Re: General Glee Discussion Thread--Part 1

[ColferGirl]

woman are harsher on other women. that is a fact.

take in an example from another show i watch. there is this male and this female character who are both villains. she is more hands on in her evil deeds, he is the ultimate manipulator equally rotten to the core who is partly responsible for her fall to evil. and in the eyes of a lot of women, he is their byronic misunderstood hero and she is is the greatest evil that ever walked the earth. (of course i'm slightly bitter because she is my fave )

Are you talking about Regina and Mr. Gold (Evil Queen and Rumplestilzkin) from Once Upon a Time? I agree the fandom hate for Regina is ridiculous. I love both characters, personally. I don't understand double standards, in anything, but especially when someone finds a trait or an action endearing in one type of character, and yet find that same trait/action annoying or despicable in another.

[MoviesAreLife]

So, women have no one to turn to. Not men, and not even each other. We are judged harshly either way.

[tanita_mors]

woman are harsher on other women. that is a fact.

take in an example from another show i watch. there is this male and this female character who are both villains. she is more hands on in her evil deeds, he is the ultimate manipulator equally rotten to the core who is partly responsible for her fall to evil. and in the eyes of a lot of women, he is their byronic misunderstood hero and she is is the greatest evil that ever walked the earth. (of course i'm slightly bitter because she is my fave )

Are you talking about Regina and Mr. Gold (Evil Queen and Rumplestilzkin) from Once Upon a Time? I agree the fandom hate for Regina is ridiculous. I love both characters, personally. I don't understand double standards, in anything, but especially when someone finds a trait or an action endearing in one type of character, and yet find that same trait/action annoying or despicable in another.

yes.
i mean, both of them want their kid back, but while his attempt is seen as the noblest possible (even though he created a curse that would bring him to his son and in the process destroyed the queens life and made it virtually impossible for her not to enact it and was directly responsible for the separation between himself and his son, and hasn't rectified the reason for it), god forbid regina wants to be around her son or have any patently rights to him at all. adopted or not, she is his mother and i'm appoled by the in-show treatment and in-fandom one in particular.

some see her as the ultimate evil, but the truth is, this line i red somewhere describes what happened to her best " regina's mother both her a ticket to crazyville, her father drove her there and rumplestilskin built her a house. and she decided to stay."

[opals]

Saw this on Tumblr, which is a place I don't normally brave. I don't know where it's from, but all I have to say is: Good, Lord. Kurt, get you some.

[fantastica]

naaaaaaa. kurt only deserves hobbit.

[MoviesAreLife]

Damn! And Kurt wants to go back to the beer belly WHY?

[fantastica]

cause blaine is his sow-mate.

[Delight]

Hmm... It may only be a matter of time before RM gets a shirtless Adam written into a Glee episode (ala Brody and all the ND guys except Kurt).

I'm all for anything that would improve the chances of Adam staying on the show.

[MoviesAreLife]

Sow-mate?

You know, I actually think a shirtless Kurt could be a possibility in the future now that they aren't making him a sexless, baby bird anymore.

[opals]

cause blaine is his sow-mate.

LOL!

Great. So Kurt passes on Grade A beef in favor of Spam.

Hmm... It may only be a matter of time before RM gets a shirtless Adam written into a Glee episode (ala Brody and all the ND guys except Kurt).

I'm all for anything that would improve the chances of Adam staying on the show.

I suppose I could suffer through a shirtless Adam if it means his character gets to stay, and Kurt gets a break from Blaine for a little while.

You know, I actually think a shirtless Kurt could be a possibility in the future now that they aren't making him a sexless, baby bird anymore.

Fandom couldn't handle four inches of bare back. Are you trying to break these people permanently?

[Jellyrolls]

Saw this on Tumblr, which is a place I don't normally brave. I don't know where it's from, but all I have to say is: Good, Lord. Kurt, get you some.

Kurt, Kurt, Kurt, would you sleep with an oil slick when this is within you reach?

