Re: Kurt Hummel Snark & Bark Thread--Part 9

[MoviesAreLife]

If they are really breaking them up can't they at least do it properly.  We never saw their relationship develop and now even the end of it will be off screen.

It's not fair. No actual romance, no dating scenes, no hints of a sexual life (unless you read between the lines) and now no onscreen break-up.

[MoviesAreLife]

I believe that paparazzi have to be called in Paris. After Princess Diana died being chased by paps, the laws got more stringent (any French posters here?). Thus, if Chris and Will didn't call that videographer, who followed them all over, it would be illegal.

I think that they called that videographer and used Paris as a way to introduce themselves as a couple. It was strategic.

Wow...there's a thought....  

[Lottie2303]

I believe that paparazzi have to be called in Paris. After Princess Diana died being chased by paps, the laws got more stringent (any French posters here?). Thus, if Chris and Will didn't call that videographer, who followed them all over, it would be illegal.

I think that they called that videographer and used Paris as a way to introduce themselves as a couple. It was strategic.

That is actually very interesting. So it was actually planned. Why not? It was a very nice confirmation without the need of official releases or interviews  

[Lottie2303]

If they are really breaking them up can't they at least do it properly.  We never saw their relationship develop and now even the end of it will be off screen.

It's not fair. No actual romance, no dating scenes, no hints of a sexual life (unless you read between the lines) and now no onscreen break-up.

Thank God for FF's. Especially as many writer in the fandom are ten times better writers than the professional ones.

[MoviesAreLife]

What IF all this Blarren overload in the first few episodes is because, yeah, they are transitioning the show from Lima and  towards NY... and Blaine ISN'T going with it?

Ryan did say last year that he 'never said Blaine was going to NY'. I always thought it was such an odd thing to say when just about everyone assumes Blaine would be.

Maybe all the Blaine, Blaine, Blaine of S4 too was just a 'parting gift' to the Blainers/Klainers? Fox/RIB have to have seen the ratings/itunes numbers and that Darren/Blaine actually AREN'T an asset to the show and any desired profit, rather a liability.

Fans/viewers have been leaving in droves or at least voicing annoyance (and/or the threat of leaving) in ever growing numbers with Blaine/Klaine.

If Glee is shifting from Lima to NY, or at least adjusting focus towards NY, it's from fan/viewer outcry of dislike for the noobs/McKinley and preference for NY (and the ratings support it). AND in those complaints were also a deluge of "Enough Blaine/Klaine!"

Adam Lambert is apparently for NY and KURT. They're constructing quite a lot of new NY sets. And casting for new characters mostly seem destined for the NY side.

(Also, Ryan nor Brad have EVER said Klaine was "endgame". It's Klainer interpretation and assumption. What if he hasn't because they really AREN'T and Ryan/Brad actually hate the endgame concept as much as we do? (Apparently Ryan's notorious for screwing with assumed "endgame" couples on his other shows.))

Adam/Oliver's return or NOT hasn't been addressed either way... AT ALL. So, much like Grant, who we only heard about his return at the very last minute, the same could be for Oliver.

Plus RIB pretty much MUST keep Adam/Oliver returning (or not) hush-hush more than anyone because of the shitstorm his return would cause with k(B)lainers, and they'd rather keep them strung along as long as possible...

And if NOT, they can string US along. Look how they played the Finale: Adam/Kadam's status vague enough that both sides were hopeful. Yet they DID mention him and there was Kurt's Klaine-shade of "oh, we're not a couple" :sips tea:

So... maybe it's just "darkest before the dawn"?  

I really love your mindset. I'm going to cling to this as long as possible....

[MoviesAreLife]

If they are really breaking them up can't they at least do it properly.  We never saw their relationship develop and now even the end of it will be off screen.

It's not fair. No actual romance, no dating scenes, no hints of a sexual life (unless you read between the lines) and now no onscreen break-up.

Thank God for FF's. Especially as many writer in the fandom are ten times better writers than the professional ones.

YES!

[ChrisColferFan1]

If they are really breaking them up can't they at least do it properly.  We never saw their relationship develop and now even the end of it will be off screen.

It's not fair. No actual romance, no dating scenes, no hints of a sexual life (unless you read between the lines) and now no onscreen break-up.

Thank God for FF's. Especially as many writer in the fandom are ten times better writers than the professional ones.

YES!

I agree,

[AnneNeville]

I believe that paparazzi have to be called in Paris. After Princess Diana died being chased by paps, the laws got more stringent (any French posters here?). Thus, if Chris and Will didn't call that videographer, who followed them all over, it would be illegal.

I think that they called that videographer and used Paris as a way to introduce themselves as a couple. It was strategic.

That is actually very interesting. So it was actually planned. Why not? It was a very nice confirmation without the need of official releases or interviews  

And weren't their first photos together at Disneyland-France?

[MoviesAreLife]

Klaine-stans love to mock Oliver and how he didn't make an impact on the fans. But is that true? For how little screentime he has had, hasn't Adam made an impact? Hasn't Kadam actually been a well-liked ship (I follow a limited number of people)?

