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Re: 6x03 "Jagged Little Tapestry" Watch & Discussion thread

Post  ChrisColferFan1 on 1/17/2015, 12:49 am

dimpledchris wrote:Wow, what the hell was that episode? No wonder Chris didn't promote it.

Agree,and I would not either if I were him.

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Post  brisallie on 1/17/2015, 12:54 am

Just got home, so I haven't seen the episode. I've read so comments and so far I've to say that I like what Ranwing said, as she said the good and bad things of the episode.

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Re: 6x03 "Jagged Little Tapestry" Watch & Discussion thread

Post  Glorfindel on 1/17/2015, 1:10 am

Santana's rant:
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Kurt, I took what you said to heart, and I thought long and hard about it, and it occurred to me that you may have a point. Maybe Brittany and I are too young to get married. I mean, after all, that’s why it didn’t work out with you and Blaine, right?

Or maybe it didn’t work because you’re a judgmental gerontophile with a mouth like a cat’s ass. Maybe Blaine got tired of hearing a shrill, self-aggrandizing lecture about how you felt the two of you were at the very apex of the gay rights movement every time you so much as cooked macaroni and cheese together. Or farted.

Maybe Blaine didn’t want to be with someone who looks like they just removed their top row of dentures every time they smile, or someone who doesn’t dress like an extra out of one of Andy Dick’s more elaborate wet dreams.

Maybe Blaine grew weary of dating a breathier, more feminine Quinn Fabray. Maybe he finally got freaked out by your strange obsession with old people that causes you to skulk around nursing homes like one of those cats that can smell cancer. Maybe he got tired of watching you drape yourself on every piano you happen past, to entertain exactly no one with, say some song that Judy Garland choked on her tongue in the middle of, or some sassy old Broadway standard made famous by another dead alcoholic crone.

Maybe Blaine woke up one day and said, “you know what, I don’t want to marry a sexless, self-centered baton twirler. Maybe I need someone who knows more than three dance moves: the finger wag, the shoulder shimmy, and the one where you pretend to twirl two invisible rainbow-colored ribbons attached to your hips.”

So you know what, maybe that’s why it didn’t work out. Maybe it has nothing to do with me and Brittany. Maybe it’s just that you are utterly, utterly intolerable.

Maybe that has something to do with it.

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Re: 6x03 "Jagged Little Tapestry" Watch & Discussion thread

Post  Ranwing on 1/17/2015, 1:13 am

I find it really interesting that when Kurt and Blaine reminisce about their past relationship, they really are looking at it from totally different viewpoints over what their relationship is about. It's no wonder that they broke up so spectacularly.

When Blaine thinks about the good times in their relationship, we keep getting reverted back to the Dalton days. Back when he was the big man on campus that everyone looked up to and idolized and Kurt was in a very vulnerable place. And seeing adult Kurt shoved back into that Dalton uniform was probably one thing that bothered me the most because it really reflects that Blaine was never able to deal with the man that Kurt grew into. He keeps wanting to think back to those idyllic first days of their relationship when everything was easy and before it got complicated with rivalries and jealousy and Blaine's infidelity.

Kurt's reminiscences were, like Kurt himself, a lot more complex. He certainly was remembering the good times between them, but he also remembered the bad times as well. Kurt remembers the whole of their relationship, from their meeting to when things went pear shaped between them. He's finding it hard to just walk away from a relationship that he invested so much of himself, but at the same time he's got a much more honest understanding of his relationship with Blaine.

As for Dave... he's got absolutely no place in this storyline. He's barely an accessory for Blaine.

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Re: 6x03 "Jagged Little Tapestry" Watch & Discussion thread

Post  dimpledchris on 1/17/2015, 1:19 am

Everything felt so unbalanced, like the show is either trying too hard or not even trying anymore.

Ranwing wrote:It was a pretty mixed bag as an episode, but one thing is becoming really clear to me. That despite all this Daleastreet bullshit they expected us to swallow, Chris is the male lead of Glee. He's getting the screen time, the POV, the focus... maybe not the song performances that he deserves, but he is not being shoved into the background.

Yes, this exactly. Chris acted his little heart out with the amount of crap that's been handed to him, but it's been really painful to watch.

I've been trying to gif the "You've Got A Friend" part, but watching the performance just makes me sick. The writers fucked up big time with that Santana rant, wooow. Am I supposed to trust that these people are really Kurt's friends with how they're written? UGGGGGH I HATE EVERYTHING.

Ranwing wrote:Nine more episodes of hell to endure.

I bet Chris will throw a party in celebration of his freedom.
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Post  M&M on 1/17/2015, 1:25 am

And I will not be watching this. I was afraid they would go there with his teeth, but hoping they wouldn't. Furthermore, way to attack the actor. RIB are awful. I remember Matt Morrison saying he never had a complex about his hair or how he looked until Glee and that Cory, as I recall was self-conscious about his body.

