Re: Kurt Hummel Spoiler Thread - part 10

[bayth]

That makes sense. Well, I wish Ryan or someone would call them out then. Make them stop their crap.

They sort of did in the last episode. Tina sounded like a Blarren stan and it would seem impossible for those fans not to recognize themselves. (Of course, they are blinded by their love for him to see how cray-cray they are.)

[MoviesAreLife]

The sad thing is, is that we all saw it....but the Blarren stans were the only ones blind to it. If anything, they were agreeing with Tina. They say that truly crazy people don't know they are crazy....

[fantastica]

Liz, this is what I read: http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/television/channel-10-moves-glee-to-digital-channel-eleven-with-poor-ratings/story-e6frfmyi-1226583596585

so the last show only had a little over a quarter million viewers, which was pretty dismal.

[arina]

I am little worried too Adam didn't turn out to be another Brody who does nothing except admiring Rachel. Seeing Kurt being complimented is a nice change but they should not get overboard with it. And I sometimes feel they read peoples complaints and try to redemy their mistakes but they do in in a way which makes things even worse or at least not helpful. Like people complained Kurt loses everything so they gave him very rushed Vogue storyline and the second NYADA audition also was not exactly developed. And the solution to people complaints of Kurt never being coplimented definitely would not be to compliment him all the time.

I am most of the time interested in characters that aren't too sugary and nice (I think Kurt is one of the nicest characters I even been fan of and that is probably because I became fan at the time when he wasn't so pure and I am suffering now during his high roards and moral speeches), but I prefer edgier and more flawed characters where you are not always so sure how they will react to some situation, so my favorite character on Smash is definitely Ivy. And Megan Hilty is really talented.

[fantastica]

i agree.

[Delight]

I always knew CWM would be a fantasy, and I knew it was a moment for the Klainers, because, just like all the Finchel scenes last season, they have to give the fans something to tide them over in the breakup. I fully expected a lot of Blaine, even though Kurt has been given so little in his point of view. Somehow I think when deciding how to break them up, they knew one would be the "heavy" and that one would require a lot of repair work, so lots of songs etc. If they were more interested in Kurt singing, I think they would have had him cheat, even though Kurt is more interested in romance than sex. But they want Blainesongs, so cheat he did, and get a lot of mileage out of it. I think the song will be fairly equal, because it is a Klaine moment, not a Kurt moment. Kurt's moments will come afterwards, with Adam.

I'm sorry, but I don't think this is true. If Kurt had cheated Blaine would have sung all the songs anyway, only then he would have been justified to sing the sappy, sympathy asking songs.
Strictly speaking, this is a Kurt moment, not a Klaine one (as all the times Blaine was thinking of Klaine they were Blaine moments aka solos).
And Klaine moments in song are usually Blaine moments with a little Kurt in the background and his verse being cut from the episode.

I'm of the same opinion as you, Glorfindel. Blaine would end up singing more than Kurt regardless of whether he's the cheater or the cheat-ee. If Kurt had been the cheater, we'd end up with a string of angry Blaine POV solos of the likes of INRBIO (and wouldn't that be a joy to watch? *heavy sarcasm alert*). But because it's Kurt that's the victim of the cheating, he doesn't even get a single solo to express his POV.

While the intention of the cheating storyline was to make Blaine more than a cardboard 'Mr Perfect' character, I find that it's a lousy way to go about it, especially when Blaine still doesn't get called out for his behaviour and the show had Sam comforting Blaine and Tina being hostile towards Kurt who was the wronged party. They should've explored more as to why Blaine cheated in the first place (and not try to dismiss the cheating like it's no big deal and that 'everyone's human') if they're serious about developing his character.

Having said that, I'm actually not interested in Blaine enough to want to see 'further development' of this character. DC had been given more than enough opportunities (storyline, screentime and songs wise) to make Blaine more than the mess of a character he is now and he has failed. Maybe Blaine is just un-salvageable as a character now. I'd prefer it if they let some other character be given the chance to have their own storylines for a change (such as Finn, Artie).

I don't understand the mentality of Blainers who complain about Blaine not getting development because of being attached to Kurt; and yet get all up in arms when Kurt gets a new love interest (if their cyber bullying of Oliver is any indication). Wouldn't Kurt moving away from his role as Blaine's boyfriend serve their desire to see Blaine become his own person?

to be honest, if they know how to write some good klaine stories - i mean, really interesting stories, i can accept them together on my screen. but so far it's all about kurt watching blaine sing and blaine returning puppy love looks. or else we get cheating! are the writers so uncreative?! can't they write a decent story for a couple at all? sigh...

True. The best Klaine dynamic I ever saw is actually the product of fandom-- a Klaine fanfiction titled 'Little Numbers'. If the two boys are written to interact like that onscreen (the fic is actually very PG-13, don't misunderstand ), I'd be rooting for this pairing too. But given the way things are now in canon, I can't stand the thought of Kurt and Blaine together.

now w/ my above logic even if they do bring kurt and adam together seriously, it will probably end up a disaster too. if it turns out nothing but adam admiring kurt and kurt returning loving looks what's the difference?!

