Re: Kurt Hummel Spoiler Thread - part 12

[brisallie]

Yeah, they are wasting him because they want to pump up their other guys/McKinley. :-( Oddly enough, one of the few choir guys whose reactions catch my eye now is Joe Hart.

Is that because he's been absent for weeks? I know some people that have asked for Joe.

And I've listened to At the Ballet, and overall I liked, at least I didn't change the song before it ended. But also I'm agree that Naya sounds out of place, for me is like a jazz singer singing a Broadway song and is an uncommon combination to me. But still I'll wait the performance and see if she convinces me with her emotion. To sum up, this song is Naya/ SJP duet with the help of Lea/Chris in the chorus.

On a side note: something that I can be thankful of Glee, is that it helps me to appreciate Broadway songs. Before of this I never was interested on it.

[AnneNeville]

^Yes, it is. It is nothing but a false rumor. And it has been used and continues to be used as a 'weapon' in the big argument why the noobs and Blam get so much this year in comparison to NY. The Lima lovers elsewhere are saying that NY getting so little is Chris' and Lea's own fault, because they asked for less screentime (same for Cory, btw) themselves.
I really hate that, because it suggests that Ryan wanted to write for them but got rejected, when in fact Ryan just loves the noobs and Blam (or the illusion that his writing is the best of Glee and not the original cast).

Lea, nor Chris, nor Cory (nor Mark, Harry and Naya) ever asked for less screentime, at least nothing got out publicly that they did or suggests they did. It is no secret that Dianna and Amber wanted out, and they got less, but so did the others (get less).
And then there's Kevin and Jenna, who were in it from the start as well. They were just as tired as the other original cast members after season 3 (and they all complained about being exhausted after 3 seasons of shooting and 2 summer tours), yet they still have to work many hours, sitting in the choir room, without getting sufficient screentime and songs in return for their efforts.

You're right. That misconception is problematic. I will make sure not to postulate that anymore.

[brisallie]

To be honest, I dislike so much that theory that Chris, Lea,Naya and Cory have asked for less screen time. I know they might have been busy with their personal projects, especially Chris, but all of these years they have handled very well how to organize their time. So why this year would be the exception? I only understand Cory's situation, because we know it was beyond he could be able to handle, but only that. And as regard Mark, Amber and Harry, I'm not clear how it were their negotiations, and Dianna is the only one being rumoured she wants to leave Glee.

[glimmerle]

I don’t believe the argument ‘Chris asked for it’ for even a second. Sure, he most likely asked for some free time as he worked 24/7 for the last years, but he most certainly did not demand to get written of the show. He is ambitious, driven and talented. Don’t tell me he doesn’t want to win another major award, which only can happen by being on the show! Don’t tell me he doesn’t care about Kurt that he happily accepts him to be Rachel hand-bag, him never getting any professional recognition in NYADA and him just existing nowadays as boyfriend and not individual. Especially Chris, who if given the chance, most likely would destroy the concept of ‘endgame’ within seconds.

I mean nowadays we are lucky to see him more than 2 minutes per episode! Specifically because the lion share of scenes responsible for his full schedule during the last years were because of the choir room scenes. Kurt being a graduate, he automatically misses those scenes. It is just pure ignorance and arrogance by the writers and FOX to assume that a) they can create pre-determined stars; and b) throw their cash cows and biggest talents under the bus (that includes Naya and partly Lea).

Mind you, Naya is the female actress who suffered the same fate. Both are fan favorites. Both started as secondary/background characters. Both developed a major fanbase all by themselves. They were never supposed to be the stars and the audience decided to go against the proclaimed stars (i.e. Quinn) and rather chose those two. Naya and Chris have major fanbases who are very dedicated. I will never, ever understand why they happily focus on Marley (especially because everyone seems to hate her) while Kurt/Santana are treated like bastards this season. There is simply put no logical explanation which will explain this decision making.

ALL. OF. THIS. Especially the bolded.
I could rant a wall of text about this, but you and others like Glorfindel already expressed my thoughts very well.

[Glorfindel]

Wow, 'At The Ballet' is the best selling song of the episode so far!
I didn't expect that, because it's a musical song (and not a very accessible musical song at that), while the other songs are (still) popular golden oldies, especially the Queen song, and they feauture the popular by the teenagers (who buy iTunes songs) guys.

931. At the Ballet (and it is #228 on the iTunes pop chart)
1048. We Will Rock You
1067. Longest Time
1208. Everybody Hurts
1399. You've Lost That Lovin' Feelin'

[Lottie2303]

Ha, that is a very, very happy surprise. I wonder how long RIB will continue to ignore the very obvious demand for NYC and all its characters (not just Rachel).

That reminds me, does anyone know how well the Original Songs sold last week? Everyone seemed to hate them (incl. me). I'd like to know the overall profit .

[Glorfindel]

^Here's the highest they got (after the episode aired):

89. Next To Me
90. Outcast
98. You Have More Friends Than You Know
149. Don't Stop Believin' (Rachel Solo Audition Version)
396. Fight For Your Right (To Party)

Not bad, but Lea and Idina still beat them.

