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Post  ChrisColferFan1 on 6/10/2014, 8:47 am

I hope Chris will be in little as possible for season six . If I could have only one thing to happened in season 6,it would be for Kurt to totally break-up with Blaine.

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Post  sjonnepon on 6/10/2014, 9:33 am

tbh, i'm just happy that these spoilers aren't about Kurt.
I thought they would do something with Kurt actually.
Making Blaine and Rachel big stars and then Kurt the "loser" who goes back to the glee-club.
So i'm happy that it's Blaine and Rachel who go back. I don't care about them.
Let Kurt stay in NY or let him go to where-ever. Anything better than Lima.
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Post  Jellyrolls on 6/10/2014, 9:47 am

This sounds all kinds of horrible. Like horrible beyond horrible.

And I'm annoyed that we are going to be forced to endure the horrible acting of Alex Newall again.

Sounds like RIB is taking the easy way out. No need to develop and cast new characters when you can bring back the horrible characters partially responsible for killing your show to act with the weak actors (I'm talking to you Darren and Chord) who are also possibly responsible for killing the show.

The only good thing is maybe Chris will miss most of the crap because of his movie.

BTW, I'm going to change the title of this thread to the season 6 discussion and spoiler thread (and close up the old season 5 spoiler thread).

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Post  Ranwing on 6/10/2014, 10:06 am

I have a feeling that with Glee going into it's last season, FOX has just given up on salvaging anything of this show so RM has free reign to do whatever he wants. It's not going to be any loss to the network at this point since they're just running out the clock.

Very little of this storyline makes any kind of sense. You're going to take Rachel, the girl who has been shown time and time again that she will allow nothing (and no one) to stand in the way of her goals of stardom. If she has any professional opportunities available, she will steamroll over anything to make it happen. So either they're going to give Rachel a total personality transplant and have her basically throw away any upcoming prospects in order to rebuild ND. Or she's at loose ends at the moment - maybe the pilot tanked and since she burned her bridges at NYADA and the Broadway theater world there aren't any current prospects for her and this is part of her effort to reinvent herself (since Rachel nearly never does anything for someone else unless she benefits in some way). Obviously the second option would make more sense given how they've completely mangled Rachel's storyline the past two seasons but I'm betting they're going to have hugely successful Rachel come swanning in (in between projects) to save the day at McKinley.

As for Blaine, I can see them having him strugglng somewhat in his professional career to justify him woring as Schu's assistant with VA. It would be refreshing for the show to actually look at what happens when you have someone who is talented (at least in the Glee universe) and doesn't immediately find stardom (and not using Kurt to do so). As for Kurt... the only smart way to justify why he isn't in Lima glued to his greasy little fiance's side is because he has found some kind of success and is currently working (and can conveniently return to Lima to help when his run is finished or he's completed production on his film).

As for Schu... I feel so sorry for Matt that he's got to deal with this kind of crap. Just when it looks like he's managed to escape this mess, they drag him back in to play ND's adversary. The only way that they can make this at all tolerable for me is for Schu to temper the unwavering "win at all costs" mentality at VA and have them perform just because they love to do so.

There is a part of me that is taking a lot of malicious glee (no pun intended) at seeing what an utter disaster the final season is shaping up to be and the other part is cringing because I know that I'll be watching this bullshit.

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Post  Glorfindel on 6/10/2014, 10:07 am

sjonnepon wrote:tbh, i'm just happy that these spoilers aren't about Kurt.
I thought they would do something with Kurt actually.
Making Blaine and Rachel big stars and then Kurt the "loser" who goes back to the glee-club.
So i'm happy that it's Blaine and Rachel who go back. I don't care about them.
Let Kurt stay in NY or let him go to where-ever. Anything better than Lima.
True.
At least we won't have to watch the Glee Blamchel/Daleastreet season 6.