If RIB are such good writers, why do they have to go for the low blow? Why can't they come up with something more creative?
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Re: 6x03 "Jagged Little Tapestry" Watch & Discussion thread

Post  Divalicious on 1/17/2015, 1:27 am

That is the thing that bugs me about Glee. For "humor" they allow a character sheer paragraphs of verbal abuse, and then just brush it away with a song. Because Santana is mean, to keep it "real". Her saying awful things is okay because she is unhappy. Wait a second, isn't she getting married to her manipulated "true Love" sure. I'll fast forward through the needless lengthy diatribe. Unneeded and unwanted.

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Post  lilypaperclips on 1/17/2015, 1:46 am

I get that Kurt's outburst interrupted a pivotal moment between Santana and Brittany. But the rant by Santana was awful. There was absolutely no excuse for that tonight. Kudos for Kurt being mature enough to realise his mistake. But that rant solidified my total hatred of Santana . No actual friendship would survive a rant like that because there was a malice present in the rant that crossed boundaries. That a writer could think that that was something one could write ...wow is that what is felt about Kurt and by extension Chris?

Would one then go on to share your wedding with someone who would say such things. 


Unpopular view: I liked the 'It's too late duet'.

Did I mention I hate Santana and the asshat writer who authored that rant! orageux2

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Re: 6x03 "Jagged Little Tapestry" Watch & Discussion thread

Post  Ranwing on 1/17/2015, 1:47 am

I would have happily sacrificed any five minutes of the interminable Becky mess to have a scene between Kurt and Santana. Santana might have been justifiably angry with Kurt for dampening the joy over her engagement, but that did not in any way justify her rant to Kurt. She was just ridiculing Kurt and nailing him in all his sensitive spots because she wanted to hurt him. There was nothing that she said that had a remote connection with the truth, but it was all the issues that Kurt was vulnerable over.

Santana deserved an apology for raining on her happy moment, but Kurt also deserved an apology for her lashing into him the way she did.

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Post  brisallie on 1/17/2015, 2:26 am

I'm currently so not in mood, that overall I agree with has been said about tonight episode. I understand if Santana felt angry not everybody supported her, but her outburst toward Kurt I think was too much. She said things that were hurtful and she should had apologized later. Sincerely I feel upset another friendship has been ruined by Glee dryy. By other side, I like Brittany gave Kurt a reasonable advice, was a surprise for me as I expected that something silly was gonna came out from her mouth, but was otherwise.

As for Becky, what was the point to bring her back? to feel bad for her? to add her to ND?


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Post  Delight on 1/17/2015, 2:38 am

The Santana rant is a cesspool of vileness. I have no words.

Seeing that I may be subjected to that scene if I watch the Kurt edits, I think I'll give this episode a miss. I think the writers are determined to make all of Kurt's friends into horrible, horrible people so that Blaine would smell like a rose among them.
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Re: 6x03 "Jagged Little Tapestry" Watch & Discussion thread

Post  Buenos on 1/17/2015, 5:29 am

Chris was AMAZING tonight with his Kurt angst.  Just stunning.

What an actor!

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Post  valkeakuulas on 1/17/2015, 5:48 am

No. Just no.

They are really pushing my buttons right now. I can see where this is heading for Kurt: make him feel useless in everyway...every possible way. No friends, no job, no boyfriend etc. Can't wait to see how they are going to make him fail when he/if he gets to ever date that rumoured middle aged man.

Ugh. Well it's clear Brad hates everyone in Glee that isn't called Rachel or Sam, special hatred is reserved for Kurt I see. And making the happy little bells and ding jingle end Santana's rant... vomit2
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Post  Jellyrolls on 1/17/2015, 7:56 am

The whole Kurt and Santana into action was messed up. I can understand Santana being upset about Kurt speaking out after her proposal, but what he said didn't warrant the vile outburst from here. He didn't completely trash the proposal, he just said "we're too young to get married." Santana's speech went on way to mall. She just completely trashed him, and he had to just sit there and take it. Both Kurt and Rachel were disgusted by Santana's speech, but neither of them had the opportunity to speak up. And then you add in the "get your crap together "sign at the end and it just went way too far to be funny.

On top of that, there was no real resolution between Kurt and Santana. Kurt did apologize to Britney about it, but there was nothing else between Kurt and Santana. The next interaction between them was Santana walking towards Kurt smiling and touching his back while singing "you've got a friend. "It's horrible storytelling. But that's glee.

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Post  Kurt addict on 1/17/2015, 10:10 am

Well I've just watched it! Why I do this to myself I have no idea, but Chris just call me and I resistance is futile. Anyway thoughts, Chris as usual stole the show for me, his acting is so on point, and his singing is something I will really miss when glee is over, if he does go to broadway I am so there.
I didn't think that the writing on this show could get any worse, but I was wrong, that diatribe from Santana was just pure vitriol, so much jealousy, I don't know how either of the actors were so professional, I think I would of walked off set there was no need for any of it. And it made Santana out to be a complete child, maybe that's why she is blaming kurt, cause she's on the same level as Blaine? And don't get me started on the love match that is Blaine and dave as they are moving into together he's casting longing glances at Kurt, boy is that going to go well! Why on earth did Max come back for this fiasco?

