Re: Kurt Hummel Snark & Bark Thread--Part 5

[Buenos]

Part of it is just insecurity. Let's face it, Blaine (which many Klainers favor) depends on his relationship with Kurt. The character has never been developed as anything separate from Kurt, his SL's all circle back to Kurt in one way or another. For example, Sebastian was a plot device to get Klaine intimate. PLus the show is terrified of showing Blaine/Darren as too "gay" as in dating other guys because the fangirls would find him less appealing.

Kurt as a standalone character does not depend on the Klaine relationship, he was developed before and he could survive very easily if Klaine stopped.

So a character like Adam, is a reminder to them of this fact because it is a SL and interaction that has nothing to do with Blaine at all. Even if they think Klaine is endgame they don't want others pulling focus on what they think should be the main focus for Kurt. It's a threat to Blaine because it just emphasizes once again their differences as characters and Kurt's independence.

My Klaine feels have been what they always have been, that it depends how they write the SL. I'm cynical in that Kurt will be neutered most of the time because of FOX's conservative corporate mindset but at the same time I'm not stupid not to realize that "Klaine" also keeps Kurt/Chris Colfer with media/fan attention/buzz, which to me is good.

[MoviesAreLife]

*applause*

I say we pull a Kurt Hummel and take the high road. Let them all bitch...it will only reflect badly on them in the end.

[Divalicious]

With Oliver being polar opposite of Blaine it makes it easier for the writers to compare and contrast. Adam seems more relaxed in himself, avante garde, certainly taller and older. Blaine is a conformist, he fits what society wants from him, and he is comfortable there. I think Blainers don't like the idea of Blaine being compared to anyone, because it will point out his imperfections. They want Blaine to continue to be perfect pretend boyfriend material. Everything he touches turns to gold, songs, people, the perfect partner in every way. Boys like him, girls like him, teachers like him, even Sue can't find anything bad to say about him, heck even Santana called Rachel Hobbit more than Blaine.

For writers that is boring, for actors that is boring. Having someone else come into Kurt's life actually gives Blaine a better avenue for becoming an adult, instead of his childish person he has been since season 3. He can decide to grow up to be a better partner, or take Sebastian's life route and have no finer emotions for his bed partners, he's already done that with Eli. Kurt getting involved with someone else also allows Blaine to get involved with a new person. Something they constantly want, but not in this circumstance because, as I've said before, they are upset about the fact Kurt is choosing someone else and it isn't Blaine leaving Kurt for someone hotter.

The vast immaturity of the fans that are condoning these actions is just amazing. Again, they have become the bullies that Glee was supposed to be about, but it has skewed towards the perfect people now. If this song were truly a "stolen" song, the lawyers would be all over this, the fact that it is still for sale shows that it is not. I think they picked a cracky song, that Chris himself once mentioned in an interview as being a "romantic" song (totally tongue in cheek) and since it was a singing group, they used this version. The creator of this version, while not owning the song, is undoubtedly using this to pick up some residuals, and I can't blame him, we all need money. Then he has a bunch of kids picking up his banner and making this small issue a big one. I say ignore it, it's been given far more energy than it deserves, especially since it may be all of 2 minutes on the show.

[Buenos]

Yes, the Oliver character is tall, blond English and an older, more experienced in life character.

I don't give two figs if he ends up being a love interest for Kurt or not, I'm excited that Chris may have a good acting dynamics with other character. Apparently Oliver graduated from a school of dramatic arts in London and the few excerpts I've seen on TV shows the man can act in both drama and comedy.

Kurt/Chris needs someone other than Rachel in every scene in NY. I suspect that he is going to interact a lot with Adam, even if he's not a love interest, which is fine with me as long as they have good chemistry.

Personally I would prefer Kurt unattached and single, but I doubt the show can avoid their infamous triangles.

[CloveGlee]

The "Baby Got Back" controversy is not about RIB stealing the song. It's about finding fault with Adam and weakening his position because he threatens Klaine. If Blaine were singing that song the people who are attacking it now would be explaining why it's OK and that RIB do this all the time. Because... they do.

[Glorfindel]

The "Baby Got Back" controversy is not about RIB stealing the song. It's about finding fault with Adam and weakening his position because he threatens Klaine. If Blaine were singing that song the people who are attacking it now would be explaining why it's OK and that RIB do this all the time. Because... they do.

