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Re: 4x08 "Thanksgiving" Watch & Discussion thread

Post  Ranwing on 11/30/2012, 11:19 am

This is why Chris Colfer is a Golden Globe winner and a multi-Emmy nominee.

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Post  Jellyrolls on 11/30/2012, 11:31 am

Very few actors can convey emotion the way Chris does. Amazing.

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Re: 4x08 "Thanksgiving" Watch & Discussion thread

Post  Ranwing on 11/30/2012, 11:54 am

Single best moment of the episode, hands down.

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Re: 4x08 "Thanksgiving" Watch & Discussion thread

Post  Ireth on 11/30/2012, 12:19 pm

tanita_mors wrote:This was a really good episode. I think this one and Break Up are there at the top for this season. It had it's flaws and weak moments, mostly due to that horrible Marley storyline, but the rest was fantastic.

I'm not the fan of warblers, but this was the first time in a long time that i actually liked their performances. They were fantastic on Whistle (no way is that new warbler not-bi-curious, not with that dancing by friend). They SOOOO deserve to win.

I had no idea I missed Quinn so much, but after this episode, I really do. Also she and Kitty were brilliant together and for the first time Kitty actually gave me the vibes of someone who is 16. The chemistry of the old cast is positively undeniable. I didn't even care about the Unholy Trinity scenes in the past and yet I loved them tonight.

All the Kurt stuff was perfect and finally we get to see his side of the story. I thought that it was perfectly understandably what he was feeling. The love you have for someone can't just disappear over night. And SJP advice was excellent. You can't move on until you are fully done with this chapter of your life. The phone call was great from both sides actually. DC was just the right amount emotive (maybe overdid it at the end with the crying, but then people all react differently so I'll give it a pass as an actor's choice). Kiki came out of nowhere and I couldn't tell if it was real or fantasy, but it was so much fun and you can tell that all involved had a blast. Chris was such a HBIC in that one. Swoon. coool

Also, GLORIOUS HUMMELBERRY !!!!!!! That is all. hapitgh

Ryder and Jake work best together. They have great friendship chemistry, even better then Finn and Puck did IMO, and Marley should just stay away from them both. Girlfriend has some serious issues with expectations and self image. I kept groaning at her awful voice over and just wanted to slap her face. And her mother ain't helping with all that "Don't screw this up" pressure.

Brody has a tiny bit more personality the before. Congratulations writers.

Gangnam Style should be erased from our collective memories and never mentioned again. And Finn, you are officially the worst glee club director ever. That little bit with Sue and Emma was presh.

All in all, the best episode of the after hiatus block.
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I was really happy to see the graduates back, but I think I would have preferred to see them interacting amongst themselves at the dinner because it felt out of place to have them constantly in the school, propping up the newbies. My favorite newbie scenes were the Jake and Ryder ones with no graduates around, and while Kitty and Quinn were kind of fun together, I preferred seeing Quinn with Santana.
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Re: 4x08 "Thanksgiving" Watch & Discussion thread

Post  MissSoniaPP on 11/30/2012, 1:56 pm

I saw the episode:
  • Chris and JSP: the scenes between them are too good for Glee lol!

  • "Let's Have A Kiki/Turkey Lurkey Time": a word to decrever - Fun bounce

  • Rachel/Brody: I do not feel chemistry between them. During the party there was more chemistry between Kurt and Brody Smile

  • Klaine: I liked what they did in this episode. But Darren has no talent for sad scenes. dryy

  • Marley: I'm to love her story.

  • Jake and Ryder: finally a good friendship among boys. These two are good. hapitgh

  • Marley/Jake/Ryeder: I'm like Marley/Jake/Ryder because in this story friendship is in 1st place, even between Marley and the boys
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Re: 4x08 "Thanksgiving" Watch & Discussion thread

Post  Divalicious on 11/30/2012, 3:45 pm

I worked last night, came home and watched the Kurt scenes (Kiki twice) and went to bed. I'm going to go watch it now, but my few impressions.

Kurt was perfect, he was also honest and strong. Blaine, you cheated on that? Idiot. But a sad idiot, and wonderously hopeful about Kurt being willing to have a mature conversation with him face to face.

I liked the dance arrangement and vocal distribution of Kiki, plus Kurt's poses cried out for some modeling of his own.