The kledding will be inevitable unfortunately, but I can live with Kurt safe in New York building his career for most of season 6.
The worst thing that could happen actually, is for Kurt to get a lot of focus, because it would 99.9% probably mean he'd be turned into a Groom/Bridezilla and/or a Stepford wife to Vocal Adrenaline's coach' assistant (lol, assistant) Blaine.

Now if I was sure that they would sideline Kurt deliberately again for another season, in favor of Blaine/Blamchel, when Chris would not be okay with that, it would be another matter. And part of me still thinks that it's an awful and shitty way of Glee/RIB to treat their only true breakout star (character and actor).
But with Chris happily being busy with 'Noel', 'Robocop', TLoS and possible other projects, combined with the absolutely horrific writing of Glee and the state the show is in now when it comes to ratings and critical acclaim, I'm fine with it. Let Daleastreet go down with the sinking ship.

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Post  Glorfindel on 6/10/2014, 10:37 am

Ranwing wrote:(---) Obviously the second option would make more sense given how they've completely mangled Rachel's storyline the past two seasons but I'm betting they're going to have hugely successful Rachel come swanning in (in between projects) to save the day at McKinley.
I won't take you up on that bet because I think that's exactly what's going to happen.
Maybe her tv series is a success and they will make a reality show sort of special, going back to the real roots of tv star Rachel Berry: her high school show choir. Her leading ND could be nothing more than a publicity stunt for herself and her tv-show. A bit like the Glee Project was for Glee itself.
At least that would still be in character for Rachel, lol.  Rolling Eyes 

As for Blaine, I can see them having him strugglng somewhat in his professional career to justify him woring as Schu's assistant with VA. It would be refreshing for the show to actually look at what happens when you have someone who is talented (at least in the Glee universe) and doesn't immediately find stardom (and not using Kurt to do so).
Won't happen. Blaine is as special snowflake blessed as Rachel is.

Maybe his VA stint will be a sort of NYADA work placement/trainee post for Blaine.
Or maybe Blaine will be brought in by VA because he's so successful in his career and they can use him as a publicity stunt, and possibly get his father's sponsorship in the process. Remember that VA is the creme de la creme of show choirs according to Glee Universe: it could be that RIB will sell Blaine's involvement with them as an honor for VA and/or a rare, very much sought after career opportunity for Blaine (you betcha that Blaine would get it then and not Kurt).

As for Schu... I feel so sorry for Matt that he's got to deal with this kind of crap.
This. It feels like a deliberate way to insult Matt and degrade his character even more.
Lbr, Ryan would.


There is a part of me that is taking a lot of malicious glee (no pun intended) at seeing what an utter disaster the final season is shaping up to be and the other part is cringing because I know that I'll be watching this bullshit.
As long as Kurt and Chris are relatively safe from this guaranteed mess and can leave this battlefield with nothing more than a through-and-through flesh wound (the Klaine wedding) I'll be hate-watching right along with you.
Schadenfreude is a beautiful thing when there's nothing/noone more in the disaster you're invested in.  fanny2

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Post  Buenos on 6/10/2014, 11:32 am

That sounds about right that FOX would want to wrap up the train wreck that is Glee by December.  So 10-12 episodes with Chris gone for at least 4 of those episodes. I can live with that.  Thank goodness for the "Noel" movie because Kurt back in homophobic small minded Lima to be mocked /marginalized again, ugh,  no thank you.  Let him be successful off screen somewhere else at this point.  They are just running out the clock which means 10 filler episodes as opposed to 22 if they had a whole season.

If this was another show Rachel returning to Lima to spearhead the revival of Glee choir would be cracky black comic fun, with Rachel more interested in her own career interests then actually helping New Directions.  It would be the reality show of Rachel trying to be self sacrificing and failing spectacularly.  Rachel  would sing in the choir room all the numbers, etc. but alas knowing RIB they will play Rachel's role straight as the savior of Glee "straight".