'Don't Stop Believing' was a rip off of a new arrangement of the original song.
Same goes for 'I Want To Hold Your Hand', the famous 'Girls Just Wanna Have Fun', 'White Christmas', 'Fly/I Believe I Can Fly', and practically every Barbra-rized song on the show. There are many more examples but it's getting late and I want to go to bed now.

The only thing that might be new here is that Glee may have stripped the JC instrumentals from his own version. That is certainly against the law. But still, Glee always tries to be cheap when it comes to these things (just look at them copying but not crediting the Kiki dance), so this should be nothing more than same old, same old. (Not to say that I approve of this.)

I agree, and also believe that this controversy has been encouraged by 'fans' who dislike Adam, and if Blaine had sung this song these same 'fans' would have shrugged it off as no big deal.

[sheny]

So in this episode of Glee 'Sadie Hawkins' almost all of the characters forgot their brains at home, but they are not using them anyway.

I'll start with Rachel. I'm so mad at her. How could she invite Brody to move in with her? You don't live alone, you have a roommate why don't you ask him what he thinks first. Seriously how can someone be so selfish? But of course she is Queen Rachel everybody have to accept her decisions and do what she wants. now more that ever I want Kurt to win the song-off.

Now Tina. i hate what they turned her into. She is so disrespectful to everybody, she kept insulting the nerds and the freaks, even Sam and Blaine felt uncomfortable. She looked so shocked when Blaine rejected her. Why the hell are you surprised? Did you forget he is gay? And later she apologized for asking him because she remembered his previous bad Sadie Hawkins experience. Once again she missed the real reason for the rejection which is Blaine being gay. Oh and she remembered about Kurt's existence how nice. The moment she was checking out his ass was just Yes objectifying someone like this makes it look like real love. He is the love of your life Tina go for it.

Once again Blaine managed to piss me off. Oblivious fool. He leads Tina on and it looks like he doesn't even realize it. And what make me even angrier is that he said no to Tina not because he is homosexual and cant return her feelings, not because he still loves Kurt but because he has a crush on Sam. Ughhh seriously Blaine? The conversation about Sam's lips was just creepy. When did Blaine commented on how sweet and good looking Kurt's lips are? Never. But of course he is allowed to compliment other men's body parts, he is allowed to sleep with other men, he is allowed to be called sexy and his butt is admired by girls, but Kurt is a baby penguin whose sexy faces look like he is having gas pains.
What happened to "Kurt is the love of my life" and "Kurt is the person I love the most in the world". In that last scene when Sam and Brittany we dancing together he looked like someone was ripping his heart out.

Spoiler:

This sure is real love. How am I supposed to believe his feeling for Kurt were real when 2 episodes after declaring his devotion and love to him it looks like he has moved on and doesn't even remember about him. he just keep jumping from one guy to the next. First Sebastian (I don't care what he or everybody else said, he was attracted to Sebastian. It was so obvious, you have to be blind not to see it.), then Eli and now Sam. Does Kurt means so little to him? I'm sure people who are in love don't act the way he does.
And can they just stop with that Blam stupidity. They should stop using the ship names the fans made up on the show. It's not funny it's annoying. If I was a Klaine fan I would be offended for 3 seasons they never used the name Klaine on the show but this season they are saying Blam at least 10 times per episode.

I think that was all. I'm sorry for this rant. But no matter what these three idiots did they can't ruin my happiness, because Kurt and Adam were so adorable

[MoviesAreLife]

If Kurt really does find out that Brody has moved in because he walks out into the kitchen naked, I am going to be pissed. That's really...tacky of Rachel and Brody, to be honest.

[ColferGirl]

Currently I'm really ticked that a lot of reviewers took that "predatory gay" line exactly as we Kurtsies feared, and are saying how the Blaine/Sam plot is a way to redo the "gay guy crushes on a straight guy" storyline "correctly" without "predatory overtones/machinations." Makes me so, so, so mad. Kurt was never predatory, the only thing you could even remotely argue as "predatory" was his let's-get-our-parents-to-date-so-we'll-live-together thing. But Kurt backed out of it (or wanted to) in that very same episode because it threatened his relationship with his dad. We learn in S2 Kurt is nervous and awkward, even a little afraid of sex, so what he wanted from Finn was never anything sexual. He thought of Finn like a knight in shining armor, and in his naivety and loneliness he just wanted some kind of fairytale-like companionship from him. Ughhh I can't stand when anyone implies Kurt was predatory I can't I can't....

