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Post  Jellyrolls 9/20/2015, 6:34 pm

Ranwing wrote:I'm going to go out on a limb here. Given that it seems like only a few bidders are paying the most money for certain items, I'm thinking that these aren't actually fans but more likely professional memorabilia dealers. They're picking up items related to the most high-profile performers (including Adam Lambert) in the hope that if these actors continue to rise in their careers, that the value of these items will increase for later resale. If Chris (or Darren) really hits it big at some point, then these items associated with the earlier stage of their careers might increase markedly in value.

This is just too much money to think that it's fans pouring the kind of money we're talking about into FOX's coffers to pick up a bunch of old costumes.

I'm thinking that mostly about the Chris stuff, since a lot of it went to the same buyer. The prices for Chris related stuff really went up by the second day.

I was watching the bidding for a while, and one of the things that I saw was one paddle number spending about $4000 to get the elf costumes that Kurt, Rachel, and Santana wore in Previously Unaired Christmas.

I think a lot of the Darren stuff went to fans, though, just based on the fact that a lot of them have been bragging about their purchases on Tumblr, and also the fact that his stuff didn't seem to be going as high (though the Warbler outfit went high, and some of the outfits went for close to a grand, many of them went for less than $500).

One thing that I found interesting was that Lea's stuff didn't seem to be generating as much interest as the others. She did have more outfits than the rest, but most of her outfits seemed to go for under $300.

Another thing that I found interesting was that a lot of Kitty stuff went unsold. I thought she had enough of a fan base to sell her stuff, but I guess not.
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Post  ColferInspired 9/20/2015, 7:30 pm

Well, one person did spend over $20,000 for all of Kurt's outfits, as someone said on tumblr.
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Post  Glorfindel 9/21/2015, 9:23 am

From the General Glee Discussion thread:
ColferInspired wrote:Character Related Lots


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Wow, Kurt's stuff sold really well. Part of that may be explained by his clothes mostly being designer (although they'd be several years behind in fashion now) in comparison to the other characters, but still: that's a lot of money someone spent. Shocked

Of course: this chart is not an exact representation on how much people were willing to spend on a character's items, as there were a lot more items on sale from Rachel, Kurt and Blaine than e.i. for Artie and Tina. But on the other hand: they probably put those items up for auction that they thought would sell well.

But lol: so much for the Blarrenstans meticulously keeping stats on tumblr the past weeks as they have been boasting that Blaine (and Klaine) would probably sell the best because he was the most popular and the others sucked and  blahh.

I agree with you, @Ranwing and @Jellyrolls, about who probably bought the most items. I've seen several posts on tumblr and twitter from Blarren stans about them bidding on/buying k(B)laine items, so I'd say it's a good bet most of his stuff went to those fans. The specific coveted by his fans Klaine items like Kurt's locker's Klaine pics and their wedding rings (ugh) being sold at such a high price, and also Blaine's Warbler outfit, only seem to confirm that assumption.
Lea's outfits going for under $300 per auction lot would also suggest mostly her fans buying her clothes. Same for the others.

Because of that one bidder who bought so many Kurt outfits Kurt became the best seller (so to speak) of the auction, and therefore the results are a bit skewed. Although my guess is that Kurt would have sold just as well as Rachel and Blaine without that one bidder being so fanatic enthusiastic.
So either there is a very smart celebrity memorabilia collector who bought so much of the Kurt outfits as an investment in the hope that Chris will become more famous over the years and therefore his old Kurt clothes will be of more value later (and there's also the happy circumstance that Kurt wore designer clothes, which in itself would add to the collectors items' value), and that alone should say something about how insiders in the showbizz see Chris' potential. Wink 
Or there is a quite rich but also quite creepy Kurt stan out there, building his/her own private Kurt museum in their mansion's cellar.  areu Razz