Blaine and Sam back in the HS glee choir setting  makes more sense because of how "dumbed down" they maintained those characters.  It's just Blam adventures in a high school again and Ryan can think of new ways for Sam to appear shirtless.  RIB simply can not make them work in an adult setting with adult dynamics so back to the infantilized shtick of running down high school corridors in super hero underoo outfits.

Plus As it stands it just seems a lazy way to keep Matt and Jane tied to the last season of Glee.  Coach Sylvester really doesn't work anywhere  except at Lima/Mckinley.  She's a caricature that needs McKinley to highlight her comic venom and I don't doubt FOX insisted she be returned to a featured role for the last season.

Poor Matt is doomed to be the bouncing board for a new set of faceless students, and of course it will all climax in, wait for it, a nationals performance.

However since none of the current cast can actually sing again in HS choir it will be behind the scenes productions which will make the drama even more contrived and forced.

Maybe they will pull a HIMYM and have the whole season occur in the week of the Nationals competition with all the graduated ND kids returning and rallying to help out Rachel win . Rolling Eyes 

This means most likely more Becky and Coach Roz in Season 6.  

More Becky.    Shocked 

Doubt that Mercedes and Artie will figure much in this McKinley world either.

Again, thank goodness Kurt will be away from this mess.  My guess is FOX will do little if any PR/marketing for this last season, as Glee is a lost cause.  I suspect we won't see the majority of the episodes on screen even in the spring.

Once they finalize the episode order then  it will be amusing to see the cast rushing to try to  line up their post Glee commitments.
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Post  fantastica on 6/10/2014, 12:26 pm

part of me thinks that this may be just another wild idea they are throwing out to gauge the public reaction. even if it's true, it may last only a couple of episodes. they are not going to introduce 11-12 new MAIN characters in teh choir room. 

on the other hand, they are running out of ideas. used to be throwing everything but the kitchen sink onto the wall to see whatever that sticks. now it's like throwing everything down the kitchen sink including the sink itself. since rating is no longer a concern, they may be able to stuff the whole house down the drain as well.

since rating is no longer a concern, if i were the writer, i would turn rachel into a porn star. i mean, chances are her tv series fails and since she is no longer employable in theater, she is running out of options. blaine will be an internet "sensation", giving acting tips on youtube - all they need to do to succeed in show biz is being severely constipated. NYADA, meanwhile, stopped recruiting in Lima Ohio because 2 of its students ended up ruining the school reputation as the best of the best performing art school in the world.

rachel and blaine are the last people in the world who would return to lima let alone teaching high school show choirs. sam maybe. but not rachel and blaine. the show is running out of ideas and are desperate to give these 2 characters something to do. 

since the only people watching are rachel and blaine (and sam?) stans they might as well be turned into hollywood stars or something - why not please the stans more? those who hate these 2 or 3 are long gone. it's actually more reasonable than turning them into high school show choir directors/assistants at Lima. rachel would sleep her way to many small and medium roles on tv. Blaine would be casted in a few horror/slashers and become a teen heartthrob and rely on BIs and breakup/back-together rumors on tabloids to stay relevant.

about Mr. Schue - they've thrown him under the bus after S1 and after S2 he's completely trashed. nothing can make him look worse - anybody still care about Mr. Schue?
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Post  Lottie2303 on 6/10/2014, 12:39 pm

I have no words for the recent developments. I am flabbergasted how Glee always manages to exceed even my worst expectations.

I doubt Chris will he heavily involved as he is busy. In general, it feels like many older cast members are gone for good. Well, this is a train wreck about to happen. Who in their right mind believes this SL will be successful?  blinkk 
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Post  Buenos on 6/10/2014, 12:52 pm

http://www.eonline.com/news/549504/spoiler-chat-scoop-on-homeland-teen-wolf-orphan-black-fargo-house-of-cards-and-more

Spoiler Chat: Scoop on Glee
Veronica: I’m still trying to come to terms with Glee ending next season. There are so many guest stars I want back so we can say a proper goodbye. What do you know?
We know one actress who might be coming back for one last hurrah: NeNe Leakes. The Real Housewives of Atlanta star told us she’s been in talks to pop up once again. “I hope I’m back for Glee's final season as well,” NeNe told us. “We've been talking back and forth, I'm hoping to be back. I've done it for three seasons. I'm happy to go there, I love the cast, I love Ryan Murphy, I'm happy to go back.”