[BlueJazz]

Sow-mate?

You know, I actually think a shirtless Kurt could be a possibility in the future now that they aren't making him a sexless, baby bird anymore.

YES, PLEASE

Fandom couldn't handle four inches of bare back. Are you trying to break these people permanently?

Isn't it one of Chris' jobs these days ?

[Glorfindel]

Wow, how shallow we all are today, ladies.
What happened to intellect, kindness and empathy being the deciding factor for women liking a man? Aren't we supposed to be the gender that evolved the most from our primal instincts?

(But yeah, those are some fine arms and chest, mr. OKJ. )

[Jellyrolls]

Oliver is the carrot they are dangling in front of us. Everything about Adam is perfect for Kurt. And Oliver is quite easy on the eyes, and a nice guy too boot.

Adamver is the anti-Blarren.

[MoviesAreLife]

LOL! A shirtless Chris would break Tumblr and people's minds in a good way. It'll be glorious!

I'm guessing that Kurt would sleep with Blaine because it was familiar to him.

[Divalicious]

It's kind of like Brody, if you think about it. Acting aside, personality aside, he is a nicely put together man. Who is very comfortable being in the buff. So Rachel gets the perfect boyfriend, with the same goals and passions and attention to personal care as herself. That way when she chooses Finn, it shows she could have had everything, but loves Finn more. So Kurt (may) get Adam, or the possibility of Adam, I still haven't written off them trying to keep Kurt away from Blaine into next season. The handsome, very nicely built, sweet (as far as we know) man who is also a senior. That could be one of the cliffhangers Ryan mentioned in his interview in the other thread. Or he could be an avenue to show after school. Still think there could be an off-Broadway playhouse. They need a place multiple people can gather outside of NYADA. Finn could work there, Santana could act there, Puck could have his play put on there. Artie can direct after he graduates (I think he will be the one episode wonder like Mike and Mercedes have been, though) and of course Kurt and Rachel can get parts. So what if Adam has some money, not too much, but the kind that can build an old theater, and he does so to remain in NY near Kurt.

I don't want to wake from this dream, because I think I like it more than what we will get.

Anyway, if I don't hear anything about Adam by episode 19, then I will be worried. Until then I have hope. But only that thimble full that I give Glee, I still have PTSD from Season 3.

[valkeakuulas]

It's kind of like Brody, if you think about it. Acting aside, personality aside, he is a nicely put together man. Who is very comfortable being in the buff. So Rachel gets the perfect boyfriend, with the same goals and passions and attention to personal care as herself. That way when she chooses Finn, it shows she could have had everything, but loves Finn more. So Kurt (may) get Adam, or the possibility of Adam, I still haven't written off them trying to keep Kurt away from Blaine into next season. The handsome, very nicely built, sweet (as far as we know) man who is also a senior. That could be one of the cliffhangers Ryan mentioned in his interview in the other thread. Or he could be an avenue to show after school. Still think there could be an off-Broadway playhouse. They need a place multiple people can gather outside of NYADA. Finn could work there, Santana could act there, Puck could have his play put on there. Artie can direct after he graduates (I think he will be the one episode wonder like Mike and Mercedes have been, though) and of course Kurt and Rachel can get parts. So what if Adam has some money, not too much, but the kind that can build an old theater, and he does so to remain in NY near Kurt.

I don't want to wake from this dream, because I think I like it more than what we will get.

Anyway, if I don't hear anything about Adam by episode 19, then I will be worried. Until then I have hope. But only that thimble full that I give Glee, I still have PTSD from Season 3.

Your head canon gave me misty eyes. This is what I'd love to watch even though it's bit fairy tale-ish.

I love that fans have better ideas for the show than professional entertainers.

