Re: Glee season 6 discussion and spoiler thread--Part 1

[Glorfindel]

Puck is back on Glee as well:

@alxanders @MarkSalling Caught you snap chatting.  Good to see you today bro. 

Really, has anyone and their dog been in the Glee studio to record songs except for Chris?


So, all the glee kids come back to Lima to hang out together after having been away and graduated for 2 years? Sure.
Ah well, hopefully we'll get a decent originals group number like 'Homeward Bound/Home' out of this season sux mess.

[Ireth]

http://www.mjsbigblog.com/glee-season-6-song-spoilers-loser-like-me.htm

In the first episode, we have 3 Rachel solos, 1 Blaine+Warblers song, 1 Blahchel duet and 1 VA song. Is anyone surprised?

Ugh they're actually having Rachel sing Let It Go? That's so uninspired. And Karma Chameleon, which is a song I wanted Kurt to sing.

[Ranwing]

I have to admit that I love the title. Since the focus will be heavily on Rachel's crash and burn of a career "Loser Like Me" is more than appropriate. And as predicted, lots of "woe is me" solos for La Berry.

And is it really surprising that all but one song in the episode would be sung by either Rachel or Blaine? Disappointing,  definitely. But not surprising. And I'm totally laughing at the misuse of Let it Go - a song about empowerment in the face of the worst adversity and it's going to be wasted on Rachel just because if Lea's not copying Barbra, she's copying Indina.

The one good thing (and I'm clinging to my silver lining) is that if Kurt isn't singing in an episode called "Loser Like Me" it's because he isn't a loser. He still has NYADA and Broadway and when he comes to Lima, it's going to be as a rising star. So I don't mind him not having a ton of focus here. If anything, I'm expecting him to be there merely as a counterpoint to Rachel - and a bitter reminder to her of what she no longer has.

[Lottie2303]

Can someone explain why we already have so many spoilers? They haven't even started shooting yet and the episodes will be aired next year. Why are they already releasing so many information? I don't get it. It is madness.

Anyhow, no surprises. I also believe Chris will only be around in limited capacity with a few minutes screentime each episode. Season 6 will fail so badly, and I will enjoy every single second of it.

[ColferInspired]

They are trying to get people and the media, but thing is neither are that interested.

These spoilers are putting even more off and many will be sick and tired of Lea's singing if they keep this up.

Many wanted Kurt to sing "Let It Go".

I wanted him to sing it as well.

[ColferInspired]

[ColferInspired]

When you see die hard Klainers that are number fans of Glee, suddenly saying they are sick of Blaine and Rachel, when they defended Blaine for so long and now no longer want him on the screen, should tell you how they ratings will go.  

They hate Glee now and the hate is growing and growing.

[Buenos]

The song spoilers.., meh

What a surprise that with the smallest cast ever the same people are singing most of the songs, I doubt any fans left are surprised or even care anymore...

..,.yawn...

If Glee doesn't get yanked from the schedule after a handful of episodes it would be surprising.

Like Ranwing, I'm glad Kurt isn't listed as a loser this first episode, and I'm sure he will look as gorgeous as ever.

[Ranwing]

I'm not going to worry so much about the first episode as I fully expected Rachel's storyline to dominate after the first spoilers came out. Rachel destroying her own career and coming crawling back to Lima because she doesn't have any other options is an enormous shift and as much as I want Kurt to get featured this season, I'm ok with the first episode being more Rachel heavy. Admittedly, I'm going to get a lot of malicious pleasure watching the girl who left Lima with the support of everyone on a path to sure stardom returning in humiliation due to nothing more than her own behavior and poor decisions. I had always believed that if there was one thing that would prevent Rachel from reaching her goals that it would be Rachel herself so to see that actually happen after she's gotten a real taste of success... yeah, the evil part of me is going to enjoy that.

Kurt's reason for being in Lima is kind of a throwaway but it doesn't prevent him from having a more impactful storyline for himself further into the season. I don't expect it to be a major one, but so long as they don't screw him over and the show ends with Kurt either continuing his NYADA education or finally getting some kind of professional break, I'll be satisfied. My imagination can fill in the rest.

Blaine's reasons for working with the Warblers will likely be the same as Kurt's for being in Lima (for school credit). Admittedly Karma Chameleon is a pretty apt song for the first Warbler's number as Blaine is trying to redeem the choir after their suspension over the steroids use (which is still stupid, but whatever...). But his time commitment to the Warblers seems a lot of intensive than Kurt's with ND. I'm wondering if he's also in a similar situation as Rachel - maybe dropping out of NYADA to pursue the opportunities that June arranged and finding them not as lucrative as expected. And then there is the status of his relationship with Kurt.

Lots of unanswered questions that I'm sure the first episode will answer.

[Buenos]

In the MJ spoiler, "Karma Chameleon" ( for now) is listed as a Rachel number, not a Warbler number.

