Re: Kurt Hummel Spoiler Thread - part 24

[ColferInspired]

There is a new spoiler about 5x19 or 5x20. Apparently Glee filmed a scene with Blaine today. He was being chased by paparazzi. x

Some are speculating that the paps think Blaine is this June's (Shirley McClaine) new boy toy.

So, I think Blaine is trying to pass as straight.

If this is what he does to steal Kurt's opportunity then, this is worse than WSS.

[Jellyrolls]

That must be for 19.  In the script that the crew member (Roderic?) tweeted last week, there was a cast list that included Blaine, and a long list of characters we don't know, and at the bottom was papparazzo.

[ColferInspired]

Chris has paps in his episode.

Imagine if Blaine did tell June that he was straight and Kurt doesn't know.

Imagine if Blaine tells the paps that he is straight.

[Ranwing]

Chris has paps in his episode.

Imagine if Blaine did tell June that he was straight and Kurt doesn't know.

Imagine if Blaine tells the paps that he is straight.

If he does that, I don't thing there is any salvaging Klaine. It's one thing to capitalize on the opportunity that should have been Kurt's (and that's already something very dicy for me). It's another to lie about his relationship and hide Kurt away like he's some kind of dirty secret. I just don't think that's forgivable.

It would be interesting if this benefactor is homophobic and rejects Kurt because he is clearly gay (and picks Blaine because she thinks that he's straight). That would really shift this storyline in a direction that would be very interesting. And while I can't stand Blaine, it would be interesting to see him torn between being true to himself (and by extension his relationship with Kurt) vs playing straight to further his career. But I don't think the writers will do that because that would mean making Blaine look like a real asshole for however long he goes along with it.

[ColferInspired]

Chris has paps in his episode.

Imagine if Blaine did tell June that he was straight and Kurt doesn't know.

Imagine if Blaine tells the paps that he is straight.

If he does that, I don't thing there is any salvaging Klaine. It's one thing to capitalize on the opportunity that should have been Kurt's (and that's already something very dicy for me). It's another to lie about his relationship and hide Kurt away like he's some kind of dirty secret. I just don't think that's forgivable.

It would be interesting if this benefactor is homophobic and rejects Kurt because he is clearly gay (and picks Blaine because she thinks that he's straight). That would really shift this storyline in a direction that would be very interesting. And while I can't stand Blaine, it would be interesting to see him torn between being true to himself (and by extension his relationship with Kurt) vs playing straight to further his career. But I don't think the writers will do that because that would mean making Blaine look like a real asshole for however long he goes along with it.

They have been making him this way for a very long time.

Why not they go the extra mile to see how far his stans will go to defend him.

This has been talked about by fans for a very long time, that the writers are trying to see how bad they can make Blaine, and see how many will still support him.

He used Kurt's attack as motivation for his Winter Critique.

If Kurt was on his death bed he'd probably use it as motivation for his Winter Showcase.

[brisallie]

Those sailors suits are to no number.

But I love this.    

Especially the strapping male soprano part to describe Kurt.   


http://dailykurt.tumblr.com/post/82742193819/cold-open-from-tested

I just woke up and I found this hahaha I like it, is silly and funny, but they send a message lol

As regards blaine, I also wonder how far writers will take this idea that he's pretending to be straight to move forward in his career and see how eager his fans will react. By far I already imagine some will defend him saying things like "How is possible that HW forces some actors to keep in the closet", what is partly true, but it means blaine will be free from all the blame.

[Ranwing]

I loved that they referred to Kurt as the "strapping" male soprano (as the definition of "strapping" is "Having a sturdy muscular physique; robust."). That certainly describes Kurt now (and there's no going back to trying to describe Kurt as having "toothpick arms").    Blaine was described with a behavioral trait (debonair meaning suave or courteous) which, for me at least, is damning with faint praise. Already we're getting the message that Kurt is a stud while Blaine is has a good personality.

Oh, how their roles have been reversed!

[Glorfindel]

If he does that, I don't thing there is any salvaging Klaine. It's one thing to capitalize on the opportunity that should have been Kurt's (and that's already something very dicy for me). It's another to lie about his relationship and hide Kurt away like he's some kind of dirty secret. I just don't think that's forgivable.