Stray obeservations:
- Elliot's stuff sold quite well, even though he was only in a few episodes. Must be the Adam Lambert factor.
- There is no Mercedes in the charts?!
- I thought Finn's stuff would have sold better, but tbh I don't know how many of his items/props were for sale: it could be that because of Cory they didn't put that much of Finn's stuff in the auction.  -ETA-  I just saw on tumblr that Finn only had 6 lots to auction, so that explains that.
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Post  Jellyrolls 9/21/2015, 12:03 pm

This part of the post about the stats gives you the exact numbers for what was sold (including Mercedes):

April: 18 Lots
Total - $3,175
Average - $176.39 / $198.44
Lots Unsold - 2 (11%)

Artie: 35 Lots
Total - $3,925
Average - $112.14 / $145.37
Lots Unsold - 8 (23%)

Becky: 15 Lots
Total - $875
Average - $58.33 / $175
Lots Unsold - 10 (66.67%)

Beiste: 12 Lots
Total - $1,000
Average - $83.33 / $125
Lots Unsold - 4 (33.33%)

Blaine: 41 Lots
Total - $35,300
Average - $860.98
Average without Warbler Blazer - $645

Brittany: 43 Lots
Total - $14,325
Average - $333.14 / $349.39
Lots Unsold - 2 (5%)

Brody: 3 Lots
Total - $400
Average - $133.33

Burt: 6 Lots
Total - $425
Average - $70.83 / $106.25
Lots Unsold - 2 (33.33%)

Cassie: 8 Lots
Total - $2,050
Average - $256.25

Dani: 5 Lots
Total - $2,875
Average - $575

Elliott: 9 Lots
Total - $6,000
Average - $666.67

Emma: 36 Lots
Total - $5,200
Average - $144.44 / $152.94
Lots Unsold - 2 (5.56%)

Figgins: 4 Lots
Total - $225
Average - $56.25 / $112.50
Lots Unsold - 2 (50%)

Finn Related: 6 Lots
Total - $6,950
Average - $1,158.33

Holly Holliday: 18 Lots
Total - $4,025
Average - $223.61

Jake: 12 Lots
Total - $1,850
Average - $59.09 / $185
Lots Unsold - 2 (17%)

Jane: 11 Lots
Total - $2,800
Average - $254.55 / $130
Lots Unsold - 6 (54.55%)

Jesse: 3 Lots
Total - $700
Average - $233.33

Karofsky: 6 Lots
Total - $825
Average - $137.50

Ken: 5 Lots
Total - $300
Average - $60 / $150
Lots Unsold - 3 (60%)

Kitty: 17 Lots
Total - $2,575
Average - $151.47 / $243.09
Lots Unsold - 6 (35.29%)

Kurt: 80 Lots
Total - $58,825
Average - $735.31

Lauren: 6 Lots
Total - $850
Average - $141.67 / $170
Lots Unsold - 1 (16.67%)

Marley: 31 Lots
Total - $4,600
Average - $148.38 / $164.29
Lots Unsold - 3 (9.68%)

Mercedes: 42 Lots
Total - $4,950
Average - $117.86 /
Lots Unsold - 10 (23.81%)

Mike: 15 Lots
Total - $2,025
Average - $135 / 144.64
Lots Unsold - 1 (6.67%)

Puck: 24 Lots
Total - $7,100
Average - $295.83 / $308.70
Lots Unsold - 1 (4.17%)

Quinn: 34 Lots
Total - $13,395
Average - $393.97

Rachel: 156 Lots
Total - $40,075
Average - $256.89 / $258.55
Lots Unsold - 1 (.64%)

Roderick: 3 Lots
Total - $225
Average - $75 / $112.50
Lots Unsold - 1 (33.33%)

Roz: 6 Lots
Total - $400
Average - $66.67 / $100
Lots Unsold - 2 (33.33%)

Rupert: 4 Lots
Total - $200
Average - $50 / $100
Lots Unsold - 2 (50%)

Ryder: 9 Lots
Total - $1,375
Average - $152.78 / $196.43
Lots Unsold - 2 (22.22%)