At least Adam wouldn't give Kurt an inferiority complex. He's been shown to make sure Kurt doesn't get away with putting himself down.

Oh yes, I agree with the thought that Adam shouldn't be turned into a Brody-like character where all he does is blow smoke up a main character's ass. That's one of the reasons why I can't take Brody seriously. He's only around to tell the audience how special and talented Rachel is, and that is really a lousy way to go about it.

There is no guarantee that the writers wouldn't screw Kadam over with their inability to write proper interesting stories for couples. There is comfort in the thought that Adam is unlikely to be made to cheat in order to 'develop' him (as they did Blaine).

[fantastica]

now that adam is officially older than kurt (and oliver being way older), i hope when he comes back (if at all after 15), he will actually play a mentor role, like helping kurt gain his confidence, showing him some tips about auditioning for roles or any advice that an older classmate will likely give to a freshman. and of course, teaching him all about the colorful gay culture of NYC.

but, we know we won't get it.

[ColferInspired]

Liz, this is what I read: http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/television/channel-10-moves-glee-to-digital-channel-eleven-with-poor-ratings/story-e6frfmyi-1226583596585

so the last show only had a little over a quarter million viewers, which was pretty dismal.

I just checked the TV Week and Naked is still on Channel ten for next week.
The ratings have been dropping since the back half of season 2.
Maybe a lot of us Aussies didn't warm to Blaine or Darren and that is why the ratings started to drop.
Season 3 had the same amount of viewers as this season.
Terra Nova got worst ratings then Glee did here and we still saw it until the end.
Other shows like White Collar, Burn Notice and others have moved to eleven. Trouble is channel ten try to pack to much in and there are too many reality shows that take up space and time as well so shows are moved to eleven.

[fantastica]

thanks Liz. that article makes it sound like glee is going down the tube (well it is, quality wise).

anyway, here's some more spoiler for ep17:

4x17 episode title
"Guilty Pleasures"

"Guilty Pleasures" is not the regionals episode.

whatever. i secretly dream of Adam being Kurt's guilty pleasures.

[Glorfindel]

Another 'Feud' (4x16) mash-up: The Bitch Is Back vs Dress You Up, Ryder vs Unique – Mash-Up Elton John/ Madonna.
(GOBr)

4x17 Episode Title: 'Guilty Pleasures'. 4x17 is not the Regionals episode.

Wow. Still no Regionals, and after 4x17 there's another hiatus, I think? This could mean there will be no Nationals this year.
Would they let Blaine lose Nationals and maybe even Regionals in his senior year?


-ETA-
Ninja'd by Kim.

[fantastica]

^ u r so welcome!

[MissSoniaPP]

I think in episodes 16, 17 Kurt will be figuration, that is, it will be like in "Naked"

[ColferInspired]

I think in episodes 16, 17 Kurt will be figuration, that is, it will be like in "Naked"

Lea has been shooting a lot of scenes with Chris and Naya. Maybe these two episodes won't have much of a focus on relationships, just a little for Rachel, the scene with Santana and Brody in sixteen.
That is interesting that Blaine didn't make the picture. Unless he got someone else to do it for him.
It's a shame about Adam/Oliver.

[Divalicious]

I could see the picture being a self portrait that Kurt had done in class the previous year. Or Tina does it as an apology to Blaine, to add to his collection. Therefore opening up the idea that Tina is an artist in the making, and she will go off to study painting at the Louvre. Just joking.

I am kind of relieved that Blaine didn't make it, because I was going, yeah, this is something else he does that is perfect. Kurt is an artist at heart, it would be nice for this to be his skill.

[Jellyrolls]

I wonder if the macaroni Kurt could be a Blaine/Sam/Tina project, though, and GOBR is just denying that blaine made it alone.

Or maybe Sam and Tina make it to send to Kurt in a attempt to make him go running back to Blaine.

Sad that we won't be seeing Oliver in 16 and 17.

[Ranwing]

We went through a number of eps where Brody wasn't on screen and he and Rachel were still together, so I'm not going to read too much into this right now. We'll get a better lay of the land after ep 15 where we'll see where Kurt's head is. So long as he's leaving Blaine behind, I'll survive if his relationship with Adam is off screen for a bit. The ep summaries (as usual) seem more McKinley heavy so I won't be horribly surprised to see Kurt's relationship put on the back burner.

I'm just tired of having to put up with the time dump that McKinley has become when I would much rather focus on what's happening in NY. It just seems like such a monumental waste of time. And given that Regionals is going to be so late in the season, I think it's looking like ND is going to lose. Which totally sucks for the seniors to graduate without a win, but it at least will give the noobs something to work towards next year (and something for me to sleep through). What I would love to see is some kind of year end show at NYADA where both Rachel and Kurt can have prominent roles. That would be something excitin to end the season on - having the two budding stars getting their first real tastes of what their careers hold for them.

