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Post  Lottie2303 on 6/3/2013, 8:53 am

I have never been the biggest fan of Will and his obsession with Finn was creepy from the very beginning. I also think Will was by default the most supportive teacher FOR bullying and discriminating the outcasts, as he pretended to be the opposite but did everything to ensure the popular kids actually receive a lot of spotlight and ignored when the outcasts where actually in need of help. I still don’t get why Artie or Kurt couldn’t have been the leading man, because that would have been revolutionary. It was only a stupid ‘Rachel needs to date’ plot.

Also the relationship with Terri spoke volumes. He was willing to be in a bad relationship just because his wife was hot. He only considered leaving her, once he met someone else. He never considered divorcing Terri because he was in an unhappy relationship or because she treated him badly. I hate that.

But, all adult characters were necessary to keep a balance. So it is a shame they got sidelines so much.

I also entirely agree Glee needs to stop stunt casting. Isabelle was needed for more episodes then provided and I don’t get why they don’t want to have actors they can actually include for more episodes if needed. Especially because Isabelle is not a difficult part (another reason it is BS to nominate SJP). Any actress with talent could have portrayed her.
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Post  ColdFlame96 on 6/3/2013, 8:57 am

Lottie2303 wrote:I have never been the biggest fan of Will and his obsession with Finn was creepy from the very beginning. I also think Will was by default the most supportive teacher FOR bullying and discriminating the outcasts, as he pretended to be the opposite but did everything to ensure the popular kids actually receive a lot of spotlight and ignored when the outcasts where actually in need of help. I still don’t get why Artie or Kurt couldn’t have been the leading man, because that would have been revolutionary. It was only a stupid ‘Rachel needs to date’ plot.

Also the relationship with Terri spoke volumes. He was willing to be in a bad relationship just because his wife was hot. He only considered leaving her, once he met someone else. He never considered divorcing Terri because he was in an unhappy relationship or because she treated him badly. I hate that.

But, all adult characters were necessary to keep a balance. So it is a shame they got sidelines so much.

I also entirely agree Glee needs to stop stunt casting. Isabelle was needed for more episodes then provided and I don’t get why they don’t want to have actors they can actually include for more episodes if needed. Especially because Isabelle is not a difficult part (another reason it is BS to nominate SJP). Any actress with talent could have portrayed her.

I felt the same way with Matt Bomer. Don't get me wrong: I love him! But they had the potential to really explore Blaine's home life and give him some much needed character development, but instead they had to get done big shot actor that we'll probably never see again just to make themselves look good.
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Post  Lottie2303 on 6/3/2013, 9:17 am

Yeah, Matt Bomer is a great example. Also special guest stars want to have juicy parts, which takes away the focus of the main characters. Those should be the ones receiving focus and more layers, not the guest stars!

Rachel’s Dad weren’t really there to support Rachel. They existed to highlight the actors.

Matt Bomer was about Matt Bomer and not so much about Blaine. The issues presented in those episodes also always disappear. So Blaine was jealous of not receiving all attention? Poor baby (/sarcasm). However, it is never mentioned again.

Isabelle was about SJP wearing pretty clothes and singing ‘At the Ballet’ totally dismissing Kurt’s internship.

Kate Hudson is a different story as she was created and used for Rachel. However they butchered her character by having her fawn over Rachel as well. Also Rachel had zero development, as it was actually Cassie who seemed to learn from Rachel and changed her personality. Only on Glee…

Karey Segal is also a different story, as it was actually a sweet scene. Still, how often can they actually use her? She actually has great potential to be Burt 2, but her celebrity status will prevent that.
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Post  MoviesAreLife on 6/3/2013, 11:38 am

Oh, I loved Katy Segal! Not enough screentime!

I think the most pointless stunt casting they did was Ricky Martin.

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Post  AnneNeville on 6/3/2013, 12:56 pm

We were discussing Child Stars (and problematic ones) the other day, and this wonderful article came out:

7 Reasons Child Stars Go Crazy (An Insider's Perspective)

It's by child-star Mara Wilson, who was in Mrs. Doubtfire and Matilda and some other things before going on to a rather normal life and deciding to become a writer. She saw and experienced a lot of what I was talking about in the posts above. If you were interested by the discussion, it is highly worth reading, as are her links to the article about Billy Ray Cyrus and how Miley's management had basically cut him out of her life before she was even 18!

