless he is supposed to help with the auditions. Pitiful use of his time. Yeah, I know, Chris isn't available much for the first episode, but it would seem they could do better than this. Even him working in the garage would be more interesting than listening to other people get to sing on the stage, knowing they will get competitions that he didn't. I guess my only wish in all of this is that Kurt gets a snide remark on maybe they will get to sing, when he didn't. They probably won't even give him that much. Probably the most hurtful thing is they are going to have Kurt bring Wade in, a boy singing girls songs, as a girl, and he will have paved the way for him to get competition solos. And Kurt will have to stand and be proudly happy. That pisses me off so very much.

[Buenos]

Probably the most hurtful thing is they are going to have Kurt bring Wade in, a boy singing girls songs, as a girl, and he will have paved the way for him to get competition solos. And Kurt will have to stand and be proudly happy. That pisses me off so very much.

Knowing this show, they will frame it so that Kurt will be 'proud' of paving the way for Alex, and will sit there listening with rapt attention while Alex sings a solo/lead and then a duet with Blaine in the choir room.

[tanita_mors]

Wow, those new spoilers are SO Kurt relevant that I just don't know how to contain my overwhelming glee.
Also, the new guys look like Chase Crawford and Taylor Lautner.

[BlueJazz]

I apologize if I sound bitter. None of these spoilers lift my spirits at all, or make me interested in watching season4 of Glee.

No need to feel sorry These spoilers have destroyed every tiny expectations I had for S4 before the comic-con. I'm convinced that they'll continue to screw Kurt over, he'll probably pine over Blaine (or maybe wait for him to come to NYC ) even if they break up and he'll not get a new love interest because Chandler will be the best fan-service that we'll ever get. There're other speculations that crossed my mind but I don't have the heart to type them out. Glee S4 will be a shitstorm and now, I'm not even sad that Chris might not be in all 22 eps because that means I'll waste less of my time on watching this trainwreck

[Buenos]

The first photos of the people on set,

http://kurt-blaine.livejournal.com/4550643.html

Seriously, nothing against the actors but that "colorful" group of characters is suppose to sustain our interest in McKinley High School's New Directions.

No Chris, Lea, Cory, Naya or even Mark or Dianna.

Hold back my excitement.

[tanita_mors]

Well, that spells boring to me. I'm right there with you Buenos.

[Divalicious]

Buenos, if you are anything like me, a two year old can hold back your excitement, an invalid platypus, an earthworm. When there is no excitement at all, it doesn't take much to hold it back.

On the other hand, we will get to see Chris in several episodes, we have his movie later, and I am sure he will do audiobooks at least with his second LOS. If Glee won't give us Chris, luckily for us, Chris will give us Chris.

[Ranwing]

I know that the complete lack of spoilers pertaining to Kurt and the overload of Rachel spoilers is wearing on everyone (and I'm no exception). But there's something about this that feels very, very odd. If Rachel is supposed to be the driving force this season (as we're all fearing), does it really make sense for TPTB to have dumped so much information about her storyline before filming even starts.

We know now that Rachel's "mentor" will be a dance instructor that holds her in very low opinion. We know that there will be an upper classman acting in a mentor/romantic vein. We know that she has a roommate that wants to smother her in her sleep. We know that her adjustment at NYADA will be exceedingly difficult as she is now just one of a hundred girls just like her. Basically we have been given the overview of Rachel's entire storyline for what looks like the first half of the season. Why would the show allow that? Why would we get so many spoilers that basically have stripped Rachel's storyline of any real drama or suspence. New guy will show up and we'll all be going "Oh, there's the love interest for the next five minutes". The way they have things set up now, the only real suspence will be in how many solos Rachel will get in each ep, and in the end if she'll survive NYADA at all or end up washing out. These aren't spoilers so much as information dumps, that IMO, will hurt the character since now there are no real surprises left in her storyline.