It would be interesting if this benefactor is homophobic and rejects Kurt because he is clearly gay (and picks Blaine because she thinks that he's straight). That would really shift this storyline in a direction that would be very interesting. And while I can't stand Blaine, it would be interesting to see him torn between being true to himself (and by extension his relationship with Kurt) vs playing straight to further his career. But I don't think the writers will do that because that would mean making Blaine look like a real asshole for however long he goes along with it.

It would also be very meta, or at least feeding into the crisscolfer tinhatters' fantasies.   
I really doubt they would do that, and I sincerely doubt that Chris would go along with it and write for it in his own episode!
Unless Blaine's behavior in this episode is breaking Klaine up, and in that case it's quite something of RIB to saddle Chris with the episode that will make the Klainers furious.
 
So..... I don't know, I know most of us like to think sometimes that RIB is evil and out to get Chris all the time, but something as damaging as that (forcing Chris to write a Klaine heavy story where Kurt is seen as the lesser of the 2 again, and/or Blaine is a really bad guy again but gets away with it, and/or someone thinking Blaine is the best thing ever and the episode revolving about him and his guest star, and/or Klaine breaking up so the Klainers will crucify Chris, and/or hint at actors being pushed into the closet by PR)..... no, I don't think so, nor do I think that Chris would have been so enthusiastic about his episode as he clearly is.

Of course it could be that Chris simply needs to follow RIB's instructions and continu Blaine's storyline with Shirley MacLaine's character while in the mean time doing 1-2 other plots that he came up with imself, but guest stars and storylines often skip an episode on Glee, so there's a possibility that Blaine being chased by the paps is completely unrelated to his (ongoing?) storyline with SM.

I've been thinking about a storyline in 5x19 where Kurt (or another character) accidentally meets an old (Broadway) star when e.g. returning their dog to the old people's home, and making that old star perform again.
So maybe Blaine trying to dodge paps (when they find out where this old star has been hiding?) has more to do with that and nothing to do with his 5x18 storyline?
Or at least that's what I'm hoping.  

[brisallie]

@Ranwing, so that's the meaning of 'strapping' (I was looking for that term) thanks . Now I like more the description. And fits the episode, as we have seen that Kurt will be praised for his fitted and muscular body.

[Buenos]

In all fairness I don't think the song segueing from the hospital room to the a Winter critique was meant to portray Blaine as manipulative but rather to show his concern for Kurt.

I'm hoping Chris' episode is a whacky subversive humor filled romp. Bring on the comedy!

[brisallie]

@Buenos, do you want Chris episode to be like the old Glee episodes? Like Previously Unaired Christmas? ...but better of course

[Buenos]

@Buenos, do you want Chris episode to be like the old Glee episodes? Like Previously Unaired Christmas? ...but better of course

Yes!  Maybe a shirtless Orderly or Nurse for Kurt?   

[sheny]

“Well, I think this came about because Chris is obviously a very talented writer and we just thought, wouldn’t it be interesting for somebody like Chris who does have a knack for writing and storytelling to be able to do something fresh on the show, and we’ve always had that tradition, you know, we’ve always had that open door that if you were interested in directing… Matt Morrison was interested in trying out, and we let him take an episode that he did so well on. So that’s always been something to me that if anybody has said oh, I’m interested in trying that, let’s do that, and Chris obviously has an interest and a knack for writing, so we gave it a whirl, and it turned out really, really great. I think they’re still shooting some of the episode. I think there’s a couple more days on it, and I know he talked about the casting so I don’t need to, but it was fun. He was very involved in allthat stuff which I think was interesting for him. It was an interesting thing to have an actor, playing a character, getting to write an episode about that character, so it turned out really well and I think everybody’s really happy with it, and I hope next year that he would want to do another one. I think it would be great, and maybe he would even want to direct it.”

—	Ryan Murphy, [Could you talk about Chris Colfer’s episode that he wrote?]

[Buenos]

Ryan talks season 5 and the plans for Season 6

http://tvline.com/2014/04/15/glee-season-6-spoilers-returning-cast/#more-509496

[Buenos]

Sorry but Season Six already sounds likes a hot mess.