It's hard to imagine the intensity of the "bubble" stars find themselves in, what with PR and assistants and management and agents, etc. This is part of why (perhaps) I get more annoyed that others on the board when I see certain things. I think more about the level of planning that goes on behind the scenes.

Anyway, this is well worth reading if you watch the Glee stars' lives and wonder "What the heck?" or have wondered where a kid-star went off the rails, or even just want a glimpse into celebrity through a child's eyes.

I am glad Chris was 19 when he got his first job. Hopefully he can keep the management and yes-men factor in check. It's such hard work!

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Post  AnneNeville on 6/3/2013, 12:58 pm

valkeakuulas wrote:This Mr. Brown really hates Blaine and Glee, although most of his examples are from S3. (Which I admit was the beginnig of the downhill!) He might not have watched S4 with a analyzing mind on.

I can only imagine how harsh the media will turn if Glee continues like they did this year. The critizising ones have been there but not really calling them out. I think a lot of their trusted, sponsored reviewers got pissed of at the end of the season when they didn't release the advance copy for the All or Nothing.


Haven't most of the serious reviewers already given up on reviewing the show? And no we are left with recappers and sychophants?

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Post  AnneNeville on 6/3/2013, 1:03 pm

ladydianab wrote:I may be slapped for saying this: but.. so I was looking on the ChrisColfer tag on tumblr (I don't know of any others) and someone had clips of the Barbra Streisand episode where they dance in the mall. It was so fun and they looked like they were having fun. I miss those days and I didn't think about the comparison of then and Now. Chris was having the time of his life and it showed!! so did the rest. Chris has maintained his incredible ability to act out any scene with all he's got! but this season I didn't see the fun or the passion. I miss that. In his real life it shows that Chris is truly having a good time. This is only my observation and I could be totally wrong because I wasn't on the set so I don't really know. There was just so much missing this season in my opinion as a viewer.

BTW, what has happened to Chris' second movie? We haven't heard anything have we? I know his TLOS2 comes out August 6 and I wonder how much of a book tour there might be. He seems to always have a pretty busy schedule. I wonder if these next couple of weeks is considered "vacation" or break or maybe he is working.

It is difficult to tell whether the joy has gone out of the show (I mean the set as a whole), out of Chris, or whether it's just the storylines he's been handed. I am sure that if the writers managed to give him a great story we'd see a perky, happy Kurt (like in the all-to-brief Adam scenes), though, because Chris is a professional. Interviews seem to suggest he's a bit fed up right now, but he delivers top-notch work anyway.

Just let him have something he can get excited about and he'll be having fun again (IMHO) to whatever extent the Glee set permits (ie, if it's gotten to be toxic for one reason or another on that set, it might not be a nice place to work, and a good storyline can only go so far to fix that).

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Post  AnneNeville on 6/3/2013, 1:06 pm

Glorfindel wrote:
Buenos wrote:Cory had two movies that bled into the beginning of filming last fall, but I doubt Glee woukd be as flexible in the middle if the season with episodes front and back loaded.
Except when it's precious Darren Criss of course. He could go do his Broadway stint in the middle of the season, missing 3 weeks of filming and almost 2 episodes, and not only have a whole tribute episode dedicated to explain his absence, but also have a triumphant comeback with a song!
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Well, I think that Glee got some "press" out of letting Darren do Broadway. It's a bit different than letting someone out to do a film, because the publicity and buzz came immediately. Films take a long time to get made, edited, and released, so I suspect that they'd be less willing to release any of their actors to do a film role. Glee could be cancelled before it came out, thus no profit for them . . .