I refuse to say which reviews are saying this stuff for my own sanity but if you visit ontd_glee it's not hard to find.

And then some reviewers complained that Adam complimented Kurt "too much" and that Kurt gets "complimented all the time" which is a FUCKING LIE and yet never not once has a reviewer ever complained how thick Brody lays his compliments onto Rachel, and no one called out Tina (or tons of characters for that matter) complimenting and fawning over Blaine ("You're perfect" "Is there anything you can't do?") all the time ARGH. Why is it always Kurt? What do so many people have against Kurt being loved and complimented and cherished? Are people really still holding his S1 naivety and bad choices against him? Especially when nothing bad really happened Kurt and Finn are brothers now and totally cool with each other and Kurt never actually sexually violated him or intended to do so, ever?


*trying to calm down* Note to self: never ever read reviews from entertainment sites again they just piss me off.

[sahhar]

Currently I'm really ticked that a lot of reviewers took that "predatory gay" line exactly as we Kurtsies feared, and are saying how the Blaine/Sam plot is a way to redo the "gay guy crushes on a straight guy" storyline "correctly" without "predatory overtones/machinations." Makes me so, so, so mad. Kurt was never predatory, the only thing you could even remotely argue as "predatory" was his let's-get-our-parents-to-date-so-we'll-live-together thing. But Kurt backed out of it (or wanted to) in that very same episode because it threatened his relationship with his dad. We learn in S2 Kurt is nervous and awkward, even a little afraid of sex, so what he wanted from Finn was never anything sexual. He thought of Finn like a knight in shining armor, and in his naivety and loneliness he just wanted some kind of fairytale-like companionship from him. Ughhh I can't stand when anyone implies Kurt was predatory I can't I can't....

I refuse to say which reviews are saying this stuff for my own sanity but if you visit ontd_glee it's not hard to find.

And then some reviewers complained that Adam complimented Kurt "too much" and that Kurt gets "complimented all the time" which is a FUCKING LIE and yet never not once has a reviewer ever complained how thick Brody lays his compliments onto Rachel, and no one called out Tina (or tons of characters for that matter) complimenting and fawning over Blaine ("You're perfect" "Is there anything you can't do?") all the time ARGH. Why is it always Kurt? What do so many people have against Kurt being loved and complimented and cherished? Are people really still holding his S1 naivety and bad choices against him? Especially when nothing bad really happened Kurt and Finn are brothers now and totally cool with each other and Kurt never actually sexually violated him or intended to do so, ever?


*trying to calm down* Note to self: never ever read reviews from entertainment sites again they just piss me off.

I stopped reading reviews from entertainment sites ages ago, and I'm glad I did. They never get the point of a show at all. They just don't get it. I've never once seen Kurt being complimented like the way Adam did yesterday, and I hope it continues. The line where Tina tells Blaine, is there anything you can't do?, I literally rolled my eyes and barfed , double standards.

[Glorfindel]

I can't with these reviewers. Sometimes I think they see a different show than we do.
And the last thing I want is another round of why Kurt was a creepy predatory gay stalker to Finn WHEN THAT G*DDAMMIT NEVER HAPPENED!!!!!!!!



Another thing that pissed me off in this episode was that Kurt was directly compared and shown with the ugly, awkward girls when asking the boy they wanted to dance (and Kurt asking Adam for a drink).
Not only did they hint at Kurt being a girl again, but also at him being undesirable.

[valkeakuulas]

I can't with these reviewers. Sometimes I think they see a different show than we do.
And the last thing I want is another round of why Kurt was a creepy predatory gay stalker to Finn WHEN THAT G*DDAMMIT NEVER HAPPENED!!!!!!!!



Another thing that pissed me off in this episode was that Kurt was directly compared and shown with the ugly, awkward girls when asking the boy they wanted to dance (and Kurt asking Adam for a drink).
Not only did they hint at Kurt being a girl again, but also at him being undesirable.

I noticed this intercutting of scenes and I understand why it's upsetting. It was also so obvious and bad use of characters that I just didn't see it insulting against Kurt as a man but generally a poor choice of respect and storytelling. The makers of Glee always refer and bundle up Kurt with girls because that is easier to write and quicker solution than actually write for their multisided character. IMO they do these silly things because they lack imagination and someone somewhere in the writers room remembers until their dying day that Kurt has himself said he preferes the company of girls, but conviniently forget that Kurt never has said he wants to be a girl.