[Lottie2303]

^Here's the highest they got (after the episode aired):

89. Next To Me
90. Outcast
98. You Have More Friends Than You Know
149. Don't Stop Believin' (Rachel Solo Audition Version)
396. Fight For Your Right (To Party)

Not bad, but Lea and Idina still beat them.

Mmmh, that is actually much better the expected. Didn't think they'd crack the Top 100. Maybe the GA is more accepting of the Newbies than I believed so far?!

[Glorfindel]

^This was only a temporary placing in the charts (their highest place). It doesn't mean they will be on the Billboard hot 100.
But yeah, they did better than I expected. Still, Glee is not getting the same sale numbers they got in the earlier seasons by a long shot.

[sheny]

[Zap2it.com] 10 Spoilers: Glee

“Glee”: Episode 422 — the Regionals episode — will turn the glee gang on its head in more ways than one. You already know that Blaine is proposing to Kurt — but additionally, a series regular will be saying goodbye to Lima. Here’s what we can tell you for sure: it’s not Finn (Cory Monteith). As previously reported, Monteith will be absent from the last two episodes of the season, but the intention is for his character to return in Season 5.

[fantastica]

i bet my cat that the one leaving is heather/brittany.

[ChrisColferFan1]

[Zap2it.com] 10 Spoilers: Glee

“Glee”: Episode 422 — the Regionals episode — will turn the glee gang on its head in more ways than one. You already know that Blaine is proposing to Kurt — but additionally, a series regular will be saying goodbye to Lima. Here’s what we can tell you for sure: it’s not Finn (Cory Monteith). As previously reported, Monteith will be absent from the last two episodes of the season, but the intention is for his character to return in Season 5.

I hope Blaine is not propsing to Kurt.If he is I hope Kurt says no. I wish it was Darren Criss leaving Glee.

[fantastica]

if any of you want to reference what kurt hummel was wearing in which episode, our Ivana (Tanita-mor) owns a special kurt hummel outfit thread, and every outfits he wears on the show is displayed in a composition for each episode: https://chriscolferfanforum.forumotion.com/t78-kurt-hummel-outfits

you can easily find out which outfit or hat has been worn when and where.

thanks Ivana!

[Divalicious]

Well, someone leaving Lima only means they won't be in Lima, it doesn't indicate if they are leaving the show period. It could just be the incredibly surprising spoiler that Blaine goes to NY, thus leaving Lima. Of course, what I am really hoping is he goes to NY to try and woo Kurt back from Adam. Which of course would mean Adam would be in season 5, and that is what I am wishing for at this point. We know we are going to have Klaine shoved down our throats, and before Kurt is sacrificed to the altar of Blarren stans, I want Kurt to finally get his "oh my god, when did he get so sexy" storyline.

[Glorfindel]

i bet my cat that the one leaving is heather/brittany.

There are rumors that it will be Matt/Mr. Shue. But who knows?

I think Heather's pregnancy was so unexpected they did not make plans for her yet, or at least not incorporated them in the season finale's plans, plus I also don't think she would get a fanfare like all these spoilers about a character leaving. Harry, Amber and Dianna all left very quietly when they graduated (even though they are trotted back out every once in a while). So I don't think they mean Heather/Brittany with these spoilers.
Heather/Brittany will probably leave too, or only get guest status next season. But first she has to pop out that baby in the fall/winter before she can go back to Glee, if she goes back at all.

[brisallie]

Wow, 'At The Ballet' is the best selling song of the episode so far!
I didn't expect that, because it's a musical song (and not a very accessible musical song at that), while the other songs are (still) popular golden oldies, especially the Queen song, and they feauture the popular by the teenagers (who buy iTunes songs) guys.

931. At the Ballet (and it is #228 on the iTunes pop chart)
1048. We Will Rock You
1067. Longest Time
1208. Everybody Hurts
1399. You've Lost That Lovin' Feelin'

This's surprising. I didn't expect the song was going to sell so well, because teenagers are not into musical songs, for me Glee is currently targeted to teens. But anyway, I'm glad.

I forgot to say that I liked both We Will Rock You and Longest Time, and made me realize how much I miss Kevin voice too. He's also someone who's being wasted.

[sheny]

AUDIO CLIPS for 4x20

• 
  The power is back on, but Will wants to the glee club to realize that their voices are the only instruments that truly matter.

• The lights go out at McKinley High giving Mr. Schuester an idea for a glee club theme. Unplugged Week.

• Will Schuester is checking out the competition for regionals and discovers that they have a problem. Her name is Frieda Romero. (American Idol Season 11 runner up Jessica Sanchez guest stars.)

[Divalicious]

AUDIO CLIPS for 4x20

• 
  The power is back on, but Will wants to the glee club to realize that their voices are the only instruments that truly matter.

I find this hilarious, as they are a GLEE club, which traditionally means they sing. What should matter, Tubas?

• The lights go out at McKinley High giving Mr. Schuester an idea for a glee club theme. Unplugged Week.

Once again, the writers refuse to actually let Mr. Schue lesson plan.