We're all starving for any word on what they actually have in mind for Kurt as the season progresses. Right now we only know that he will end up in NY at some point and that his mentor will be in fashion. Otherwise... that's it. Everything else is speculation on our parts. But we're interested (and angry and anxious). His story has suspence and mystery and we want to know how it all pans out. Instead of waiting for Rachel's love interest for the season to pop in because we're basically told it's going to happen, we have no clue what twists and turns Kurt's story will be taking. I'm trying not to give in to pessimism (in thinking that because there are no real spoilers that Kurt's story will be neglected) and am hanging on to hope that because they're keeping any real news about what they've got in mind for Kurt under wraps that something very interesting is planned. I've seen this before, where TPTB keep major things that they want to keep quiet away from even the actors until the last minute to avoid being spoiled and it's usually because they've got something very exciting in mind.

So here's hoping everyone. Maybe we might have something worth watchng this season.

[Buenos]

a two year old can hold back your excitement, an invalid platypus, an earthworm.

Are you describing the current choir room line up?

All kidding aside, who in the world thought that Sam, Brittany, Tina , Blaine, Sam make the most scintillating mix of characters? Artie does have some snark, and Sugar shows comic shading, but this isn't overall a group of characters who are intrinsically interesting or dynamic. Most of them are blandly "nice" and the problem with both Brittany and Blaine is that their respective partners brought all the color to their dynamics.
My prediction is that the show is going to backpedal quite quickly from their "McKinley High is still the center of the show" position once they realize they can't generate any interest with this cast.

[Buenos]

Instead of waiting for Rachel's love interest for the season to pop in because we're basically told it's going to happen, we have no clue what twists and turns Kurt's story will be taking.

They cynic in me says it's because they haven't figured out what to with Kurt and given his character the care and attention. It's obvious they never thought through anything about Kurt for the NYADA storyline in Season 3 because what they actually did doesn't make any sense, even for narrative purposes. I don't think they suddenly have changed their MO. They rely on audience goodwill toward Kurt and Chris Colfer's acting skills to maintain him as a "fascinating" character.

WE have details on Rachel because I think she is the one character they've devised what they think is her arc for the year, they've built up a small world around her, the rest of the characters they are going to pull things out of their asses as they go along. I don't think Mercedes andSantana are going to have sets built around them for a fictional Louisville and LA music scene. Kurt is "easy" they keep him in OHio and Lima, and then transport him to NY to Rachel's "apartment set" , ie her support. To me it's pretty obvious that Kurt and Santana are going to end up in NY because they want everyone tethered to Rachel...which means Finn will end up there eventually also .

[Ranwing]

Buenos, I think the other reason that we know so much about Rachel is because Lea Michelle couldn't keep anything on the QT if her life depended on it. Her twitter addiction must be a trial for the show runners because the moment she gets the script, she's blattering about to to anyone who'll listen.

But seriously, I get that it's hard to be optimistic about Kurt's storyline and it's easy to think that he's off the radar as far as the show runners are concerned. But I think that part of the issue is that Chris has been so busy with his own projects outside of glee (unlike Lea Michelle ) that he hasn't been living and breathing every waking moment on going over the script or even worrying so much about it. He wasn't at ComiCon so he wasn't able to answer questions (or deal with Brad directly) about Kurt's future. And it's funny that when either he or Darren are asked directly about what's going on, they both give the same answer... that they haven't seen the script yet.

I'm just not sure if I buy it. Sure, if five eps pass and Kurt is still hanging around the ND rehersal room like some sad ghost of Glee Club Past, I'll agree that the writers are interested in Rachel and Rachel alone and can give up on the show. But I'm going to hold onto hope that they are keeping Kurt's storyline quiet because they do have something interesting in mind. If Kurt wasn't important, they could have tossed him into NYADA (or NYU or other NY school) right off the bat without any fanfare and give Rachel her best gay right where she needs him. But it was significant that they left Kurt's storyline a completely open ended question at the end of season 3 and are keeping any hints of what they've got in mind for him under wraps. You're right that it could be that it's because they really don't have anything in mind and I'll grant that this is a real possibility. But it's equally possible that something interesting is coming down the pike for him.

We'll just have to wait to see. I'm going to hold on to hope as long as I can. And in the meantime, I'm just loving the fact that while Glee gave Chris his jumpstart into an amazing career, that Chris is no longer strictly dependent upon Glee for his success.

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