He going to invite back EVERYONE? Including Season One people? It's going to be 24 episodes with 50 episodes of storylines crammed in. And reading between the lines, the Noobs are not coming as regulars.

[sheny]

Glee Will Time Jump—and Won't Be in New York—for Final Season


Let the Glee mystery begin!

Creator and executive producer Ryan Murphy has dropped quite the unexpected little bomb about the Fox hit's sixth and final season:

It won't be New York-centric. It will jump forward in time. And it will directly involve only a handful of core characters—although Murphy insists that for the final year, "anybody who wants to come back can come back."

"Everything sort of builds to a head [in the current season's finale]," Murphy explained to a small group of reporters Monday. "I would say explosion is too harsh of a word, but something big happens and then the final season is the aftermath of that."

Tonight's episode, "Tested," gives fans a flavor of what the new "young adult" era of Glee is about: The storylines are heartfelt, intimate and at times, funny, and center on more mature topics, like STD testing, and complex relationship drama for Blaine (Darren Criss) and Kurt (Chris Colfer), and Sam (Chris Colfer), and Mercedes (Amber Riley).

Murphy admits the current season of Glee has had its kinks, but believes the show is undergoing a significant creative resurgence in the next few episodes.

"When Glee first started out, there were six kids in glee club as I recall," Murphy told reporters. "At one point, I felt like it was a cast of thousands, and the Lima stories were all supposed to be through the prism of Cory [Monteith]'s character, and that didn't work out. So you know, we had to punt for a little bit but I think once we got our bearings back, the idea of let's concentrate on six people that we know and love and really work hard on their evolution I think has really served the show well. And that's where we're going."

Murphy also revealed that writers are still grappling with the question of whether Rachel (Lea Michele) should get a new love interest after the tragic passing of Finn (Monteith), saying, "To be quite honest, we just haven't been able to crack it," and adding that he will once again look to Lea for direction. "She's always been so sensitive and so wise in how to handle that stuff," Murphy says.

Murphy also answered definitively whether there were any plans for a spinoff of any character after Glee ends, what fans can expect from the episode that Chris Colfer wrote (and how he might direct next season), and what Murphy is now planning for the very final scene of the series. Read on for the full scoop and conversation….

Can you talk about the decision to move away from McKinley High and move the show to New York?
RM: The big idea, the big plan, of what the series was going to be and how it was going to end was radically changed when Cory passed away. His character Finn was going to take over the Glee club and Rachel was going to be off in her New York adventures, but Cory passed away and part of the story, as we had imagined it, it didn't make sense anymore really, and it felt sad to be quite honest, and I think we collectively, Brad [Falchuk], Ian [Brennan] and myself, made a decision that the freshest thing to do would be a complete clean start. So we really accelerated all of those New York stories and I think that was the right choice, and I think it sort of gave the show a burst of new energy. It feels like a new show to me, and it's much more young adult than it's ever been, this week's episode being the perfect indication of that, but that's the plan, that's why we did it.

What happens to the new kids at McKinley?
RM: I think at some point before the show is concluded, we will definitely catch up with those characters again. We really loved all of those actors and I think they did a great service to the show, so I think at some point before we're done with our next year's run, we'll see many of them again, and sort of find out where they are and check in with them and how being part of that glee club legacy affected their lives, as we do with our original characters.

Can you talk about the rest of this season and how it leads into your idea for next season?
RM: Well you know, Brad and Ian have done such a good job of really, really working on these stories, particularly the New York stories in the past six episodes from 14 through 20, and really what we're sort of zooming in on is what's gonna happen with Rachel's Funny Girl debut. Is it going to be a huge success, is it going to be a flop, and if it is any of those things, where will that turn her? Will it make her want to stay and do more New York shows, will she want to do something else? So sort of that's the main thread of this New York run, and we also follow many of our relationships that we've been… You know, the fact that we have fewer characters now means that we have more time to tell those stories, so for example, you've seen a lot more of the Kurt and Blaine relationship, and we're heading toward what's going to happen to them, you know, and they're pretty much having trouble every episode. We're also going to be dealing with the Sam and Mercedes relationship, so all these things are sort of building to a head in episode twenty, a sort of big, natural… I would say explosion is too harsh of a word, but something big happens and then the final season is the aftermath of that.

