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Post  tanita_mors 5/22/2012, 5:19 pm

I think the problem was All Broadway All The Time. I still think they just "Have To" do it in the NYADA storyline - maybe not every episode, but it still has to be present - otherwise what is the point which performance arts school they got in. It's the rest of the show that is going to be All Top 40 Pop ALL the time.
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Post  Glorfindel 5/22/2012, 6:28 pm

fantastica wrote:

I don’t think that Kevin was particularly a fan of what I was trying to do with the beginning of this season. We did an episode of all show tunes, we did several of them. There was the West Side Story thing that I loved, but I don’t think the audience did. Kevin wants a Glee that’s about Top 40, pop culture, big stars.
Yay, more pop 40 !!! dryy

I thought the Broadway oriented episodes of season 3 were some of the best. I hope they find a good balance, because I don't think I could stomach a NYADA where they study Katy Perry. Evil or Very Mad

Hopefully they will find a balance: pop 40 at McKinley, Broadway at NYADA.
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Post  fantastica 5/22/2012, 6:34 pm

I think the mckinley people will sing most of the songs. i doubt kurt will sing much. I have a feeling that the more fox gets to say on the show the worse it will be - more top 40, more pop culture, less showtunes and oldies and things today's young people won't have much interest in. fox is about money. its not about creativity, or high art. we will also expect less drama. they want more brain numbling happy singing like jumping on tables while singing katie perry. yay!

I highly doubt we will be singing NYADA practices much. maybe a little for rachel. yes I am a big skeptic and sorry about this negative talk but I don't want to raise my hopes high. yes kurt will be in ny, but (1) he won't be singing more; probably a lot less; and (2) he won't be dating anyone. the best we can expect is that he won't be w/ blaine for awhile. anyone who wants more than that have to rely on fanfics, or write their own.
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Post  sahhar 5/22/2012, 7:44 pm

Anybody know if American Idol finishes on time or if it finishes earlier/later than scheduled?.

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Post  kac 5/22/2012, 8:12 pm

It can on occasion run a couple of minutes over, which luckily isn't a problem for me, I will be watching it on the Canadian channel.
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Post  sahhar 5/22/2012, 8:23 pm

Oh, thanks Smile .

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Post  arina 5/23/2012, 2:46 am

He has Jessica as a mentor for something next year so they are planning some future for him but I am worried it's gonna be rather unconvincing after this "NYADA" season. Based on what Chris said that Jessica does what he always wanted and intented for Kurt I assume it has something to do with fashion. I always wanted Kurt to pursue fashion but because he would want to, not because his dream to go to NYADA failed, which is going to be. I don't like it at all. :angry:
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Post  kac 5/23/2012, 2:49 am

What you said Arina, if he "settles" for something and sings less and becomes a Rachel accessory, I won't be watching season 4. If he is a Lima Loser, I won't be watching season 4. If the only good thing he has in his life is Blaine (and I like Blaine), I won't be watching season 4.
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Post  CloveGlee 5/23/2012, 2:55 am

If he ends up having a fashion career, he should have been working on that all year.

This. Was. Not. Entertaining. In. The. Slightest. It wasn't effective in any way, unless you actively hated Kurt and enjoyed watching him get kicked in the teeth.

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Post  arina 5/23/2012, 2:59 am

CloveGlee wrote:If he ends up having a fashion career, he should have been working on that all year.

This. Was. Not. Entertaining. In. The. Slightest. It wasn't effective in any way, unless you actively hated Kurt and enjoyed watching him get kicked in the teeth.
I agree, like I said, I always wanted Kurt to pursue fashion career, but its very very very late for it. Maybe if he got into NYADA and he realized later that it is not the right for him. But no this. This season they made all just about wanting to perfom and going into music school and nothing else, so it does not make any sense.
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Post  BlueJazz 5/23/2012, 4:43 am

'Glee' Season 4: Chris Colfer and Lea Michele on what's next for Kurt and Rachel
Wipe the tears from your eyes, Gleeks. Just because some of our favorite New Directions members finally graduated from McKinley High doesn't mean that Season 4 of "Glee" isn't going to be just as amazing as the previous three. But we'll have to wait until the fall to find out what it will entail, because cast members like Chris Colfer and Lea Michele both tell Zap2it they're not exactly sure what's happening.