But if reviewers do think that Kurt's and Blaine's crushes are different it just shows their own ignorance and prejudice against a character like Kurt. I could easily say that Blaine's crush on Sam is worse, since Sam is completely unaware of it and consideres Blaine as a friend. For Sam's defence I don't think he'd be upset of either boys crush because I just see him taking it into his stride because he has obvious knowledge of his certain attractive attributes.

[fantastica]

this "predatory" thing and "perfect blaine" crap and all this premise that kurt isn't desirable is really driving me crazy. i prefer not to say more because otherwise I may end up destroying some precious electronics in my house.

[MoviesAreLife]

You guys have to remember that Tina saw Blaine as "perfect" but that is to be expected. She has a somewhat desperate crush on him. That's not to say that the writers are saying that he's actually perfect because, obviously, he's not. "Perfect" people don't cheat, for once thing.

And yes, Kurt was intercut with the girls. Again, I don't think they were saying that he's a "girl" per say, but he does have endearing feminine qualities. I don't think they were saying he was undesireable either, as now we have Adam to tell Kurt how attractive he is (thank GOD!) The girls that he was intercut with weren't all unattractive...just socially awkward and wallflowers. Sugar is not ugly, but she is obnoxious. Tina seems to be the leader of these "loser" girls and I think she is quite beautiful physically. Lauren when given the proper clothes to wear can actually look attractive, it's just her attitude that is overbearing. Kurt himself is a bit of a wallflower and timid and, as we've seen now, is someone who has low self esteem and who doesn't take compliments well. But he is still a beautiful young man.

[sahhar]

Guys Oliver said on Facebook to please let Ryan Murphy know we want Adam to stay on the show. Please Tweet to Ryan.

Can we please have more Adam and Kurt scenes on Glee!!!?? #KeepAdamOnGlee

[ColferGirl]

You guys have to remember that Tina saw Blaine as "perfect" but that is to be expected. She has a somewhat desperate crush on him. That's not to say that the writers are saying that he's actually perfect because, obviously, he's not. "Perfect" people don't cheat, for once thing.

And yes, Kurt was intercut with the girls. Again, I don't think they were saying that he's a "girl" per say, but he does have endearing feminine qualities. I don't think they were saying he was undesireable either, as now we have Adam to tell Kurt how attractive he is (thank GOD!) The girls that he was intercut with weren't all unattractive...just socially awkward and wallflowers. Sugar is not ugly, but she is obnoxious. Tina seems to be the leader of these "loser" girls and I think she is quite beautiful physically. Lauren when given the proper clothes to wear can actually look attractive, it's just her attitude that is overbearing. Kurt himself is a bit of a wallflower and timid and, as we've seen now, is someone who has low self esteem and who doesn't take compliments well. But he is still a beautiful young man.

I'm so glad you joined the forum. Your perspective on it calmed me down a lot. I think you're right about Tina's overexaggerated crush-blinded praise, and I agree with you that this time, the praise probably shouldn't be taken seriously. Especially since it seems Tina will probably get burned by this hopeless crush and see her blind hero-worship for what it is down the line, and be embarrassed over it. Besides, if we take the written dialogue as fact about how the writers are trying to portray the characters....then shouldn't we be happy, because Adam is making it very clear in dialogue and body language and pretty much his everything that he is very much attracted to Kurt and thinks he's wonderful? Which would then mean the writers think so too?

As for the bolded - I love Kurt's feminine qualities too!!! I love that you used the word "endearing", perfect way to describe his feminine traits.

(sorry now this is probably too positive for the snark and bark thread ._.)

[Buenos]

Tina's overexaggerated crush-blinded praise,

Poor Tina, one of my faves, the character has been totally thrown under the bus. There is a so called Tina stan Moderator at Gleeforum who actually thinks it doesn't matter how pathetic or loserlike they portray Tina, as long as they hitch her to Blaine it's all good ( and woe to anyone who disagrees with her delusional rantings.)

Mike was Tina's boyfriend for two years so to disregard him is just a way to make Tina see the light that she's compensating for the absence of Mike with Blaine. The writers of Glee have nothing but contempt for the character of Tina so I wouldn't get too worried about what inanities spew out of her mouth.

What I love is that Kurt is attracted to someone, Adam, who seems to admire Kurt's qualities and finds him attractive. We know he will appear in at least 3 episodes so let's keep our fingers crossed. The show is teasing "Klaine" suff in future episodes but I suspect, like Finchell, it's all smoke and mirrors to keep the shippers interested.