O well I will just console myself with the images of Chris in the wonderful clothing choices the wardrobe people give him, especially the painted on trousers, that make those gold pants seem baggy.

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Post  Divalicious on 1/17/2015, 10:57 am

Not that I've mustered the desire to watch this episode, but I kind of wonder with the level of Santana's diatribe if this wasn't a way to get at Naya, who did have an extreme issue with Lea last year. Kind of like, pick on endlessly on a popular character, and while we'll make the Brittana people happy, the rest will be glad to see the last of you soon. I know this is Glee, that goes too far all the time, but even for Santana that was a lot of words for someone simply saying you are too young.

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Post  Ranwing on 1/17/2015, 11:46 am

It certainly looked like they were going after Chris (personally) with that shitty writing and using Naya as the hit man. The scene was really awful but what made it worse was that they didn't have a scene to resolve the conflict between Kurt and Santana. But that's typical of Glee... they're really good at tearing relationships down and awful and rebuilding them in a meaningful way.

I think that what bothers me more is just how many in the fandom really enjoyed watching Santana tear into Kurt like that. I'm not going to argue that she didn't have a right to be angry with him and that I don't like seeing Kurt being in the wrong (because I do enjoy him as a mult-layered character who isn't perfect). But what Santana did was so out of proportion that it's going to be awhile before I want to see them as friends again.

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Post  brisallie on 1/17/2015, 12:45 pm

Ranwing wrote:...

I think that what bothers me more is just how many in the fandom really enjoyed watching Santana tear into Kurt like that. I'm not going to argue that she didn't have a right to be angry with him and that I don't like seeing Kurt being in the wrong (because I do enjoy him as a mult-layered character who isn't perfect). But what Santana did was so out of proportion that it's going to be awhile before I want to see them as friends again.

I've read those comments, and also bothers me some people are so in favor of Santana's outbursting dryy . I knew there are people who dislike Kurt, but didn't expect they were so awful. Still I guess some of them were simply hardcore Santana fans. But poor Kurt, as a fan of him makes me sad seeing how badly he's being treated. And makes me wonder, if writers love to that because Chris is great doing angst scenes or did he do something wrong to the writers? What the hell?

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Post  Ireth on 1/17/2015, 12:48 pm

How f***ed up was this episode?

Chris really delivered, loved his singing, his acting and his portrayal of Kurt's pain.

What I absolutely hated was Santana's Brad Falchuk's vicious attack on Kurt and Chris. It physically hurt me to see that scene. Ugh.

Have a cutie pie to cheer you up:

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Post  angelnessa on 1/17/2015, 1:46 pm

If nothing else, it exposed the people I don't want to be following on Tumblr. I've been unfollowing like crazy since last night. Is this toxic show over yet No .
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Post  ChrisColferFan1 on 1/17/2015, 2:00 pm

I hope the ratings for this episode is worse than last week's ratings. Especially because of Santana's way way over the top insults on Kurt, which really RIBs way of insulting Chris. I hope if they ask Him to work with them again after Glee he turns them down.

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Post  Ranwing on 1/17/2015, 4:53 pm

Well, not everyone found yesterday's treatment of Kurt at all funny. Todd Milliner (Executive Producer of Grimm and Hot In Cleveland who thinks the world of Chris) tweeted this.

"Please save @chriscolfer from Glee, even if there are only a few eps left. We’re sick of Kurt being treated like crap”

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Post  valkeakuulas on 1/17/2015, 4:57 pm

Ireth wrote:

Have a cutie pie to cheer you up:

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Thanks for bringing this here. Makes me smile. Someone should do a little Vine of this with the accompanied chuckle.

That and the horrible joke about Uhaul mounting a moped are the only things I will laugh at. Other than those this episode was like a beginning of a bad relationship/abuse thiller.
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Post  valkeakuulas on 1/17/2015, 4:59 pm

Ranwing wrote:Well, not everyone found yesterday's treatment of Kurt at all funny. Todd Milliner (Executive Producer of Grimm and Hot In Cleveland who thinks the world of Chris) tweeted this.

"Please save @chriscolfer from Glee, even if there are only a few eps left. We’re sick of Kurt being treated like crap”

This makes me even more sad because it has to be a talking point amongst Chris' friends. Hopefully more under the tone of 'how stupid' rather than 'how disgusting towards Chris'.
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Post  ChrisColferFan1 on 1/17/2015, 5:06 pm

If I were Chris I would be hurt of having to stand there and listen to the insults that were mainly about me. If i were Naya I would feel sick having to say those lines to Chris/Kurt. If I were her I would try to get it right the 1st time so I would not have to say those disgusting lines again.

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