Sam: 22 Lots
Total - $5,425
Average - $246.59 / $258.33
Lots Unsold - 1 (4.55%)

Santana: 79 Lots
Total - $24,100
Average - $305.06 / $308.97
Lots Unsold - 1 (1.27%)

Shelby: 14 Lots
Total - $3,225
Average - $230.36

Spencer: 5 Lots
Total - $950
Average - $190 / $237.50
Lots Unsold - 1 (20%)

Sue: 60 Lots
Total - $12,395
Average - $206.58 / $229.54
Lots Unsold - 6 (10%)

Sugar: 27 Lots
Total - $2,425
Average - $89.81 / $134.72
Lots Unsold - 9 (33.33%)

Sunshine: 6 Lots
Total - $750
Average - $125

Terri: 6 Lots
Total - $200
Average - $33.33 / $100
Lots Unsold - 4 (66.67%)

Tina: 63 Lots
Total - $7,894
Average - $125.30 / $157.88
Lots Unsold - 13 (20.63%)

Unique: 20 lots
Total - $1,775
Average - $88.75 / $136.54
Lots Unsold - 7 (35%)

Will: 20 Lots
Total - $4,300
Average - $215 / $238.89
Lots Unsold - 2 (10%)

Kurt's stuff earned more than $18,000 more than Rachel, and more than $20,00 more than Blaine. If you take out the Warbler's uniform that someone really overpaid for, and Kurt's stuff earned more than double what Blaine did. Yes, Kurt had more lots, but without the Warbler blazer, Kurt's stuff earned an extra $200 an item.

So, clearly, someone thinks that the Kurt stuff will increase in value.
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Post  Buenos 9/21/2015, 2:26 pm

I guess this only belongs in the "Snark and Bark" but I do think Chris will work again with Ryan and company within the next 5-10 years.

Understandably, Chris wants a break from all Glee (and RIB) related stuff, but he also has an evident fondness for the personnel/crew that Ryan employs, so if the right role arises , I can definitely see Chris pondering it.

What I think is that Chris will probably never be as optimistic/"naive" again about a character role he has limited control over . The same thing goes for Jane Lynch, Matt Morrison, Naya Rivera and Dianna Agron. It is show biz, aka a business.
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Post  fantastica 9/21/2015, 2:28 pm

^ we don't know. my guess is probably never. but my guess is only as good as yours.
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Post  Buenos 9/21/2015, 5:11 pm

Oh I agree none of us knows for sure!

I guess my snark and bark opinion is more that I don't think Chris hates/ despises Ryan Murphy and company as much as the fandom IMO seems to automatically think he does.

What I do think ( again speculation) is that because of his successful writing career Chris will be much more selective with any future acting choices/ projects , which I'm good with even though I always want more !

With Glee gone, my Chris news doses are way down, knew it was coming, but still hard to get used to. coool
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Post  fantastica 9/21/2015, 6:04 pm

I'd rather have less chris news, than having so many blood-pressure raising news coming in that's all about klaine klaine klaine and WTFery of glee.
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Post  Buenos 9/21/2015, 7:54 pm

Oh I can't disagree with that! neutre
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Post  Jellyrolls 9/22/2015, 2:15 pm

I wouldn't be surprised to see Chris work with Ryan again at some point, but I picture it being more a movie or a limited recurring role. I can't imagine that the last few seasons of Glee were very satisfying for him as an actor, and I could see Chris being reluctant to sign another long term contract to work wit Ryan.

I also think it will be several years before we'll see him work with Ryan again. I think he has enough contacts in Hollywood that he will try to work with other people before he goes back to work with Ryan again. It would be a smart career move for him to test the waters, and find work with other showrunners/directors.

I don't think Lea or Darren are doing their careers any favors by signing on to work with Ryan again for their next mainstream project post Glee (though Darren did Hedwig and has that indie movie that he filmed in Italy that he has been badmouthing in between). They run the risk of looking like Ryan is the only one who would hire them if they keep working with just him. Ryan does like who he likes, though. He has a lot of people that he seems to use regularly on his projects.