And now, as we all know, Glee has Darren Criss: Broadway Star to their credit. And therefore he's equal to Lea and Jenna and Matt. Right? ptdr

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Post  MoviesAreLife on 6/3/2013, 1:07 pm

AnneNeville wrote:We were discussing Child Stars (and problematic ones) the other day, and this wonderful article came out:

7 Reasons Child Stars Go Crazy (An Insider's Perspective)

It's by child-star Mara Wilson, who was in Mrs. Doubtfire and Matilda and some other things before going on to a rather normal life and deciding to become a writer. She saw and experienced a lot of what I was talking about in the posts above. If you were interested by the discussion, it is highly worth reading, as are her links to the article about Billy Ray Cyrus and how Miley's management had basically cut him out of her life before she was even 18!

It's hard to imagine the intensity of the "bubble" stars find themselves in, what with PR and assistants and management and agents, etc. This is part of why (perhaps) I get more annoyed that others on the board when I see certain things. I think more about the level of planning that goes on behind the scenes.

Anyway, this is well worth reading if you watch the Glee stars' lives and wonder "What the heck?" or have wondered where a kid-star went off the rails, or even just want a glimpse into celebrity through a child's eyes.

I am glad Chris was 19 when he got his first job. Hopefully he can keep the management and yes-men factor in check. It's such hard work!

I have a very hard time feeling sorry for any of these people who go off the rails. It IS possible to remain sane, a good person, and productive while in that business, and Chris is the proof. These other idiots have no excuse, IMO.

Wasn't Chris 18 years old? Barely 18 when he auditioned and got the part (August 2008) and 18 when he filmed the first several episode of season one, if Glee making its TV debut on May 19th, 2009 (still before his 19th birthday) is anything to go by.

Oh, and apparently, Charice (Sunshine) is a lesbian. Good for her for coming out. Smile

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Post  AnneNeville on 6/3/2013, 1:08 pm

MoviesAreLife wrote:Matthew is insanely talented. He is probably the most well-rounded triple threat in the entire cast. I assume that they put him on the backburner because the show became all about the kids. I'll admit, I identify with the kids more than the adults. Whenever there is an adult storyline, I tend to just tune it out...like the Wemma wedding.

Sad thing is, I actually dislike Mr. Schue so much that it gets in the way of wanting to watch Matt on film/video. I think if he did a Broadway show, I'd feel differently (distance from stage + illusion of theatre makes a big difference).

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Post  AnneNeville on 6/3/2013, 1:09 pm

MoviesAreLife wrote:
AnneNeville wrote:We were discussing Child Stars (and problematic ones) the other day, and this wonderful article came out:

7 Reasons Child Stars Go Crazy (An Insider's Perspective)

It's by child-star Mara Wilson, who was in Mrs. Doubtfire and Matilda and some other things before going on to a rather normal life and deciding to become a writer. She saw and experienced a lot of what I was talking about in the posts above. If you were interested by the discussion, it is highly worth reading, as are her links to the article about Billy Ray Cyrus and how Miley's management had basically cut him out of her life before she was even 18!

It's hard to imagine the intensity of the "bubble" stars find themselves in, what with PR and assistants and management and agents, etc. This is part of why (perhaps) I get more annoyed that others on the board when I see certain things. I think more about the level of planning that goes on behind the scenes.

Anyway, this is well worth reading if you watch the Glee stars' lives and wonder "What the heck?" or have wondered where a kid-star went off the rails, or even just want a glimpse into celebrity through a child's eyes.

I am glad Chris was 19 when he got his first job. Hopefully he can keep the management and yes-men factor in check. It's such hard work!

I have a very hard time feeling sorry for any of these people who go off the rails. It IS possible to remain sane, a good person, and productive while in that business, and Chris is the proof. These other idiots have no excuse, IMO.

Wasn't Chris 18 years old? Barely 18 when he auditioned and got the part (August 2008) and 18 when he filmed the first several episode of season one, if Glee making its TV debut on May 19th, 2009 (still before his 19th birthday) is anything to go by.

Oh, and apparently, Charice (Sunshine) is a lesbian. Good for her for coming out. Smile

Ah, he was 18 when cast? ::nods:: *

I think it's worth looking at the article. It deals with actual child stars, not 18 year olds (adults legally). Child stardom is a whole different thing, which is what we were discussing above.