[Glorfindel]

You guys have to remember that Tina saw Blaine as "perfect" but that is to be expected. She has a somewhat desperate crush on him. That's not to say that the writers are saying that he's actually perfect because, obviously, he's not. "Perfect" people don't cheat, for once thing.

But it happens consistently with Blaine. Finn told Blaine that he was the most well-rounded performer after Rachel, Santana called him an acapella dreamboat, Sebastian called him sex on a stick, and this season Blaine has been worshipped and turned into ND's hero by almost every character in Lima. Heck, even Sue compliments him!
You can say that this is just the characters thinking that of Blaine, and it may not be necessarily true in canon, but come on! This is deliberately and repeatedly done.

And yes, Kurt was intercut with the girls. Again, I don't think they were saying that he's a "girl" per say, but he does have endearing feminine qualities. I don't think they were saying he was undesireable either, as now we have Adam to tell Kurt how attractive he is (thank GOD!) The girls that he was intercut with weren't all unattractive...just socially awkward and wallflowers. Sugar is not ugly, but she is obnoxious. Tina seems to be the leader of these "loser" girls and I think she is quite beautiful physically. Lauren when given the proper clothes to wear can actually look attractive, it's just her attitude that is overbearing. Kurt himself is a bit of a wallflower and timid and, as we've seen now, is someone who has low self esteem and who doesn't take compliments well. But he is still a beautiful young man.

And this is also deliberately done.
Fact is that they did directly parallel Kurt asking Adam out with the girls at the dance, in an episode called Sadie Hawkins. And they did directly parallel him with the wallflowers.
I don't agree with the writers either that Sugar, Lauren or that Tina assistant girl (keep forgetting her name) should be at the bottom of the popularity and looks department, but the show is portraying them this way, and this was not the first time. They even brought Ashley back for this exact reason! In season 2 Lauren was a confident, smart girl who got what she wanted, including a hot guy. But now they forgot all that, and they even forgot that she was a senior last year, just to bring her back as a wallflower. Why? Because her actress is overweight and not a classic Hollywood beauty. That is the bottomline, like it or not.
This is how it works in showbizz. On tv and in the movies people who look beautiful and 'normal' play the popular and 'nice' characters, and they are seldom the outcasts and unpopular characters. The unpopular characters have to look the part: they have to look less attractive (in the pre-conditioned Western society eye). Glee did it with the original ND, with the wallflower girls (although I don't understand why Sugar was one of them), and this episode also with the Adam's Apples. OTOH the utopistic superior (original) Warblers all were good looking young men.
When in reality people do judge and ostracize others because of their looks, there are also nerds and misfits who are good looking too who still end up on the bottom of the food chain, and there are popular people who are not as good looking. But we hardly ever see that on our screens.

And even without the implications of those wallflowers being not as attractive as the other girls, they were still the wallflowers, the ones who couldn't get a date even at a dance that was meant to give the girls the power to ask the guys (*barf*) so they would not be overlooked for once. And Kurt was in a direct parallel scene with them!!! That's not a coincidence and it has to imply something.
We've known for a long time that Kurt is hot as hell, but so far the show never acknowledged that, unless grudgingly, to appease the Kurtsies. So far only Chandler did that, and he was played for comedy. Now both Adam and Rachel complimented Kurt on his looks, but this was the first time in 3 1/2 seasons!
It's a bit ironic that in the same episode they finally address that Kurt has an insecurity problem about his looks and his talent they also deliberately put him in the insecure and awkward girl category. And for some reason Kurt is at the bottom of the social hierarchy at NYADA too, when we didn't see any reason why. Was it his unusual looks? His high voice? His feminine traits? Why? Unclear, but something must be 'wrong' with him.
That scene when Beiste encouraged the girls to take action and ask the guys was supposed to be ~inspiring and ~empowering I guess, but it only confirmed to me that under the surface Glee holds the same double standards they preach about.
Maybe their trail of thoughts did not go further than "OMG, that looks like an intelligent, creative scene to parallel Kurt asking with the girls asking at the dance" (as I found this episode's editing a bit pompous and artificial), but it did implicate things that better not could have been implicated, considering Kurt's past with effeminacy and never being seen as good as his other half.

[opals]

So I'm seeing a whole lot of people on various sites saying how "creepy" it is that Adam looks so much older than Kurt, and I'm wondering do these people think Darren looks young by any stretch of the imagination?