I do like Rachel coming back to Lima in humiliating fashion.  I sort of expected Rachel to get the lion's share the first episode.

No Klaine duet so I'm guessing that Kurt and Blaine are broken up again.

I dunno, it just seems silly to spend extra money on songs like "Sing" and the Disney "Let it go" by the time the episodes air they won't even be current hits.

[ColferInspired]

If RIB think the audience will pity Rachel and Blaine if they are both losers, they are so wrong.

[Glorfindel]

^Especially not when these 2 'losers' get 99% of the songs and screentime.  

http://www.mjsbigblog.com/glee-season-6-song-spoilers-loser-like-me.htm

In the first episode, we have 3 Rachel solos, 1 Blaine+Warblers song, 1 Blahchel duet and 1 VA song. Is anyone surprised?

Wow, this is so boring. And predictable.
And if it wasn't clear yet after the Blea show of season 5 to most fans it's also very telling as in who of the characters RIB are still interested in.

Watch the ratings crash and burn, Fox, when Glee comes back with nothing for noone in the first episode except for special snowflakes Rachel and Blaine. You neglected to do something about the declinging quality of Glee due to the terrible hack job of RIB as writers/producers for years now. You reap what you sow.



I hate how this first episode full of Blanchel seems to set the standard for the last season (like so many viewers stopped watching after the first episodes of seasons 4 and 5, knowing that what was presented to them then was probably the norm for the entire season, and they were correct), 'cause deep down inside there still was this hope there would still be something worthwhile in B and C-plots for the 2-3 characters I still enjoy in season 6.
Guess not.

Well, like others have said before me: the first episode being Kurt lite probably means that at least Kurt won't be a loser. Not yet, that is.
This is Glee after all: in Glee one cannot win unless someone elses loses, so with Rachel and Blaine being at the bottom now (with Kurt merrily still at NYADA?) there's a very good chance that they'll rise to the top again at the detriment of others, and it wouldn't be the first time (nor the 2nd, nor the 3rd  ) that Kurt will suffer in the process of their new triumphs. But of course he won't get to sing a song like 'Let It Go' about it.

*bitter Kurt stan*

[mindschemez]

Great spoilers I am SO looking forward to heavy Robodog promotion, Robodog's release, some on-set BTS Noel stuffs, and possibly TLOS4 teasing before/as this airs.

[YaoiChick]

Just seeing the song list has made me decide not to watch the first episode, since I don't want to see my favorite song be a gimmick.

[Divalicious]

Sounds like it will take approximately 7 minutes to watch this episode.  Watch a minute, stomach turns, so I will fastforward, rinse and repeat.  The same voices and characters saying and singing the same way for 6 years is a bit much,  I actually feel that Glee will hurt Lea's music career simply for the fact we've heard her voice so very much they will reason why buy something else.  Instead of making her voice a spotlight, they prefer to use all the stars in the sky, it lost it's power for me years ago.  Mainly because she sounds mostly the same way, big breath of air, belts to the backrow.  I actually prefer it the few times she was more mellow.

Blaine, his voice is unexceptional, but he gets poppy tunes, and usually a lot of back up.  Like covering up some dry vanilla cake with frosting and a lot of sprinkles.

Kurt's voice remains like warm honey, rich and glorious.  Accentuated by it's utter rareness, and made even more rare if he actually gets the focus in a duet.  

I may not like Santana, but I do appreciate the different voice she has, and what a way they wasted Tina, who sang with a bell like purity to me.  

I will never understand what Glee is thinking with a focus on such a few characters when they've had an embarrassment of riches for years.

[valkeakuulas]

I'm very worried about Uninvited...I guess it's out of place, no matter how tossed aside Rachel might feel. (I am a Morissette fan and was a serious worshipper in my past because she was my generation female idol...and hers was a first live concert in my life!) I really hate that a song about serious self doubt and pain is placed in a storyline like this.

It would be a terrific storyline if she would be allowed to seriously struggle, but becuse of Glee I doubt her demise will last longer than 15 minutes of the opening episode.

Just to say to add: I would hate this song to be associated to Glee storyline, ever, not even with Kurt. It's a really "aggressive" song.

[ChrisColferFan1]

If RIB think the audience will pity Rachel and Blaine if they are both losers, they are so wrong.

I totally agree. Especially since both of them were presented as special snowflakes in the past

[brisallie]

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I dunno, it just seems silly to spend extra money on songs like "Sing" and the Disney "Let it go" by the time the episodes air they won't even be current hits.

Do you think Glee has the budget to spend on current hits? I think the low cut is one of the reasons why are not chosing 40 tops, I know Let it Go was one of those, but yeah is so 2013.