Are these NY episodes a preview of what the final season will look like?
RM: They're really not. I mean the final season is really its own story and its own location and while the New York stuff will be alive, the final season is really not New York-centric at all, and you know, Brad is probably going to start talking about that come June. I think we want to have these episodes play out and then he's going to talk about that. But it really is a lovely, fitting season that really dwells on the original people that were on the show and what happens to them and how they give back. That really is the last season, but I'm not going to say more…but we'll revisit some of the new kids that came and went, and there's a return of the Jay and Matt characters in a big way. It's a really interesting, very sweet, satisfying ending to the story.

Is the idea of Kurt going to Russia still in play? Or is that no longer under consideration?
RM: I don't want to say, but you know, the Kurt/Blaine saga is definitely a part of that last year in a big way.

Is the plan for the final season still to be 22 or 24 episodes?
RM: Well this year you know, we did 20 episodes and the reason we did 20 is because basically, we had three weeks delay on and off with our production because of Cory's passing, and there was no way to physically produce those episodes and get them on the air in the month of May, so that's why the order was sort of truncated, so now basically what we're left with is 24 episodes and I think, you know, I can't speak for other people, but for me, doing a straight run-through of 24 episodes just doesn't seem to be viable. It doesn't feel right. So we're looking at how do we take those 24, and do we divide them? What do we do? We're sort of looking at that right now, but I think the main thrust of them will be a final farewell to all of our characters that we've known since season one.

There is a nice moment where we see in this episode that Rachel is not ready to move on past Finn. How much discussion has there been about Rachel's love life?
RM: We talk about this in the writer's room all the time, and I think that that's, you know, it's a really hard, very painful, very difficult thing for the show. I've said it before with even in Cory's eulogy that that was always the ending of the show for me – these two star-crossed lovers getting together and having a happy ending and them both getting their dreams, so the fact that that can't be is a big pain in all of our hearts. So you know, we have to sort of pause and think, well, what are we going to do with Rachel? So this year what we decided to do was to remove the equation of anybody coming in and taking Finn's place because I don't really think that's possible. And I think that worked out quite well and I really like dwelling on Rachel the careerist again, who's going to be a star no matter what it takes and with her friendships, but as for the future, there's a lot of discussion. And it's something that I think we'll consult with Lea about and to be quite honest, we just haven't been able to crack it, because I feel like it's such a sensitive topic and I think the fans have such an idea about it. I think half of them feel like yes, Rachel should go on, and I think half of them probably feel like no she shouldn't, and I probably think, you know, we'll follow Lea's lead as we have so many times this year. And she's always been so great and so sensitive and been so wise about how to handle that stuff, so we have to make that decision in the next couple weeks if not months. Is Rachel going to have another romance or are we going to end it with her… Does Rachel's second half romantically happen when Glee is over, but that's something we're debating. It's hard.

Do you have another idea for a final scene for the show now?
RM: Yes, I mean we do have a final idea that we're working on that I think is very powerful, and moving and you know, it's about Rachel and Mr. Schue (Matthew Morrison) and it sort of returns them to their origins and their roots about how they felt about each other and when they were all much younger and everything was idyllic. But I think you gotta get back, the ending has to be a reflection and a celebration of how far all those characters have evolved, and more than that. I mean we were just talking today in the writer's room about how the world has evolved. I mean if you look at the changes that have happened in the past five years since Glee has been on the air, with the movement towards more gay civil rights with DOMA and gay marriage and the anti-bullying campaign. It's just an amazingly different world that we or these kids live in than they did when we started, and I think the show should end up in some way talking about that, so that's something we're working on right now.