Darren is a cutie and all, but he's looking every bit his 26 years and then some, and that tube of Brylcream in the hair and grandpa chic wardrobe aren't exactly making him look any younger as Blaine.

Is it me, or Darren also looking a bit softer around the middle lately? Not bad, by any stretch, but it just struck me that Kurt looked more fit than Blaine in this episode.

[ColferInspired]

So I'm seeing a whole lot of people on various sites saying how "creepy" it is that Adam looks so much older than Kurt, and I'm wondering do these people think Darren looks young by any stretch of the imagination?

Darren is a cutie and all, but he's looking every bit his 26 years and then some, and that tube of Brylcream in the hair and grandpa chic wardrobe aren't exactly making him look any younger as Blaine.

Is it me, or Darren also looking a bit softer around the middle lately? Not bad, by any stretch, but it just struck me that Kurt looked more fit than Blaine in this episode.

The thing is I am seeing blogs on tumblr where Chris is described as hotter than Darren by fans.

The tide is changing where Darren is losing his heartthrob status. I RIB would start realising. I don't think Darren cares anway. He will eventually find out who he true fans are someday.

Plus it is Chris that is getting letters from girl wanting to convert him and marry him. He has said that in a interview, which though he is flattered, must be frustrating when he probably likes getting letters that tell him has inspired them.

And look at the reaction of the IconMagazine pics. Tumblr went nuts over them and they are still appearing. That same day two new pics of Darren appeared and they soon disappeared with in seconds that the Icon magazine pics appeared.

RIB are absolute morons to not know that Chris is now the heartthrob.

I don't care about reviewers, they usually only want to stir up the fandom, and don't really care about the show.

And I don't care how old Adam looks. Some people do look older than their age.

[fantastica]

i have seen high school student sporting a beard (granted he's probably middle eastern). and I have dated guys a lot older than I was. but if mark and cory could play teenagers then oliver can definitely play college students.

[opals]

Apparently, I need to check out tumblr instead of glee forum.

It's weird that while I hope that Adam gathers enough popularity to remain on the show, I'm also relieved that it appears that he won't become an overnight teen idol the way Darren did. That way he writers may actually write a character for this guy instead of tip toeing around fourteen year old fangirls.

From the start, the writers have never allowed Blaine to be anything more than the not-too-gay, gay Disney prince, and I think Darren would like to see the character branch beyond that.

[Buenos]

Adam in just one episode already seems more "real" and a fleshed out character than Blaine TBH.

The silly shade thrown that Adam is way "much" older than Kurt as if there is a creepiness factor is laughable.
Kurt is suppose to be about 19 and Adam is suppose to be 22.

Chris Colfer in real life is 22, (soon to turn 23) and Oliver Keiran Jones is I believe between 28-31, since when is that some huge discrepancy in Hollywood, even in pairings? Ralph Machhio played "young" practically into his mid 30's.

I have no problem with someone who thinks Oliver looks older, or even much older (subjective opinion and all, whatever). I think he looks visually fine age wise myself.

However, I do think some of the online obsession about how much "older" Oliver looks is the usual Blaine and Klaine Stans and Kurt haters trying to make a mountain out of mole hill. Their biggest fear is that Oliver will go over well so *some*of the criticism has a whiff of desperation to it IMO.

How is it creepy or pervy for a 22 year old actor to be portrayed with another adult who may look older but certainly not father/grandfather stage? LOL The way they carry on you'd think Kurt looks 14 and Oliver looks 44.

[Glorfindel]

However, I do think some of the online obsession about how much "older" Oliver looks is the usual Blaine and Klaine Stans and Kurt haters trying to make a mountain out of mole hill. Their biggest fear is that Oliver will go over well so *some*of the criticism has a whiff of desperation to it IMO.

Ding, ding, ding, we have a winner!

It's pretty obvious, isn't it?

[ChrisColferFan1]

However, I do think some of the online obsession about how much "older" Oliver looks is the usual Blaine and Klaine Stans and Kurt haters trying to make a mountain out of mole hill. Their biggest fear is that Oliver will go over well so *some*of the criticism has a whiff of desperation to it IMO.

Ding, ding, ding, we have a winner!

It's pretty obvious, isn't it?

Agree 100%. I also have a feeling if Adam was for Blaine most if not all of the Adam haters would be for Adam.

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