"[I know] very little, like a light sprinkling of what they're planning," admits Colfer. "I don't know -- it sounds pretty cool. I'm interested!"

Colfer says he is looking forward to what adventures Kurt gets up to in New York City. "I'm really excited just for him to get older and to see where his life takes him. He's a really really powerful character and I'm really interested to see where he goes."

But where does Colfer want him to go? "The offices of Vogue. I want him to be Anna Wintour's assistant, and then of course I want him to sing at night. Maybe he goes to Joe's Pub occasionally and has a random concert with him and two people. And then eventually I want him to be the editor in chief of Curtain Magazine, which combines fashion and show choir."

Michele didn't give specifics, but says she's looking forward to Rachel's adventures in Season 4. "I'm very excited about my storyline for next year for sure," she says.

Jane Lynch does know one thing about Sue Sylvester in Season 4: her baby will arrive in the fall. "She's due in September. I do know that. Either she'll be a newborn or I'm gonna give birth onscreen, I don't know."

So there you have it: the only concrete thing we know about "Glee" Season 4 is that Sue's having a baby. What do you hope happens next year?


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Got this translation from ontd_glee:

I know that Chris said this:
"[I know] very little, like a light sprinkling of what they're planning," admits Colfer. "I don't know -- it sounds pretty cool. I'm interested!"

But I think he's trying to say this:
"I know that my character is alive and they plan to keep him that way" admits Colfer. "I really hate being on this show. I can't break free"

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Post  Glorfindel 5/23/2012, 6:54 am

BlueJazz wrote:
"[I know] very little, like a light sprinkling of what they're planning," admits Colfer. "I don't know -- it sounds pretty cool. I'm interested!"

Colfer says he is looking forward to what adventures Kurt gets up to in New York City. "I'm really excited just for him to get older and to see where his life takes him. He's a really really powerful character and I'm really interested to see where he goes."

But where does Colfer want him to go? "The offices of Vogue. I want him to be Anna Wintour's assistant, and then of course I want him to sing at night. Maybe he goes to Joe's Pub occasionally and has a random concert with him and two people. And then eventually I want him to be the editor in chief of Curtain Magazine, which combines fashion and show choir."
This all start to point like Kurt will go into fashion after all. :(

I don't want to criticize Chris for his enthusiasm, but if he really thinks that his fans will be excited to see Kurt go into fashion, after him desperately wanting to be a performer all season long and getting all kinds of hurt because of it..... sorry, then Chris is missing a lot.
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Post  ColferInspired 5/23/2012, 7:05 am

I don't know how recent these spoilers are or anything. But maybe they shot two endings, and decided to go with the one they used.

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Ask Ausiello Spoilers


Question: How is next season of Glee going to work exactly, what with half the show being set in New York and the other half at McKinley? —Jenny
Ausiello: This is subject to change, but it’s my understanding that they’re taking a Lost-like approach to Season 4 — devoting whole episodes to one location or the other. In other words, the premiere might be set at NYADA with Rachel and Kurt, while Episode 2 could focus on the first day back at McKinley. Smart way to go, IMHO.

Question: Please tell me Glee will actually be shooting in New York next season and not on some cheesy Hollywood backlot outfitted to look like New York. We can tell the difference. —Melissa
Ausiello: And so, apparently, can Ryan Murphy. “We’re coming to New York,” the Glee boss insists. “Nothing is in stone, because we’re still budgeting, but I would love to come once every five weeks and shoot a lot of scenes there. We are 100 percent doing that; we’re not going to do it all on a soundstage. That was one of the fun reasons to do [the storyline].”

For all we know this could be all a big joke and the Season starts and Kurt is at Nyada. Continuity doesn't exist on this show. Kurt Hummel Spoiler Thread--part 4 - Page 10 357632081
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Post  tanita_mors 5/23/2012, 7:08 am

I think Chris just wants to see his character doing something that makes him happy and fun. While it's great acting material, I'm pretty sure all this "pain porn" isn't all that fun to portray and read episode after episode. It get so fucking depressing.