Are you looking at a time jump for next season? Who will be back as a regular?
RM: We are going to do a time jump, and that's really all I'll say. My feeling about the last season of Glee is very clear, and that is that we will be reaching out to all of the regulars on the show, that original group of Glee club members and the teachers, and anybody who wants to come back can come back. Anybody who wants to be a part of the show, we welcome them. I know people are always saying well why isn't Heather [Morris] on the show now, and things like that and the answer to some of these questions from the fans is well Heather is a new mother, she has a young baby, she came and she did four episodes and she really loved it, and I think she would be willing to come back and do a couple but right now, Heather wants to focus on being a mom. But the fun thing about the ending of the show is that there's room for everybody to come back and be a part of it, and I hope they all want to. I think they do. When we just had our big 100th episode celebration I spoke to many of them, and everybody in that cast seems to look back on the show with such fondness and nostalgia and everybody I think wants to come back and end that story correctly, so that's our answer. Anybody who was a part of it who wants to be in that ending, we would love to have you. So I don't ever look at it as if we're inviting these five people back. Some of their characters' stories will be obviously much heavier, that's the way it's always been. Lea has always been predominantly heavy, Darren has been heavy, Chord has been heavy, but anybody who wants to be in it can be in it as far as I'm concerned.

What about the original people? Matt Morrison, Jenna Ushkowitz, Harry Shum Jr., Mark Salling…
Yes, all those people. All those people will be involved in our last season, and even for our upcoming big episode… Not Tuesday, but the one after that, you know, all these characters do keep coming back. Sue goes to New York, Will goes to New York, Tina shows up for Rachel's opening, Santana makes her triumphant return, Mark, Harry, they're all involved and they all wanted to be there. So they do come into the show again.

Can you talk about what you felt has worked or not worked this season? What have you learned from this season?
RM: I think what's really worked and what we really liked is sort of a return to… You know when that glee club first started out, there were six kids in glee club as I recall. At one point, I felt like it was a cast of thousands, and the Lima stories were all supposed to be through the prism of Cory's character, and that didn't work out, so you know, we had to punt for a little bit but I think once we got our bearings back, the idea of let's concentrate on six people that we know and love and really work hard on their evolution I think has really served the show well, so I think in the next year, that's the formula that we will be using, and I think that people really want to follow these people. They want to end the journey with the people they started the journey with.

Could you talk about Chris Colfer's episode that he wrote?
RM: Well, I think this came about because Chris is obviously a very talented writer and we just thought, wouldn't it be interesting for somebody like Chris who does have a knack for writing and storytelling to be able to do something fresh on the show, and we've always had that tradition, you know, we've always had that open door that if you were interested in directing… Matt Morrison was interested in trying out, and we let him take an episode that he did so well on. So that's always been something to me that if anybody has said oh, I'm interested in trying that, let's do that, and Chris obviously has an interest and a knack for writing, so we gave it a whirl, and it turned out really, really great. I think they're still shooting some of the episode. I think there's a couple more days on it, and I know he talked about the casting so I don't need to, but it was fun. He was very involved in all that stuff which I think was interesting for him. It was an interesting thing to have an actor, playing a character, getting to write an episode about that character, so it turned out really well and I think everybody's really happy with it, and I hope next year that he would want to do another one. I think it would be great, and maybe he would even want to direct it.

Can you say anything about the location of next season? Will we see McKinley again?
RM: You might see it again in some very nostalgic way, yes, but I don't want to talk about the location of it…I don't want to say too much because Brad's going to talk about it in June.

Are you still talking about a spin off for any of the characters?
RM: No, the spin off thing was something that, you know, if we were going to do a spin off what we were going to do was do the New York stuff as a spin off, but we ended up not doing that, so not it's not a spin off idea.
Glee airs tonight on FOX.

[tanita_mors]

ok, that kurt in russia storyline needs to die a long hard death. i'm not keen at all.

[Ranwing]

So the episode that Chris is writing will have a lot to do with Kurt? That news makes me very happy. As does the idea of Chris getting to write another episode for season six. And a chance to maybe direct? Build up that CV, Chris...

As for the rest... a whole lot of meh. I get that he's not going to go into too many details so that he doesn't totally spoil the rest of this season, but the last thing I want to see is the graduated characters, hopefully all of them making gains in their respective careers spending a whole lot of time focusing on McKinley (maybe trying to help get New Directions back on track). I can see one ep doing that, but I want to see Kurt and Rachel busy with their careers and not thinking so much about high school where they were both so miserable a lot of the time.