[Divalicious]

I actually find it a little encouraging that Adam isn't in, because then perhaps the relationship is to last until next season. The more they deal with it now, the more likely it is to end. While I would prefer to see more of Adam now, if this saves his story until next season, more the better. In the end, Kurt and Blaine are still long distance, so either a friend or a romance, or better, both, is needed to give him something other than hanging with the girls to do.

[Ranwing]

If ep 15 resolves with Kurt deciding to permanently end things with Blaine and focus on his life in NY (and with Adam), them I won't be surprised to see his part in the following episodes somewhat reduced. Because they have to spend time watching Blaine mope and mourn the end of his relationship, and have Sam and Tina assuring Blaine that he's wonderful and it's Kurt's loss (even though Blaine was the one who cheated on Kurt, but who cares about that?).

[MoviesAreLife]

I actually like the idea of that being a self portrait peice of art. Kurt seems like an artistic type to me.

Wait...what if Adam did it?!

[bayth]

I'm hoping that the writers will go with the tradition of episode 18 being a big episode for Kurt. I'll keep an eye on the spoilers. Please let it be a big song and strong story arc for Kurt (and Adam). If any mention of Bland being near Kurt in the episode - I think I'm done with Glee. I can't see my favorite character/actor be trampled and minimized again - it's just painful to watch him belittled and his feelings classified as unimportant.

[fantastica]

i don't have any faith in the writers that ep 18 will be a kurt heavy episode. they are yet to write a role jessica sanchez and more than half of the season is over. this season has so little of our fav and so much of hte crap it's easily the worst ever season of glee, even though kurt had some "success" they came w/o any setup and resolved way too quickly and poor adam is no where to be found. I fear that all this "conversations" between Kadam will end their special relationship and push kurt back to bland somehow. remember the talk that they changed the stories of adam after fans complaining about him? that was even before adam was shown on the screen. that was bad enough. i can't trust the writers at all. sorry i am feeling so down but i really don't have any faith in the show runners. this show is going down the drain as they waste perfectly good actors and potentially interesting stories in order to focus on mediocre people and their sleep or vomit inducing plots.

[MoviesAreLife]

They changed Adam's storyline? Oh no.

[sheny]

C/D: The show will revisit the Blam storyline that was cut from Naked.
confirm

This is not about Kurt but after what happened in the last episode this spoiler makes me mad. I thought they ended that stupid storyline, but it looks like they will continue with the torture. They finally ended the Tina/Blaine disaster and now it's Blam's turn.
I'll will get so angry if after sleeping with Kurt, giving him that speech about getting back together in the hotel room and even doing the little happy dance Blaine still has a crush on Sam.

And the fact that Adam won't be in 16 and 17 makes me feel even worse. I hope for more focus on NY and some interesting Hummelberry/Santana moment to make 16 and 17 sufferable .

[Buenos]

C/D: The show will revisit the Blam storyline that was cut from Naked.
confirm

This is not about Kurt but after what happened in the last episode this spoiler makes me mad. I thought they ended that stupid storyline, but it looks like they will continue with the torture. They finally ended the Tina/Blaine disaster and now it's Blam's turn.
I'll will get so angry if after sleeping with Kurt, giving him that speech about getting back together in the hotel room and even doing the little happy dance Blaine still has a crush on Sam.

And the fact that Adam won't be in 16 and 17 makes me feel even worse. I hope for more focus on NY and some interesting Hummelberry/Santana moment to make 16 and 17 sufferable .

I think it's more about Sam finding out about Blaine's previous crush. That was the part that was cut out of "Naked."
Personally I think now that Blaine had sex with Kurt they can have Sam find out because now there is no implied "danger" for Sam or any awkwardness for their "bro" friendship. It wouldn't' surprise me if Sam finding out is tempered by Sam knowing that Blaine hooked up with Kurt so he can dismiss it as harmless and innocent.

Of course Tina gets humiliated and is reduced to a pathetic mess for her crush but the show must protect and not strip the dignity of their "bro" friendships. And technically Blaines' crush was more pathetic because his buddy had a girlfriend at the time.

[Glorfindel]

They changed Adam's storyline? Oh no.

All they did was make his scenes in 4x11 (the first time he appeared) a little less flirty and obvious. I think they did that to keep up some suspense up for future episodes, and maybe to reduce the uncomfortable feeling of Kurt sleeping with Blaine in 4x14 while having a very romantic and flirty guy in New York.

I'm with @Ranwing: if Kadam get together in 4x15 I don't mind Adam not being shown for 2 episodes, just like Brody is not in every episode (although I of course would prefer more Adam on my screen, but this is Glee and we can't have nice things).

Look at it from this side: if Kadam have problems because of 4x15, like Adam taking some distance or having to think things over after he found out Kurt slept with Blaine, or if Kurt is still conflicted and asks Adam for some time, I think that then Adam would have been in either 4x16 or 4x17, because there is no way Glee would wait that long with romantic "Will they/Won't they" storylines. It could of course also be that this will be the big storyline for Kurt in 4x18.
I think 4x16 and 4x17 don't have a Kurt storyline, and he will only be the best gay and roommate in those episodes.
So let's hope that 4x18 will be his traditional big episode.

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