I only hate the fact that it's going to seam like he is settling for fashion because he just isn't good enough for preforming arts. If that is the truth, why were they pushing so fucking hard NYADA and performing arts or bust ???

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Post  ColferInspired 5/23/2012, 7:10 am

Glorfindel wrote:
BlueJazz wrote:
"[I know] very little, like a light sprinkling of what they're planning," admits Colfer. "I don't know -- it sounds pretty cool. I'm interested!"

Colfer says he is looking forward to what adventures Kurt gets up to in New York City. "I'm really excited just for him to get older and to see where his life takes him. He's a really really powerful character and I'm really interested to see where he goes."

But where does Colfer want him to go? "The offices of Vogue. I want him to be Anna Wintour's assistant, and then of course I want him to sing at night. Maybe he goes to Joe's Pub occasionally and has a random concert with him and two people. And then eventually I want him to be the editor in chief of Curtain Magazine, which combines fashion and show choir."
This all start to point like Kurt will go into fashion after all. Kurt Hummel Spoiler Thread--part 4 - Page 10 1371890812

I don't want to criticize Chris for his enthusiasm, but if he really thinks that his fans will be excited to see Kurt go into fashion, after him desperately wanting to be a performer all season long and getting all kinds of hurt because of it..... sorry, then Chris is missing a lot.

He has to do this it is his job he could be jeapordising. He probably hates it, and he will get backlash from it. There will be fans attacking him on why didn't he stop it if he cared about the character so much.

Chris could suffer for this, and I hate RIB so much. Kurt Hummel Spoiler Thread--part 4 - Page 10 1371890812
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Post  BlueJazz 5/23/2012, 7:19 am

Glorfindel wrote:
I don't want to criticize Chris for his enthusiasm, but if he really thinks that his fans will be excited to see Kurt go into fashion, after him desperately wanting to be a performer all season long and getting all kinds of hurt because of it..... sorry, then Chris is missing a lot.

Yup, I agree with you. I sort of hope those are not his true words or maybe we have interpreted them wrongly, though. Maybe he's saying that because he's tired of Kurt being the second best after Rachel ? I have no idea. I wish he gives an explanation about what happened to kurt in the finale but I don't think he'll do it. :(

Right now, I can't believe everything that Chris is saying about Kurt and Glee already. He did say things will be good and look how it turns out to be? I don't blame him, though. I know it's his obligation. But, it doesn't make me hurt less and I may have to avoid the coming interviews :( I hope I'm strong enough to do that :(

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Post  tanita_mors 5/23/2012, 7:21 am

I don't think the actors have any REAL POWER when it come to the direction of their characters, especially if it clashes with the Baroness's vision (not to mention, he sounds awfully petty and vindictive to me, so getting on his bad side could be hazardous for ones character's fate and one actor's future).
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Post  Glorfindel 5/23/2012, 7:22 am

^True, he has to be positive. But it is no secret that Chris wanted Kurt to go into fashion.
It is not him being enthusiastic about it that I'm a bit miffed about, it is the dismissing of Kurt's performing dreams and his struggle all year to get there.
Even if it's all for publicity: if Kurt really is not getting into NYADA or the performing arts at all, Chris could have been a bit more careful with this.
We all know he says what he wants, and does not care about PR that much.

Again: I don't want to criticize Chris for this, but if Kurt does not get into NYADA Chris' excitement for next season, no matter if he is getting paid for it, is a bit tactless.
If he's enthusiastic about Kurt going into fashion, he does not get the uproar and upset of the Kurtsies for the waste of a whole season of Kurt's angst.

But now, we don't know what will happen. I think Kurt will go into fashion, because Chris mentioned fashion for Kurt in the past few days, and he didn't do that all season: the last time was when season 3 started and it became clear that Kurt wanted to be a performer.
The fact that Chris has mentioned fashion for Kurt now at least 2 times is quite telling, imo.

Maybe Im reading too much into this and Kurt will get into NYADA after all, and Chris is excited about that.
But for now I doubt it.