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Post  fantastica on 6/10/2014, 12:55 pm

^ LOL i am sure the fan didn't care about NeNe.
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Post  brisallie on 6/10/2014, 1:04 pm

These stupid writers dont learn, why don't focus on their current characters instead of bringing people who I'm sorry to say this, but don't add nothing to the plot. If they bring back Nene, that it means we will have MK again, I don't see her anywhere else.

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Post  fantastica on 6/10/2014, 1:06 pm

one thing i am VERY HAPPY about this new spoiler is that it brought everybody back here again.  Razz
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Post  Ranwing on 6/10/2014, 1:06 pm

Lottie2303 wrote:I have no words for the recent developments. I am flabbergasted how Glee always manages to exceed even my worst expectations.

I doubt Chris will he heavily involved as he is busy. In general, it feels like many older cast members are gone for good. Well, this is a train wreck about to happen. Who in their right mind believes this SL will be successful?  blinkk 

The thing is that it doesn't need to be successful. There's no chance in hell of Glee being renewed and it's not going to be up for any kind of awards so it doesn't matter how awful the show is, or how dismal the rating become (I don't think they've hit rock bottom yet). Glee is just going to be filling a blank spot in the schedule.

The storyline is awful and I've never been so happy in my life to have absolutely nil in the way of Kurt spoilers. Thank all the gods that Chris got himself a major film role that will keep him out of this mess. If production is set to start as usual, he can conceivably miss as much as half the season! And this is a good thing to me.

I actually feel sorry for the rest of the cast, Lea especially. As much as I get frustrated at her being treated with kid gloves because she's RM's pet, this is the kind of thing that won't help her career at all. I don't think we can look at this where any work can help you. I have the feeling that the reception for this storyline is going to be so toxic that it will actually hurt the actors involved. Not that I give a crap about Darren or Chord, but Lea does deserve better and this isn't going to help her career at all. At best, this won't help them but I can really see their prospects damaged by being so prominently tied to this disaster.

I still cannot believe what a total clusterfuck this show has become.


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Post  Buenos on 6/10/2014, 1:13 pm

Lol, Paltrow will have an episode as Holly and of course the Warblers /Dalton will come back, as well as what happened to Becky post high school special episode of Glee. I'm wondering ( and hoping) that Chris requested several months off because of Noel .

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Post  Georgette888 on 6/10/2014, 1:37 pm

brisallie wrote:These stupid writers dont learn, why don't focus on their current characters instead of bringing people who I'm sorry to say this, but don't add nothing to the plot. If they bring back Nene, that it means we will have MK again, I don't see her anywhere else.

Er, MK? McKinley? Have you read the rest of the thread? S6 is McKinley.
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Post  brisallie on 6/10/2014, 1:40 pm

fantastica wrote:one thing i am VERY HAPPY about this new spoiler is that it brought everybody back here again.  Razz

Something positive that has Glee  Razz 

@Georgette, I skipped that part, but yeah I just read Glee is going back to MK. Also I read the 'speculation' that Rachel might end being a teacher in Lima...what the hell? Is true sometimes we complain she gets everything easily, but still I never expected to see her going back to lima. Her dreams are bigger.


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Post  Buenos on 6/10/2014, 1:46 pm

My hunch is that .6 Season finale ratings for Glee isn't the bottom floor.  So if they come back in January or February with a .5 or lower, FOX will pull it off the schedule roster so quickly and just burn it off in the summer.

They will probably wrap up NY/LA in a couple of episodes to start the season (Kurt off doing musical theatre in Moscow)  and then have Rachel return to Lima at the blackboard debating Gaga versus Perry versus Sondheim.