* ETA: Glee was very lucky to get him, then. I think his streak of not getting parts would have ended with almost anything he auditioned for right after he turned 18, because he had the magic quality that is so hard to find: Over 18 (no problem with child labor laws) yet looks much younger. And very talented. If Glee hadn't gotten him, he'd have very likely gotten something soon after!

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Post  MoviesAreLife on 6/3/2013, 1:14 pm

AnneNeville wrote:
MoviesAreLife wrote:
AnneNeville wrote:We were discussing Child Stars (and problematic ones) the other day, and this wonderful article came out:

7 Reasons Child Stars Go Crazy (An Insider's Perspective)

It's by child-star Mara Wilson, who was in Mrs. Doubtfire and Matilda and some other things before going on to a rather normal life and deciding to become a writer. She saw and experienced a lot of what I was talking about in the posts above. If you were interested by the discussion, it is highly worth reading, as are her links to the article about Billy Ray Cyrus and how Miley's management had basically cut him out of her life before she was even 18!

It's hard to imagine the intensity of the "bubble" stars find themselves in, what with PR and assistants and management and agents, etc. This is part of why (perhaps) I get more annoyed that others on the board when I see certain things. I think more about the level of planning that goes on behind the scenes.

Anyway, this is well worth reading if you watch the Glee stars' lives and wonder "What the heck?" or have wondered where a kid-star went off the rails, or even just want a glimpse into celebrity through a child's eyes.

I am glad Chris was 19 when he got his first job. Hopefully he can keep the management and yes-men factor in check. It's such hard work!

I have a very hard time feeling sorry for any of these people who go off the rails. It IS possible to remain sane, a good person, and productive while in that business, and Chris is the proof. These other idiots have no excuse, IMO.

Wasn't Chris 18 years old? Barely 18 when he auditioned and got the part (August 2008) and 18 when he filmed the first several episode of season one, if Glee making its TV debut on May 19th, 2009 (still before his 19th birthday) is anything to go by.

Oh, and apparently, Charice (Sunshine) is a lesbian. Good for her for coming out. Smile

Ah, he was 18 when cast? ::nods::

I think it's worth looking at the article. It deals with actual child stars, not 18 year olds (adults legally). Child stardom is a whole different thing, which is what we were discussing above.

But even then, it is possible to behave. Jodie Foster is a good modern example. Natalie Portman is another.

Older stars too, like Shirley Temple. She was and still is very sane. Her peers such as Jackie Coogan and Peggy Montgomery (Baby Peggy, or Diana Serra Cary) have also had their troubles even back then, but Peggy pulled it together and became an incredible silent film historian and writer. So it is possible to remain sane. I just don't feel sorry for those who don't.

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Post  AnneNeville on 6/3/2013, 1:16 pm

valkeakuulas wrote:I don't think I ever really cared for the adults other than all the actors do a great work. I do too have a soft spot for the aggressive Sue, but that one has been demolished by RIB for the past two seasons.

Will has always been one of the characters I've actively disliked ever since he failed to spot how ruthlessly Kurt was bullied until Kurt was having a panic attac right in front of him. And the music teachers I had were nothing like Will when I grew up...well Will isn't really a music teacher now is he. I would have likeed to have seen how he manages as a history teacher. dryy I don't think Will likes to be a regular teacher.

I thought the very intimate discussion between Rachel and Will in the last ep was very uncomfortable or then I just never developed that close relationship with any of my HS teachers.

I'm pretty sure that phone call was supposed to be to Finn and was left almost unchanged in the script. Lazy, lazy.

Will made me uncomfortable from the beginning. Is Pedo!Will something that the greater viewing population picks up on (like, have you noticed non-Gleeks commenting on his weirdness), or is that a fandom-only thing? I never got over the shower-scene + pot planting, then really didn't get over the scary reaction he had to Terry when he figured out about her fake pregnancy.

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Post  AnneNeville on 6/3/2013, 1:17 pm

MoviesAreLife wrote:
AnneNeville wrote:
MoviesAreLife wrote:
AnneNeville wrote:We were discussing Child Stars (and problematic ones) the other day, and this wonderful article came out:

7 Reasons Child Stars Go Crazy (An Insider's Perspective)

It's by child-star Mara Wilson, who was in Mrs. Doubtfire and Matilda and some other things before going on to a rather normal life and deciding to become a writer. She saw and experienced a lot of what I was talking about in the posts above. If you were interested by the discussion, it is highly worth reading, as are her links to the article about Billy Ray Cyrus and how Miley's management had basically cut him out of her life before she was even 18!