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Post  arina 5/23/2012, 7:27 am

Glorfindel wrote:
This all start to point like Kurt will go into fashion after all. :(

I don't want to criticize Chris for his enthusiasm, but if he really thinks that his fans will be excited to see Kurt go into fashion, after him desperately wanting to be a performer all season long and getting all kinds of hurt because of it..... sorry, then Chris is missing a lot.
I have the feeling since the interview about SJP doing something he always intented for Kurt came out so I cannot say I was really that surprised about what happened in this episode... if that interview didn't happen it would not occur to me at all, because there were only articles about Rachel and Kurt going to New York adventures everywhere... But like that I was prepared.

And I am not sure if actors can see the show the same way as fans do... I think they perceive it in very different way.
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Post  Glorfindel 5/23/2012, 7:29 am

arina wrote:And I am not sure if actors can see the show the same way as fans do... I think they perceive it in very different way.
That's true, but I'm still disappointed by it.


But again: maybe Kurt will get into NYADA after all, and that's what Chris is excited about.
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Post  ColferInspired 5/23/2012, 7:35 am

This season I know I feel was to punish Chris.

I don't want him to cop any backlash, but I feel he will.

He has probably been told to tow the line and speak positive all the time. He is being careful now, and I think we won't hear him speaking his mind regarding this show anymore. He wants to stay on Glee.

This is the only paycheck he is getting. If I was him I wouldn't want to jeapodise that either.

I hope no-one starts bombarding Chris with tweets about this. He doesn't deserve that. Kurt Hummel Spoiler Thread--part 4 - Page 10 1371890812
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Post  BlueJazz 5/23/2012, 7:40 am

^ It's ok, Marie. I don't think you're reading too much into it. I get where you're coming from when you said you're disappointed. Frankly speaking, I'm disappointed in that interview too. However, I won't blame Chris for that because he may have his reasons for saying that. I just hope we get more explanation from him because I don't think he's happy about how Kurt got screwed over and over again this season just for him to pursue fashion next season. Maybe he just say those words to encourage us to stay positive.

How on earth will Kurt get into NYADA next season after getting the rejection letter ? Is that possible? blinkk

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Post  arina 5/23/2012, 7:41 am

Glorfindel wrote:
But now, we don't know what will happen. I think Kurt will go into fashion, because Chris mentioned fashion for Kurt in the past few days, and he didn't do that all season: the last time was when season 3 started and it became clear that Kurt wanted to be a performer.
The fact that Chris has mentioned fashion for Kurt now at least 2 times is quite telling, imo.

Maybe Im reading too much into this and Kurt will get into NYADA after all, and Chris is excited about that.
But for now I doubt it.


He mentioned it somewhere month or few months ago but I think he knew back that what will happen.



I want him to go to NYADA afte this whole season as well but honestly it does not seem very probably with this new situation so we should not have high expectations, unfortunately.
But anything can happen and they will change their ideas thousand times during the summer I think.
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Post  tanita_mors 5/23/2012, 7:45 am

Why would anyone be twitter bombing Chris ? He doesn't write this show and he is entitled to his own opinion about the material he is getting. Maybe he likes it even if we all don't or maybe he can't really say he hates it because it is his job.

People need to take a step back, for heavens sake. It's just a tv show. (this isn't directed to anyone here).

I just feel that people are going overboard. I'm as disappointed as the rest of you about Kurt's fate, but it is what it is. It's one of the many things I wish didn't happen or happened differently on this very flawed show. Sucks to us I guess.
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Post  ColferInspired 5/23/2012, 7:56 am

I wonder when Chris will start tweeting again?

Some fans think that Chris gets what he wants and probably think this is what he wants for Kurt, and then attack him for lieing about wanting Kurt to have a happy ending. Those are the fanatics. They are the ones that would twitter bomb. Though I don't think it would happen.

I'm sure Chris isn't happy, but like I keep saying this is his job. I think he has to take a step back and just treat this as a job from now on, which is probably what he is doing.

I'm sure he is disappointed like all of us. Kurt Hummel Spoiler Thread--part 4 - Page 10 1371890812
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