I would like to be optimistic. It's more fun than pessimism.

The Klainers are very threatened by Kadam. If Kadam/Adam was really as much of a dud as they say, they wouldn't have to shout it from the rooftops, would they? They sound insecure. Same thing when Lea lovers HATED Lindsay and loathed her with a passion. If there wasn't a legit threat there, they would not have felt so threatened. I remember lots of people "jumping ship" from Klaine to Kadam when Adam first appeared.

[MoviesAreLife]

I believe that paparazzi have to be called in Paris. After Princess Diana died being chased by paps, the laws got more stringent (any French posters here?). Thus, if Chris and Will didn't call that videographer, who followed them all over, it would be illegal.

I think that they called that videographer and used Paris as a way to introduce themselves as a couple. It was strategic.

That is actually very interesting. So it was actually planned. Why not? It was a very nice confirmation without the need of official releases or interviews  

And weren't their first photos together at Disneyland-France?

I thought their first photos together were from Halloween when Chris was in that sexy costume of his.

[AnneNeville]

I believe that paparazzi have to be called in Paris. After Princess Diana died being chased by paps, the laws got more stringent (any French posters here?). Thus, if Chris and Will didn't call that videographer, who followed them all over, it would be illegal.

I think that they called that videographer and used Paris as a way to introduce themselves as a couple. It was strategic.

That is actually very interesting. So it was actually planned. Why not? It was a very nice confirmation without the need of official releases or interviews  

And weren't their first photos together at Disneyland-France?

I thought their first photos together were from Halloween when Chris was in that sexy costume of his.

I didn't think the Disneyland ones were intentionally released to introduce Will, but that those were where Will was first spotted and identified (thus the Chrisneyland tags?).

[MoviesAreLife]

Finn, like Blaine (though perhaps to a lesser extent), was always explicitly treated as a hero, and his behavior is often atrocious.

But even Finn has this sincere, endearing quality about him...like he actually means well. (I also feel this way about Rachel....I feel she means well, which is why I like her). But Blaine? He's so....smarmy.

[MoviesAreLife]

I believe that paparazzi have to be called in Paris. After Princess Diana died being chased by paps, the laws got more stringent (any French posters here?). Thus, if Chris and Will didn't call that videographer, who followed them all over, it would be illegal.

I think that they called that videographer and used Paris as a way to introduce themselves as a couple. It was strategic.

That is actually very interesting. So it was actually planned. Why not? It was a very nice confirmation without the need of official releases or interviews  

And weren't their first photos together at Disneyland-France?

I thought their first photos together were from Halloween when Chris was in that sexy costume of his.

I didn't think the Disneyland ones were intentionally released to introduce Will, but that those were where Will was first spotted and identified (thus the Chrisneyland tags?).

Perhaps? I don't know. It's been so long, it's hard to remember. What about the one where Chris and Will were just posing a little bit too close to be considered cousins (but that didn't stop the CrissColfer morons from calling them kissing cousins anyway).

[Lottie2303]

I meant as, the second trip to Paris was Chris official introduction as being in a relationship. Even though SAG spoke volumes... still, many claimed Will is only an assistant.

The first pics of Will are from Halloween and Disneyland was the first time fans actually noticed and talked about him.

[AnneNeville]

Finn, like Blaine (though perhaps to a lesser extent), was always explicitly treated as a hero, and his behavior is often atrocious.

But even Finn has this sincere, endearing quality about him...like he actually means well. (I also feel this way about Rachel....I feel she means well, which is why I like her). But Blaine? He's so....smarmy.

Yes, Cory had a more likable energy for many of us. He did cross over into super-creepy in his last episodes, with his "endgame" comments to Rachel and his beating up of Brody. In that hotel scene, Finn looked like Jack Nicholson in The Shining. Gave me shivers. And then the line "Get away from my future wife!" . . . they were taking his character down a bad path.

[AnneNeville]

I meant as, the second trip to Paris was Chris official introduction as being in a relationship. Even though SAG spoke volumes... still, many claimed Will is only an assistant.

The first pics of Will are from Halloween and Disneyland was the first time fans actually noticed and talked about him.

Ah! I see. I'm pretty against RL shipping, and really didn't pay attention to who Chris's friends, publicists, and other relationships until I ran into the crisscolfer craziness.

[MoviesAreLife]

Yes, Cory had a more likable energy for many of us. He did cross over into super-creepy in his last episodes, with his "endgame" comments to Rachel and his beating up of Brody. In that hotel scene, Finn looked like Jack Nicholson in The Shining. Gave me shivers. And then the line "Get away from my future wife!" . . . they were taking his character down a bad path.

I hated that SO much!

[Lottie2303]

Yes, Cory had a more likable energy for many of us. He did cross over into super-creepy in his last episodes, with his "endgame" comments to Rachel and his beating up of Brody. In that hotel scene, Finn looked like Jack Nicholson in The Shining. Gave me shivers. And then the line "Get away from my future wife!" . . . they were taking his character down a bad path.