It's hard to imagine the intensity of the "bubble" stars find themselves in, what with PR and assistants and management and agents, etc. This is part of why (perhaps) I get more annoyed that others on the board when I see certain things. I think more about the level of planning that goes on behind the scenes.

Anyway, this is well worth reading if you watch the Glee stars' lives and wonder "What the heck?" or have wondered where a kid-star went off the rails, or even just want a glimpse into celebrity through a child's eyes.

I am glad Chris was 19 when he got his first job. Hopefully he can keep the management and yes-men factor in check. It's such hard work!

I have a very hard time feeling sorry for any of these people who go off the rails. It IS possible to remain sane, a good person, and productive while in that business, and Chris is the proof. These other idiots have no excuse, IMO.

Wasn't Chris 18 years old? Barely 18 when he auditioned and got the part (August 2008) and 18 when he filmed the first several episode of season one, if Glee making its TV debut on May 19th, 2009 (still before his 19th birthday) is anything to go by.

Oh, and apparently, Charice (Sunshine) is a lesbian. Good for her for coming out. Smile

Ah, he was 18 when cast? ::nods::

I think it's worth looking at the article. It deals with actual child stars, not 18 year olds (adults legally). Child stardom is a whole different thing, which is what we were discussing above.

But even then, it is possible to behave. Jodie Foster is a good modern example. Natalie Portman is another.

Older stars too, like Shirley Temple. She was and still is very sane. Her peers such as Jackie Coogan and Peggy Montgomery (Baby Peggy, or Diana Serra Cary) have also had their troubles even back then, but Peggy pulled it together and became an incredible silent film historian and writer. So it is possible to remain sane. I just don't feel sorry for those who don't.

I certainly wasn't asking for pity for the actors. My contribution to the thread above (I think it was on this thread) was about being TORTURED by a child-actor. I just thought some might find the insight into the child-actor world interesting.

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Post  MoviesAreLife on 6/3/2013, 1:23 pm

AnneNeville wrote:I certainly wasn't asking for pity for the actors. My contribution to the thread above (I think it was on this thread) was about being TORTURED by a child-actor. I just thought some might find the insight into the child-actor world interesting.

Oh, I see! Sorry! With all the hype surrounding that annoying Bynes chick, I do believe that there was an article written by a former child actor highlighting the reasons why child actors go insane.

You were tortured by a child actor? What a little monster.

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Post  ColdFlame96 on 6/3/2013, 1:26 pm

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AnneNeville wrote:I certainly wasn't asking for pity for the actors. My contribution to the thread above (I think it was on this thread) was about being TORTURED by a child-actor. I just thought some might find the insight into the child-actor world interesting.

Oh, I see! Sorry! With all the hype surrounding that annoying Bynes chick, I do believe that there was an article written by a former child actor highlighting the reasons why child actors go insane.

You were tortured by a child actor? What a little monster.

I used to really love Amanda Bynes. It just pains me to watch all these stars I used to idolize act like psychopaths. dryy
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Post  AnneNeville on 6/3/2013, 1:28 pm

MoviesAreLife wrote:I stand corrected. I actually do enjoy a few of the adults and their scenes, specifically if they are acting with some of the kids. I love Burt, Emma and Isabelle. Will is a hit or miss with me.

banzai I am not sure about Isabelle (she seemed a little too much of a plot device), but I did like Cassandra July, mean as she was. I wish she hadn't been changed into a Rachel Berry-stan. With time (and if Rachel had listened and Kurt had a contrasting storyline with Cassie), that character could have been interesting.

Though they probably made that storyline impossible as soon as they had her sleep with Brody.