The possible scenarios are fascinating in a rubbernecking horrific scene of a car accident kind of way.  I suspect that character will revert back to their "high school" shtick, though I wonder how they will have Rachel and company lose their virginity again.
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Post  Glorfindel on 6/10/2014, 2:39 pm

fantastica wrote:about Mr. Schue - they've thrown him under the bus after S1 and after S2 he's completely trashed. nothing can make him look worse - anybody still care about Mr. Schue?
I do. I've never been able to stop rooting for Mr. Shue, not even after he treated Kurt so horribly.
He was supposed to be my avatar on Glee, the inspiring teacher with love for music, and they totally wasted him.  dryy 

And besides for Mr. Shue: Matt Morrison deserves better than this.


fantastica wrote:one thing i am VERY HAPPY about this new spoiler is that it brought everybody back here again.  Razz
Ha, that's true.
We never miss an opportunity to complain about Glee.  Smile


With Chris gone to London to film 'Noel' for 2-3 months while Glee is also shooting its final season this not only means that Kurt probably will mercifully be spared from getting much focus (who ever thought that not getting much focus on Glee would turn out to be a blessing in disguise one day, huh?) and/or being mostly used to prop up Rachel and Blaine's storylines, but it also means he'll probably be spared from coming back to Lima to be heavily involved in the glee clubs.
They of course will be able to film his Kurt scenes in a bunch either before or right after his London trip, but logistics probably won't allow for him to film many (boring, long hours) performance/choir room scenes, as in that case they would have to postpone and/or group together all the choir room scenes just for him, so every actor who is needed in the choir room for those scenes has to adjust their schedule to when Chris will be available, and I don't see them doing that.
This alone would prevent Kurt from being sucked into this "lets go back to Lima to battle each other over stupid high school show choir drama again" idiotic storyline.

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Post  brisallie on 6/10/2014, 6:33 pm

@Marie, unlike you I never rooted for Mr. Schue, but I've to admit he could had his good moments of teacher. But I agree that Matt Morrison deserves better, and is a pity he is not allowed to do other things as he's still committed to Glee. Seriously, what's the point of the choir competition, people stop caring seasons ago. And I don't want hardcore gleeks, if there are still one, saying 'but that's the core of Glee, how everything started', yeah is (kinda) true but I just feel the spark that made you feel the competition was lost when RIB started to repeat the stories and believed the newbies had that something special the original cast had.

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Post  ChrisColferFan1 on 6/10/2014, 6:44 pm

I sure hope Chris will be gone for a lot of season six. I don 't want Klaine to be married and be engame. If Klaine must be married and be engame, I hope the wedding takes place off screen. I doubt that would happen, most likely there will be an entire episode on the wedding.

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Post  ColferInspired on 6/11/2014, 12:05 am

The three that have big storylines are Rachel, Blaine and Sam and these will by the looks of it be in Lima.

Kurt must stay in New York along with Artie and Mercedes.
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Post  Glorfindel on 6/11/2014, 7:06 am

ColferInspired wrote:Kurt must stay in New York along with Artie and Mercedes.
Imo he's in the best of company then.  fanny2

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Post  Buenos on 6/11/2014, 1:10 pm

Yup,

number of early "spoilers" for storylines for Kurt, Santana, Artie and Mercedes for Season 6.

Big fat Zero.

Not surprised, but still, and I'm sorry, even if Chris and Kevin are making movies, you can incorporate a SL that can be talked about.... but still, not shocked.  Lea is the leading  star of Glee, that's been  there since day one, and Darren has been one of the lead characters the last couple of years, but for the life of me, how Chord Overstreet leapfrogged to the  top of the heap despite IMO being one of the weaker actors and singers on Glee is beyond me.
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Post  fantastica on 6/11/2014, 1:18 pm

i like mr. schue and thinks he's a good man, but i don't care for him, not since S2. i cared for him a lot in S1 though, especially about that baby-gate thing.
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