[MoviesAreLife]

Now that we know that Brody is an escort, that changes things a little. Of course, Rachel could always use protection each and everytime with him. But I still prefer him over Finn, that's how much I hate Finchel. It also wouldn't make sense for them to show that Kurt could've had it all with Adam...but then chooses Blaine because of what? He's a familiar and "safe" option? He can't break Kurt's heart twice in a row? (Oh, yes he can.) He was his first love and therefore Kurt has to remain chained by his side for the rest of his life? The known evil is better than the unknown? I don't get it. Maybe Kurt feels he doesn't deserve true happiness.

[MoviesAreLife]

I just thought of something. Does anyone think that Adam's Apples will be given another song to perform this season? I know they probably will not be given as much spotlight as the New Directions, but it's nice to dream. It will be a shame if we never hear from them again. I want them to be given a better song also. (Sorry, I hate that Baby Got Back song. I've hated it since childhood. Yuck.)

In my dream scene, they'd put on some end of the year performance at the end of season four. I would love to hear them sing "Can You Feel It?" from The Jacksons, with Kurt on MJ's vocals, and with Adam taking Randy's part, of course. It's older, funky (far too funky for The New Directions), and it has a great beat and a great message. It seems like the type of song that this patchwork of "oddballs" would sing, and perhaps something that ND would sing if they weren't currently taken over by Top 40 hits right now.

Also, what is this? http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2381201/ It's been on Chris' IMDB page for forever, as well as the other IMDB pages of his Glee cast members. But there has been no new information on it at all. Is it just going to be another concert moment that will be screened into movie theaters all over the USA, like last time? This will probably play during the summer hiatus in order to keep fans interested in the show.

[Jellyrolls]

I'm thinking Adam's apples will be dropped until Blaine is at NYADA so he can lead them and make them the most popular club in school. And Darren can work with his friends.

[sahhar]

I'm thinking Adam's apples will be dropped until Blaine is at NYADA so he can lead them and make them the most popular club in school. And Darren can work with his friends.

I wouldn't put it past Murphy to actually do that. It's pretty clear what his priorities are

[Divalicious]

If Blaine does get to walk in and take over this will truly piss me off. Kurt, who has joined the Apples when they weren't popular, and defended them from ridicule, should be the one to take it over. This assumption that because Blaine led the Warblers and then ND and therefore should walk into the Apples offends me. Adam started it, and he should get to hand the reins over to whom he wishes, and it should be Kurt, not someone he's never met.

Still crossing my fingers that like the overload of Finchel of Season 3 leading to their break up, the overload of Blaine successes since the beginning are going to come to a crashing end in Season 5. He isn't the most popular boy, he is just one of a thousand thousand talented passes for straight gay guys in showbiz. He isn't the most talented, because he is surrounded by people who are talented. He is coming in to a school that has already acknowledged Rachel and Kurt's superior talents, so get the hell in line. Plus, hopefully he goes there and sees his ex-boyfriend with a sexy Brit. He will be a confused little boy who realizes he has to grow up, and Peter Pan is just a story, not a lifestyle. Then Blaine will finally become the underdog they state him to be, before sprinkling all the fairy dust in all of his scenes. No dancing cheerios shaking their barely covered asses in the background. Blaine will finally have to bring it.

[fantastica]

well, i fully trust RIB to give us worse than the worst we can imagine. So if Blaine comes to NYADA and takes over Apple and sings three songs per episode then that mustn't be the worst they are giving us. they won't stop torturing us until i am physically sick to my stomach and have to throw up everytime glee is on the air.

just wait til you hear even more bleak spoilers coming our way... then double that next season.

[MoviesAreLife]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrYzjLeQ2nk Here is the song, if anyone is curious as to what it sounds like.

Can Blaine just not go to NYC? In fact, I'm fine with just Kurt, Rachel and Santana being there. Like I said, Glee should split into two seperate shows. One show with the original McKinley High format, and then a more adult spin off with NYC. The characters can even criss-cross and "guest star" on the other show once in a while. But I'm not looking foward to everyone, especially Blaine, being there.

[fantastica]

what about that song? someone is singing it? sorry i just don't feel it.

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