I hated that SO much!

Dito. So agreed!

[MoviesAreLife]

SippyCupOfLuv, your genius idea that Glee is going the dark, satire comedy route is delicious. The idea that all of this Klaine/Blaine/Darren worshipping BS is just one giant reverse-psychology plan to actually undermine Blaine/Klaine/Darren is beautiful. Why do you not write for Glee?

[MoviesAreLife]

Yes, Cory had a more likable energy for many of us. He did cross over into super-creepy in his last episodes, with his "endgame" comments to Rachel and his beating up of Brody. In that hotel scene, Finn looked like Jack Nicholson in The Shining. Gave me shivers. And then the line "Get away from my future wife!" . . . they were taking his character down a bad path.

I hated that SO much!

Dito. So agreed!

Actually, all of the endgame couples had characters acting like creepy assholes all in the name of "luuuuuuuv!!!!1"

The main straight couple (Finchel): "It doesn't matter where you go, who you date....we're endgame. I know it, you know it. Forever.", "Stay away from my future wife!!!" Beating up Brody and threatening him.

The token gay guy couple (Klaine): Blaine planning to propose to the boy whom he cheated on, who broke up with him, who is seeing someone else. Trying to trap him into a "together, forever!!!1" relationship after they hooked up on Valentine's Day even when Kurt said it didn't mean anything and he initially agreed. Ignoring Kurt's blatant "We're not a couple" mindset and insisting that they are one.

The token lesbian couple (Brittana): Santana setting Brittany free because the LDR was just too hard for either of them to handle and they were bound to cheat sooner or later. Telling Brittany it was okay to move on. Then, when Brittany finally does move on, Santana goes apeshit and comes back to Lima to try to make Brittany jealous with Elaine. She demands to know why Brittany moved on with Sam of all people, and she has the nerve to get angry that her ex-girlfriend (the girl SHE broke up with) didn't tell her about Sam. She treats Sam and Brittany both like garbage, and she treats Brittany as a person who does not have the right to make up her own damned mind about who she loves. She treats Brittany as her property and territory to "reclaim", and this is just wrong on so many levels. Kudos to Brittany for finally standing up for herself.  

The only reason RIB let Brittana finally die was because of Heather pregnancy, and they are going to have to let Finchel die because of Cory. This leaves me feeling pessimistic about Klaine.

[arina]

Finn was often very terribly written, while today Murphy doesn't seem to care about Kurt and even Rachel today it was obvious in the past they were his favorites while Cory got the worst material to work with. If it wasn't for Cory's approach of this role, his wonderful performance, I doubt Finn would be one of my favorite characters, quite the opposite.

[brisallie]

After reading how insane was turning Brittana and Finchel relationship, but due to personal circumstances, one of them very pitiful , both couples split definitely. I thought that it should happen something important to either Chris or Darren, if we want to see Klaine separate for awhile. But nothing tragic o.o

Probably I should rip off these thoughts I'm having.  

[MoviesAreLife]

After reading how insane was turning Brittana and Finchel relationship, but due to personal circumstances, one of them very pitiful , both couples split definitely. I thought that it should happen something important to either Chris or Darren, if we want to see Klaine separate for awhile. But nothing tragic o.o

Probably I should rip off these thoughts I'm having.  

Agree! Guys can't get pregnant, and I sure as hell do not want anyone to die no matter how much I hate Klaine. Maybe someone will quit? If Darren quits, all of our problems as Kurtsies will be solved! If Chris quits, we'll miss our weekly dose of Kurt and Chris and we'll miss Kurt Hummel, but Chris will be free from this sinking ship (both Klaine and the show) and will be free of the parasite of Blarren and will be free from the idiot Klainers and CrissColfers. He'll be free to tackle his own stuff and to become the next Orson Welles.

But they are both tied to seven year contracts, so.....

[AnneNeville]

After reading how insane was turning Brittana and Finchel relationship, but due to personal circumstances, one of them very pitiful , both couples split definitely. I thought that it should happen something important to either Chris or Darren, if we want to see Klaine separate for awhile. But nothing tragic o.o

Probably I should rip off these thoughts I'm having.  

Agree! Guys can't get pregnant, and I sure as hell do not want anyone to die no matter how much I hate Klaine. Maybe someone will quit? If Darren quits, all of our problems as Kurtsies will be solved! If Chris quits, we'll miss our weekly dose of Kurt and Chris and we'll miss Kurt Hummel, but Chris will be free from this sinking ship (both Klaine and the show) and will be free of the parasite of Blarren and will be free from the idiot Klainers and CrissColfers. He'll be free to tackle his own stuff and to become the next Orson Welles.

But they are both tied to seven year contracts, so.....

Even if Darren could just quit, why would he? What's he got to go to?

[MoviesAreLife]

I don't know. More Harry Potter the Musical crap? Wishful thinking.

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