I have to say, I do wonder how many (if any) projects Chris has had to turn down because of the ever changing start date for Noel. It just seems like the start date gets changed over and over again, and it could just quietly fall away.
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Post  Buenos 9/22/2015, 8:22 pm

Jellyrolls wrote:I have to say, I do wonder how many (if any) projects Chris has had to turn down because of the ever changing start date for Noel.  It just seems like the start date gets changed over and over again, and it could just quietly fall away.  

Chris had said he was booked up for the next 2-3 years when Glee ended, and yet 8 months later he hasn't been able to start Noel, though a couple of months ago he said he hoped to start filming by year end so we'll see.
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Post  ChrisColferFan1 9/22/2015, 9:11 pm

I hope Noel starts soon. If not I will not blame him if he takes another role,before he films Noel.
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Post  fantastica 9/22/2015, 9:50 pm

Noel is not in Chris' control. It's not unusal for movie projects to be delayed so i wouldn't worry about it.
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Post  ChrisColferFan1 9/22/2015, 10:07 pm

fantastica wrote:Noel is not in Chris' control. It's not unusal for movie projects to be delayed so i wouldn't worry about it.


I now Noel is not in Chris'True it is not unusual for movie projects to be delayed. I just hope we get news that filming is going to start. I hope Chris did not turn down projects he would of taken if not for Noel, who's start date keeps and keeps on changing.
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Post  mindschemez 9/23/2015, 4:51 pm

Crisscolfer fans/DC stans are awful people. Avoid Tumblr/Twitter, or better yet, spam with positivity. There's another "riot." And on the day Chris will guaranteed be on social media because of his Periscope q&a. Go figure.

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Post  Buenos 9/23/2015, 5:12 pm

Seems "Scream Queens": premiered to disappointing ratings despite being the most hyped and publicized new  TV show of the fall.

Methinks the GA already knows Ryan Murphy's shtick (mean insulting jokes that are post PC in tone) and is tired of it.
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Post  Jellyrolls 9/23/2015, 7:30 pm

mindschemez wrote:Crisscolfer fans/DC stans are awful people. Avoid Tumblr/Twitter, or better yet, spam with positivity. There's another "riot." And on the day Chris will guaranteed be on social media because of his Periscope q&a. Go figure.

For those who don't have tumblr, this stems from a video of Darren talking with Alan Cumming where he basically says that though he knows, Chris doesn't like when people make them a "couple," he finds it amusing, and then he proceeded to talk about his "mandate" with Chris to the Sutton Foster concert, which Alan Cumming called the "gayest thing ever."

Buenos wrote:Seems "Scream Queens": premiered to disappointing ratings despite being the most hyped and publicized new  TV show of the fall.

Methinks the GA already knows Ryan Murphy's shtick (mean insulting jokes that are post PC in tone) and is tired of it.

The promotion show has been insane. All of the commercials during the Emmys was beyond annoying. And they really do seem to be everywhere. With a cast that includes Lea Michelle, Nick Jonas, Jamie Lee Curtis, and Jamie Lee Curtis, it really should have done better in the ratings.
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Post  Ranwing 9/23/2015, 8:12 pm

Scream Queens seems to be suffering from several problems. First, I think that the GA is a lot less enthusiastic about RIB projects after having been burned before. Glee's epic crash is all but legend now, but this is the norm for all of his projects that lasted more than a few seasons. Nip/Tuck had a similar collapse. AHS is starting to falter around the same time in its life that Glee did. He's got a reputation for starting strong, but then things fall apart in a rather spectacular manner.