[sheny]

I don't have a good feeling for S6. The last episodes of S5 and S6 were supposed to be about Kurt and Rachel as the leading characters not Blamchel.
Kurt is in NYC and I don't think he is planning to just leave NYADA and go somewhere else so what happens with him if the show isn't going to focus on NY anymore . Ryan says the stories are Lea, Darren and Chord heavy totally forgetting Chris and Naya. Were those "power trio" Daleastreet BS true? Are they going to follow Rachel, Blaine and Sam to Hollywood as some speculated and leave Kurtana in NYC as the minor narrative?

[Buenos]

Two things in this interview don't sound good for Chris/Kurt:

Is the idea of Kurt going to Russia still in play? Or is that no longer under consideration?
RM: I don't want to say, but you know, the Kurt/Blaine saga is definitely a part of that last year in a big way.

He was asked about Kurt and he linked him with Blaine which was not part of the question.

So I don't ever look at it as if we're inviting these five people back. Some of their characters' stories will be obviously much heavier, that's the way it's always been. Lea has always been predominantly heavy, Darren has been heavy, Chord has been heavy, but anybody who wants to be in it can be in it as far as I'm concerned.

So suddenly Chord is a permanent  heavyweight as far as storytelling in Glee with no mention of Chris?

However this does sound good for him:
Per Chris writing on Glee:

I hope next year that he would want to do another one. I think it would be great, and maybe he would even want to direct it.

However as we all know, nothing Ryan says or plans to do is written in stone.  So this whole interview I will take with a GRAIN OF SALT the size of Gibraltar.  If I had a dime for every Ryan statement about the future of Glee that did not pan out.

[sheny]

From the way Ryan taks about Kurt/Klaine it sounds like Blaine will be the main characters from now on and Kurt will be just a supporting characters in Blaine's storylines without a story of his own.

This interview killed all my optimism for Kurt's future on Glee.

[Buenos]

From the way Ryan taks about Kurt/Klaine it sounds like Blaine will be the main characters from now on and Kurt will be just a supporting characters in Blaine's storylines without a story of his own.

This interview killed all my optimism for Kurt's future on Glee.

I'm going to wait and see, with cautious skepticism.  If they do plan a big time jump I suspect they will take them out of school and on their careers as young professionals struggling to get a foot in the performing arts, which is why it doesn't necessarily have to be New York arts centric.

However, I don't think FOX nor RIB will go for another split narrative.  I think FOX has torpedoed that one ever arising again.

With Chris either he will figure prominently or he won't, I'm not going to slash my wrists because everything is so fuzzy. On the one hand, he can write episodes, direct or come out in other shows if he's used sparingly.  However with a stripped down cast I doubt that Ryan will let Chris go as a regular.

[valkeakuulas]

This man is simply talking out of his a**, all the time, every way possible. I can't even pick the things that annoyed me the most, but hurrah for him to sort of admitting that people want to essentially see the very originals end the story of Glee. Surely Murphy doesn't think he's smart and the only one in the world now noticing it?

So S6 will be Lea, Darren and Chord heavy....and don't you just love when even the executive producers loves some of his actors so much that he doesn't even say Rachel, Blaine and Sam heavy. No Chris or Kurt? Oh for f***s sakes this man is annoying.

Oh, and Glee is again explosive because RM tells us it will be.     

And about Blaine perhaps pretending to be straight? Hollywood must be filled with yound actors who pretend to be something they're not. It's not right for their partners but it does excist, so Glee doing it might not be so off-course. Traditionally it would again be horrible towards Kurt but what Blaine does, Blaine does and Kurt doesn't really count.

[M&M]

I thought my Blamchel in LA spec was just that, but I am starting to think its true. Glad to hear they made their money off Chris and now they can admittedly push him behind Bland AND Chord. Also, Rachel clearly has 2 new besties and the thatt is what all the Daleastreet pr has been about. This show is gross. Way to push your actual gay lead to the back.

Kurt will stay to finish college. Next year he may head to LA at some point to pursue his career, following an already sucksessful Bland. Kurt's prize will be Bland.

[Buenos]

TVLINE | Are we going to see McKinley again?
You might see it again in some very nostalgic way, yes, but I don’t want to talk about the location [of Season 6] just yet.

That doesn't sound like a split narrative to me.  He seems to be implying a non New York central location for the characters.  
Ryan also said they would revisit McKinley maybe only in a "nostalgic' way.

So if that's the case, how the hell do you keep Sue on the show as a regular?

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