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Post  brisallie on 6/3/2013, 1:29 pm

AnneNeville wrote:We were discussing Child Stars (and problematic ones) the other day, and this wonderful article came out:

7 Reasons Child Stars Go Crazy (An Insider's Perspective)

It's by child-star Mara Wilson, who was in Mrs. Doubtfire and Matilda and some other things before going on to a rather normal life and deciding to become a writer. She saw and experienced a lot of what I was talking about in the posts above. If you were interested by the discussion, it is highly worth reading, as are her links to the article about Billy Ray Cyrus and how Miley's management had basically cut him out of her life before she was even 18!

It's hard to imagine the intensity of the "bubble" stars find themselves in, what with PR and assistants and management and agents, etc. This is part of why (perhaps) I get more annoyed that others on the board when I see certain things. I think more about the level of planning that goes on behind the scenes.

Anyway, this is well worth reading if you watch the Glee stars' lives and wonder "What the heck?" or have wondered where a kid-star went off the rails, or even just want a glimpse into celebrity through a child's eyes.

I am glad Chris was 19 when he got his first job. Hopefully he can keep the management and yes-men factor in check. It's such hard work!

What a coincidence! Yesterday I came across with an old movie of Mara Wilson, she's with a red haired guy, and I thought what's her life now?, why she's not in movies anymore? So thanks for this.

And you know, I'm also glad that Chris started his career at 19, but even at that age they can be vulnerable to the temptations that Hollywood offers. So in the case of Chris, I'm sure it was his upbringing and family what has kept him down to earth.

And I didn't know Miley fired his dad as his manager. But rumours said he was taking advantage of being Miley Cyrus's dad.

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ColdFlame96 wrote:I used to really love Amanda Bynes. It just pains me to watch all these stars I used to idolize act like psychopaths. dryy

Ugh! I know, right?! This is why I love Chris. Smart, cares about the work, talented, a good person, and SANE! Even compared to several of his other Glee cast members, I think he is the best one out of the bunch. Sadly, I can picture quite a few of them going off the rails within 10 years.

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Post  MoviesAreLife on 6/3/2013, 1:34 pm

AnneNeville wrote:
MoviesAreLife wrote:I stand corrected. I actually do enjoy a few of the adults and their scenes, specifically if they are acting with some of the kids. I love Burt, Emma and Isabelle. Will is a hit or miss with me.

banzai I am not sure about Isabelle (she seemed a little too much of a plot device), but I did like Cassandra July, mean as she was. I wish she hadn't been changed into a Rachel Berry-stan. With time (and if Rachel had listened and Kurt had a contrasting storyline with Cassie), that character could have been interesting.

Though they probably made that storyline impossible as soon as they had her sleep with Brody.

Isabelle is just so good for Kurt...I can't explain it. Actually, she was good for Rachel and Santana too. Just a fairy godmother type. So nurturing and caring. wub

I loathed Cassie. I thought she was just too cruel and ridiculous. I'd prefer a supportive Cassie over a cruel one, even if it was just "tough love".

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Post  AnneNeville on 6/3/2013, 1:44 pm

brisallie wrote:
AnneNeville wrote:We were discussing Child Stars (and problematic ones) the other day, and this wonderful article came out:

7 Reasons Child Stars Go Crazy (An Insider's Perspective)

It's by child-star Mara Wilson, who was in Mrs. Doubtfire and Matilda and some other things before going on to a rather normal life and deciding to become a writer. She saw and experienced a lot of what I was talking about in the posts above. If you were interested by the discussion, it is highly worth reading, as are her links to the article about Billy Ray Cyrus and how Miley's management had basically cut him out of her life before she was even 18!

It's hard to imagine the intensity of the "bubble" stars find themselves in, what with PR and assistants and management and agents, etc. This is part of why (perhaps) I get more annoyed that others on the board when I see certain things. I think more about the level of planning that goes on behind the scenes.

Anyway, this is well worth reading if you watch the Glee stars' lives and wonder "What the heck?" or have wondered where a kid-star went off the rails, or even just want a glimpse into celebrity through a child's eyes.

I am glad Chris was 19 when he got his first job. Hopefully he can keep the management and yes-men factor in check. It's such hard work!

What a coincidence! Yesterday I came across with an old movie of Mara Wilson, she's with a red haired guy, and I thought what's her life now?, why she's not in movies anymore? So thanks for this.