The subject matter is a problem too. First, the balance of horror and comedy isn't nearly as innovative as Ryan Murphy is trying to make it out as. And several people who saw the show noted that SQ seems to deviate rather sharply between the two elements. There have been talks about the characters being rehashes of concepts that he's used before (like the ice queen bitch, the crazy woman in authority and the straight-passing gay guy). There have also been several articles written about the openly racist jokes that left a very bad taste in people's mouths.

Fortunately for Lea, she often gets cited as one of the better things about the show, but it's starting to seem like this project is going to be a big crash and burn.
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Post  Glorfindel 9/23/2015, 8:24 pm

Jellyrolls wrote:
mindschemez wrote:Crisscolfer fans/DC stans are awful people. Avoid Tumblr/Twitter, or better yet, spam with positivity. There's another "riot." And on the day Chris will guaranteed be on social media because of his Periscope q&a. Go figure.

For those who don't have tumblr, this stems from a video of Darren talking with Alan Cumming where he basically says that though he knows, Chris doesn't like when people make them a "couple," he finds it amusing, and then he proceeded to talk about his "mandate" with Chris to the Sutton Foster concert, which Alan Cumming called the "gayest thing ever."
OMG, can he just shut the fuck up?    antifana

Darren really doesn't have any respect at all for his former co-star, nor does he care about the consequences and renewed harassment his pandering to the crazy tinhatters (which he did AGAIN today, smh) causes for Chris. :angry:


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Post  Buenos 9/23/2015, 8:47 pm

What's amusing about all this is Chris doesn't acknowledge any of it now that Glee has ended.

No mentions, zero, nada, absolutely nothing. its actually funny. Razz
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Post  Jellyrolls 9/23/2015, 8:53 pm

Glorfindel wrote:OMG, can he just shut the fuck up?    antifana

Darren really doesn't have any respect at all for his former co-star, nor does he care about the consequences and renewed harassment his pandering to the crazy tinhatters (which he did AGAIN today, smh) causes for Chris. :angry:

Why would he show any concern or respect for Chris now when he hasn't shown him any respect for years?
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Post  Jellyrolls 9/23/2015, 9:06 pm

If you want to see Darren proving once again what an inconsiderate douchebag he is, you can see the video in the hidden area (in spoiler tags so that you don't have to see the bastard if you don't want to:  

Spoiler:
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Post  Ranwing 9/23/2015, 10:05 pm

Buenos wrote:What's  amusing about all this is Chris doesn't acknowledge  any of it now that Glee has ended.

No mentions, zero, nada, absolutely nothing.  its actually funny.   Razz

Exactly - and it shows just how desperate Darren is in trying to keep some tenuous link to Chris alive. I mean, how pathetic is it to tell a story that's five years old when everyone is well aware that once Glee ended, Chris has pretty much cut off all contact with Darren. I don't know what Darren thinks that he has to gain at this point if his career is doing so well.

And making a joke about how uncomfortable the tinhatters makes Chris while he thinks it's funny just screams straight privilege. Darren can play gay and queer bait the crazies, but he doesn't have to shoulder the consequences because he's straight. Chris is going to have to fight the prejudices of his industry for the whole of his career. He doesn't get to take the gay off when it becomes inconvenient professionally. He's the one who has to deal with the harassment and threats and having the man he's been involved with for several years referred to as a "friend".

And I'm really losing a lot of respect for Alan Cumming for playing along with this. As a bisexual man, he should know better.
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Post  Jellyrolls 9/23/2015, 10:55 pm

Alan is the new Jesse Tyler Ferguson.
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Post  Buenos 9/24/2015, 12:16 am

It's amusing how the social media assholes have been trumpeting that the Nole Coward movie was dead in the water, and Chris in one swift move basically says "STFU, the movie is going to be made and it's going to be better than ever."

Or at least that is how I translated his Periscope mentions of Noel. Razz

While I expect the Ab Fab movie to be a cameo, with 2 movies and another big book deal Chris is more than fine.

Can't wait for his wit and bite to come out in his Ya novel about fandom , the meta alone on fan fiction should be heavenly!!! phr34r
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