• Will Schuester is checking out the competition for regionals and discovers that they have a problem. Her name is Frieda Romero. (American Idol Season 11 runner up Jessica Sanchez guest stars.)

Raise your hands if you believe she will Park and Bark, and the rest will dance around her. Actually, I've never watched American Idol, and have no idea if she can dance, it just seems they focus so much on their lead singer that they usually just kind of stand there.

[Lottie2303]

But wasn't it already confirmed that Blaine won't propose? So why all the hype? Unless, the couple comes from the left field...

I my bet is also on Brit leaving, especially because I get the impression that Heather wants to stop too. It is the perfect opportunity for FOX and Heather to leave and have a legit reason. Therefore, Britannia can also be officially considered dead. As I strongly dislike Brittany, bring it on!

[coxfire]

At the ballet is nice, too little Kurt, but nice, though editing will be hard, me thinks.

We Will Rock You could have been perfect if only Artie had sung it all, with the others as choir only. Seriously, McHale schooled them all on that one, and all the other guys lack edge and power (and sound all the same), they are such a let down after Artie's intro.

[Lottie2303]

All the male singers on Glee are so interchangeable! The only ones with distinctive voices are Chris and Kevin. Oh the irony, those two are criminally underused. Glee claiming to be so tolerant and open minded, proves in this very department, they love to cater to the mainstream fan base.

(It reminds me of S1 when they desperately tried to sell that Finn is the best singer. That was so funny. I think Cory developed really nicely and with the right songs, he sounds great, but he even for my untrained ear he is not even close to Chris/Kevin/even Mark voices in S1).

[arina]

Cory really belonged to the worst singers on the show in the first season, it's incredible how much he has improved his singing skills. Sadly the better he got the less songs he was given . And even when he wasn't that good they got very lucky his voice is extremely well compatible with Lea so Finchel duets always sound really good. I am sorry Chris is not that lucky, I hate Klaine but if Chris's and Darren's voices sounded better together at least I would be able to enjoy their duets as individual songs more.

[coxfire]

My problem is that Darren, although a good singer and performer, is not exceptional and his voice, to me, doesn't hold anything specific, it is very generic (to my ears). Even his voice on the oh-so praised Teenage Dream has nothing specific, and I tend to think that most of the appeal of this song was due to :1) The novelty of the a cappella provided by the Warblers in the background, 2) the arrangement of an otherwise not so good pop song 3) the fact that this song was sung as an anthem to Kurt. Not that Darren soundec bad on it, but it wasn't all that exceptional in retrospect. Unfortunately (for the other guys particularly) it brought him a massive fanbase, which subjected the audience to a Blaine overload, and particularly this season, where he got surexposure both in songs but also in storylines.
I don't say that Darren shouldn't sing or is a bad singer, far from it, but he certainly is overused and a tad overrated, while Kevin is in comparaison so cruelly underused it's not even funny.
But from what I've gathered in the comments regarding the songs this week, the audience starts to get it, at least when it come to Kevin needing to sing more.
I dread the end of this season, and brace myself for an infuriating or at least extremely disappointing 3 last episodes Kurt-wise, just like last year, but I'm glad we got to see Artie and his Mom.

[Lottie2303]

I like Darren’s voice and believe he actually has a rather good chance for a musical career. He has a nice sounding and generic voice, with the right song it will fit perfectly between the songs played on the radio. I also don’t mind him getting some solos. I most certainly still prefer him then let’s say Blake or Jacob.

But Glee is an ensemble! I want a fair allocation and distribution of songs. I want songs to fit in the story and not vice versa. I want to hear characters sing, which have amazing voices, but get sidelined all the time. I don’t want people (Rachel, Blaine) to sing for Kurt, as for whatever reason he is not allowed to express himself vocally. That is ridiculous. I don’t just want to hear Kurt either, but it should not be a rare treat to hear his voice every few episodes, or dare I say, solo.

I want Artie in NYC next season. He is the only MK character I want to stick around as he is truly a unique, diverse character and cannot be found on any other show on television. Also he so damn talented and it is a shame he always needs to stick in the background.

Correct about Finn. Once he found his voice they started to dismiss him. But I also do not really like his duets with Racheln in S1. She sounds much better with any other male character. My all time favorite duet is ‘Hello’. That was a great combination of voices!

[arina]

Taste in music and singers is really very subjective. I personally don't see much difference between Darren and let's say Chord or Ryder for example. Jacob also does have interchangeable voice but I personally think he is definitely better singer than the three of them. And I personally definitely prefer Cory over them too, he has really suprised me how versatile he can be and his big strenght is that he knows what he he is singing about, he is acting while singing, his singing makes me connect wit him which I often cannot say about some of the others.

I really don't think there is anything special about Darren's singing and his success on iTunes has a lot to do with the fact he gets to sing many popular (top 40) songs. If most of the other guys on the show got to sings those songs, it would sound very similar and the results would be basically the same.

From the kids I think Kevin is the best singer on the show, he is incredible versatile, has big range and in addition very distinctive voice and if the writers weren't stupid he would belong to the main singers on the show and not basically backup singer.

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