And speaking of Let it Go, added that I'm in a bitter mood, I think fans should sing "F*ck it all" instead. Is a new version I see once on youtube

[Ranwing]

If RIB think the audience will pity Rachel and Blaine if they are both losers, they are so wrong.

I totally agree. Especially since both of them were presented as special snowflakes  in the past

I think that what's going to keep any sympathy for Rachel (and possibly Blaine) being "losers" in check is when you consider just how many advantages they had been given over the years. And with Rachel especially she's lost everything not because of chance or things beyond her control. She had gained everything she'd ever wanted and had success in her hands, but threw it away because of her bad choices and her inability to control her ambition. Rachel lost everything because of her choices. She made the decision to quit NYADA in the most arrogant manner possible (with her "I don't need this" attitude) that would make it absolutely impossible for her to come back. She made the decision to quit Funny Girl (after getting a very explicit warning about what would happen if she continued to screw around) that made her unemployable on Broadway. And she will have the shoulder the decision to rush off to LA and do a TV show that was a career-destroying flop. Rachel cannot blame anyone but herself for being in the situation.

I'm sure that Rachel will go looking for sympathy from the usual parties who were usually willing to offer it (Schu, Kurt), but for her sake I hope that what sympathy she gets is well tempered with the reminder that she's the only one responsible for her having thrown everything away.

[Jellyrolls]

I can't believe Disney gave them the rights to let it go. The song is just so huge even now. I can't believe they could afford to spend that kind of money.

RIB is just so totally clueless that pushing Darren to the forefront is a huge part of wheat killed the show.

[M&M]

More spoilers from MJ including specifics on Kurt. I won't be watching this travesty. The writers are so original they even have Blaine using Yogi as Karofsky's nickname. LOL! I hare this show.

Beginning round two of the Glee Season 6 spoilers fest! Yesterday, I posted the full list of song spoilers, plus production credits, for the Glee Season 6 premiere “Loser Like Me.”

Glee Season 6 Spoilers: Premiere Title and FULL Song List!

Now today, I bring you episode details! I tried to answer the most pressing questions fans of the show wanted answered. Once again: Don’t shoot the messenger! And, if you use my spoilers I would like a credit as mjsbigblog.com AND a link bank.

Enjoy! Or maybe not.

Glee Season 6 Spoilers Loser Like Me

   The time frame is fall. As I mentioned in my last spoiler post, there is a 6 month-ish time jump between season 5 and season 6.
   Rachel, Blaine, Kurt, Sam, Figgins, Will, Sue, Karofsky, and some others I’ll mention in a bit, ARE in this episode.
   Artie, Mercedes, Santana  are NOT in the episode.
   Rachel’s pilot goes to series, but it bombs. The show is quickly cancelled. The fallout renders her Hollywood career dead in the water. Having burned her bridges on Broadway she has nowhere to go. She ends up moving back home.
   Rachel  finds out that her dads are divorcing. Hiram has moved out. Leroy, who is in the episode, is the dad left at home.
   Rachel , still dismayed that Principal Sue disbanded the Glee club, goes above her head to the Lima school superintendent. She convinces him to revive the McKinley glee club by offering to fund it with her remaining TV money.  He insists she be the director.
   Blaine and Kurt are already broken up when the episode begins.
   Backstory:  After Blaine moved back into the loft, the couple continued to argue.  Kurt decided they were too young to be engaged and broke it off. Upset after the breakup, Blaine allowed his grades to slip and was cut from NYADA.
   In the episode, Blaine has already moved back in with his parents to regroup, and has taken a job at Dalton as the director of The Warblers.
   After months apart, Kurt changes his mind about Blaine and heads back to Lima to try and get him back.  But too late because…
   Blaine and Karofsky are a couple. They are dating. They even have pet names for each other. Yogi Bear and Boo Boo. And yes, I did throw up in my mouth a little when I heard that.
    Karofsky is a college student and totally out as a gay man.
   Blaine tells Kurt he’s dating Karofsky.
   After Kurt arrives in Lima, Rachel convinces him to run Glee club with her.  He remains a NYADA student, taking the job as an intern.
   Figgins is a part-time barista at the Lima Bean
   Sam works for Coach Beiste.  He is an assistant football coach at McKinley
   Artie is still in film school. Mercedes is still on tour with Santana and Brittany.
   New kids, Roderick, the nerd, and Spencer, the cocky gay football player, appear in the episode.
   Will is the director of Vocal Adrenaline.
   We’ll get to see Rachel’s pilot. It’s called “That’s So Rachel”
   No Glee club tryouts yet.