And you know, I'm also glad that Chris started his career at 19, but even at that age they can be vulnerable to the temptations that Hollywood offers. So in the case of Chris, I'm sure it was his upbringing and family what has kept him down to earth.

And I didn't know Miley fired his dad as his manager. But rumours said he was taking advantage of being Miley Cyrus's dad.

Miley's management team had--according to the linked article--taken over the management of Miley's career several years before she turned 18. They would call Billy Ray Cyrus in whenever there was a scandal brewing. He had no control over her career by then. Or so the article goes. As I said, reading the Billy Ray Cyrus/Miley Cyrus article Mara Wilson linked is worthwhile, too.

I think Chris has an advantage in that he had years of hearing "no" in response to his auditions, yet he kept trying. He may be surrounded by "yes men" now (not saying he is), but he's also got a clear idea of what roles he WON'T play (always the Gay One) and so now he's able to say "no" to such offers, even if it means he has to make his own work. That puts him in a stronger position than someone who started at five or six years old in terms of handling the ups and downs of Hollywood.

Being famous does NOT seem to be suiting him very well, though (in terms of personal comfort/private life). Once Glee goes away, I bet he'll turn into one of those celebrities about whom we hear little unless there is a major project coming out. My heart breaks for him when I hear stories about what happened in that Florida bar.

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Post  AnneNeville on 6/3/2013, 1:46 pm

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MoviesAreLife wrote:I stand corrected. I actually do enjoy a few of the adults and their scenes, specifically if they are acting with some of the kids. I love Burt, Emma and Isabelle. Will is a hit or miss with me.

banzai I am not sure about Isabelle (she seemed a little too much of a plot device), but I did like Cassandra July, mean as she was. I wish she hadn't been changed into a Rachel Berry-stan. With time (and if Rachel had listened and Kurt had a contrasting storyline with Cassie), that character could have been interesting.

Though they probably made that storyline impossible as soon as they had her sleep with Brody.

Isabelle is just so good for Kurt...I can't explain it. Actually, she was good for Rachel and Santana too. Just a fairy godmother type. So nurturing and caring. wub

I loathed Cassie. I thought she was just too cruel and ridiculous. I'd prefer a supportive Cassie over a cruel one, even if it was just "tough love".

I understand. I think a Cassie who was firm and harsh when necessary but not as cruel as they made her would have been better, but Glee isn't very subtle. Either way, I think that Rachel needs "truth-telling" while Kurt needs "nurturing" (after Blaine) so in that sense the initial choice to give Cassie to Rachel and Isabelle to Kurt was on the money.

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Post  arina on 6/3/2013, 1:48 pm

I don't know if I feel sorry for child actors (although I probably do at least for some) but I rather not judge them harshly because I don't think people who haven't experienced something like this can fully understand what it is it like. And that some are able stay more "sane" than the others? Everyone has differentt personalitities and experiences... I look like I excusing them, I am not at least not fully, they are responsible for their action, but I just think it's really not easy to grow up in this kind of enviroment and many of us wouldn't be able to handle it good either even if we think we would.
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Post  AnneNeville on 6/3/2013, 1:49 pm

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ColdFlame96 wrote:I used to really love Amanda Bynes. It just pains me to watch all these stars I used to idolize act like psychopaths. dryy

Ugh! I know, right?! This is why I love Chris. Smart, cares about the work, talented, a good person, and SANE! Even compared to several of his other Glee cast members, I think he is the best one out of the bunch. Sadly, I can picture quite a few of them going off the rails within 10 years.

There are lots of reasons that they get to be that way (sexual abuse being a major, major factor that no one likes to think about), though. I mean, as I understand it, Judy Garland got hooked on drugs because they were given to her by the studio to help her get "up" enough to shoot, then "down" enough to sleep.

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AnneNeville wrote:Being famous does NOT seem to be suiting him very well, though (in terms of personal comfort/private life). Once Glee goes away, I bet he'll turn into one of those celebrities about whom we hear little unless there is a major project coming out. My heart breaks for him when I hear stories about what happened in that Florida bar.

He seems to care about the work, not the fame. He might even withdraw into BTS work when Glee is done.

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