The Karofsky spoilers are KILLING ME. I’m happy Max Adler is returning to play the role, but pairing him up with Blaine is just a cheap way to cause controversy and create drama. Also, the idea that all of the graduates return to Lima and wind up working at respective high schools is ridiculously contrived. Glee never managed to work it’s way out of the creative hole it painted itself into when the stars of the show graduated high school at the end of season 3. I’m sure I’ll have more thoughts on this later.

http://www.mjsbigblog.com/glee-season-6-spoilers-loser-like-me-details.htm

[TimF]

The only positives I see from these spoilers are that Kurt had the common sense to end the engagement and is still a NYADA student. Perfect series finale for me.  The rest doesn't exist as I don't care about and won't watch it anyway.

[Buenos]

NGL

I loooooove these spoilers, in a glorious fascinating road kill kind of way.

Kurt broke off their engagement because they continued to fight and then decides to try to get back with Blaine only to find out that Blaine and Karofsky are a couple with "cute" names for each other????

You could not make up this shit!!

It's beyond epic....

[Ranwing]

Kurt and Blaine ending their engagement and breaking up and it's Kurt's decision? Excellent. Best outcome I could have possibly wished for. And Blaine getting expelled from NYADA and returning to Ohio a "loser"? Icing on the cake.

As for Blaine and Dave... I feel sorry for Dave. That he's a good looking college student and he's attaching himself to this lox. I'm going to cling to the lifeline Max and thrown me that things aren't what they appear because while I know that Dave has been through a lot, for him to tie himself to the Grease Stain after having been in love with the epitome of male physical beauty is just... ick. Said it before... Dave deserves better. That Kurt changes his mind, hopefully seeing this kind of grossness will finally shake him out of his Stockholm Syndrome. But it seems to me like the whole Blainofsy thing is just there to make Kurt jealous so that he'll take Blaine back (or to pay Kurt back for ending their engagement).

Anyway.... KURT IS FREE! He's shed the Ring of Sauron! RUN KURT! Run back to NY and Adam, Elliot and all the hot NY gay club guys who wanted to get with you. Any of them would have been a better option.

As for the rest... Dalton is one of the top prep schools and the best that they can come up with for a musical director is a college washout? Ditto for New Directions. Most if this is just really, really stupid.

[Glorfindel]

OMFG, what a gigantic trainwreck.  

So Blaine is so heartbroken after Kurt ends the engagement that he lets his grades slip and flunks NYADA (weak, whiny bastard of a drama queen: look at how Kurt overcame everything that happened to him at a much younger age, and RIB still want us to believe Blaine is the alpha gay, ugh), but within a few months time he's already over it and happy in another relationship, with cute nicknames and all. Right.......
"Yogi" and "Boo Boo".....

And even though I'm sure they never wanted Dave as Blaine's new bf the Klainers still are getting what they screamed for: a real midgame relationship for Blaine and Kurt trying to win Blaine back "for a change".

Along with Rachel's TV show failing this is blatant fan pandering again (many people expressed their opinion last season of wanting to see Rachel fail big time), although the writers of course manage to screw that up too by their incompetence.

Even poor Hiram and Leroy aren't safe.

The only positives I see from these spoilers are that Kurt had the common sense to end the engagement and is still a NYADA student. Perfect series finale for me.  The rest doesn't exist as I don't care about and won't watch it anyway.

Perfect plan.

I also don't want to watch Kurt begging Blaine to come back to him, nor the inevitable kledding in the last episode. What a way to punish Kurt (and Chris imo).
Lord knows it's only my love for Chris that made me deal with this pile of dung for so long as it is already. But I'm apparently still too attached to my favorite character of a show I once used to love and which meant a lot to me a few years back. Which is also why this all keeps making me so angry, I guess. And sick to my stomach.

But maybe for season 666 I'll finally resort to Kurt edits only, or (when there's too much Blaine and Rachel even in the Kurt edits) maybe just the gifs and songs. I'll try not to be bothered with the context of any songs or scenes of Kurt in the show: I'll just enjoy the pretty of Chris, and savour the few minutes of him we'll get.
in the mean time I'll just keep repeating in my head that it's only a few months more, and then we'll get 'Robodog', and spoilers for 'Noel', and TLoS4, and Chris said he has more projects lined up for the next 5 years.


I couldn't care less for Glee anymore, but I also can't let it go (oh, the irony of that word choice ) and enjoy seeing RIB destroy their show in a spectacular fashion: they had something great in their hands and they didn't respect it nor the people who created it with them, but they tore it apart just because their egos were bigger than their talents.
Most of the Glee cast is amazing and they don't deserve this.

And I can't help wonder about what Chris must think of all of this. I'm pretty sure this is not what he wanted for Kurt at all, when he talked about wanting Kurt to find validation and happiness within himself, by himself, not by or for someone else, and not him only being the (lesser) half of a ship.
If my stomach is upset about all of this, just imagine what Chris must feel. Plus he'll have to act it out for the next few months. And I bet he won't get many songs to compensate for the horrid storyline.
At least he'll get paid for it, but he must be frustrated as an actor (and writer).

Bah, I really hate RIB.

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