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I would have to watch the promo again, but I don't think Kurt sings there and then, I don't remember Lea's flowing white dress from the scene we saw being filmed where Kurt was so anxious about singing. I could be wrong, I'll rewatch. I would rather him get the big performance instead of just in front of the class.

Marley is getting the Blaine treatment, not the Rachel. At least Rachel grabbed at leads etc, I see Marley being handed them. Then when there is the possibility of ND losing, they don't give her the lead, even though indirectly with fainting and possibly disqualifying them, if they do lose, it will be more Tina or the song, than Marley being the weak link. I like the actress, but the character feels like a "been there, done that" nothing new kind of character. With bulemia.

I didn't mind Gangham style, the performance was fun, do I want to listen to it in the car, probably not, but it was fun to see more mobile people doing some real dance moves.

Still hoping that Blaine's infidelity becomes more widely known, because right now I feel he is skating down easy street. His ex is willing to talk to him, only two people know, and everyone in ND sees him suffering that even Mike knows about him texting and Kurt not responding.

Kurt's scene on the phone, on the fire escape was lovely. SJP hug was lovely, they kind of slowed it down and played the piano music over the Kiki stuff in the back.

I would find it funny if next season Rachel would be more upset about Kurt moving out for whatever reason, because he is her most important significant other, than she would about Brody doing whatever if he is still the BF.

I want Kurt's oven, because if it can cook a turkey that fast, it should be a best seller. That, or they ate at midnight, it is NY.

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Re: 4x08 "Thanksgiving" Watch & Discussion thread

Post  bayth on 11/30/2012, 3:50 pm

Numbers are in for last night:

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It looks like having Kurts' name in the promo helped the ratings. I'm glad Smile
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Re: 4x08 "Thanksgiving" Watch & Discussion thread

Post  sheny on 11/30/2012, 5:57 pm

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Re: 4x08 "Thanksgiving" Watch & Discussion thread

Post  valkeakuulas on 11/30/2012, 6:12 pm

I do love me some Kurt and Rachel and I'm hoping the slightly elevated ratings indicate that that is what everyone else wants to watch as well. In this episode, more than any of the previously NY featured ones, you can sense how different the NY side actually feels and looks like. Even though Hummelberry had only one outside scene it was hundred times better, beautiful and interesting than the old halls of McKinley. Kurt and somewhat Rachel are adults and that is what I want to see. Maybe I'm just too bored to see the young ones, recycled storylines of Lima. I did caught Marley's monologue: what a snooze fest. I know her SL is supposed to be interesting and important but that girl is stupid, and I just can't be arsed to find out if she likes Jake or Riley/Blake/Reese (WTH is his name anyway?)

For me the way they brought up the old gang was totally off and a bit sour. Maybe it's just me and I'm really zoning out when they jump to Lima who ever is planted there by RIB. And Finn shame on you for not telling what had happened between Kurt and Blaine. Finn is really turning out to be a Will 2.0 and that's bad because I have a deep hatered for Will and I'd hate to start despising Finn for tha same reasons.

Kurt is really intelligent and smart and I love how he can acknowledge advice and include it in to his own life and mind without compromising. More of this self-confident Kurt. I loved Kurt's Mr.Bumble reference, one of my favorite books and musicals. Kurt is culturally interesting in what his likes and dislikes are (dispite his obvious lack of some level of pop knowledge: Elvis! tonguue )

Klaine's conversation had me sitting at the egde of my seat: Kurt was having so many emotions running under, but all the time I kept yelling in my brain: Don't hide and suppress it inside, it will hurt you! Let it out! And I feel some of that did release with Isabella's hug. I do feel Kurt has compressed his emotions over the course of his time in high school, but I guess that is part of growing up. I would so like to hear from Chris how he depicts Kurt's emotional growing up and how he sees Kurt emotional maturing.

Well, too little of Kurt and Hummelberry but enough for me to go and skim through the Kurt scenes again. And how lovely was Kurt's long and judging look at Brody who dares to relay on a oven bag to make his turkey!

Let's have a Kiki was wonderful and I love that when Rachel burst out to Turkey Lurkey I wasn't the only one having a WTF face and saw few of them in their flat as well. This raises my hopes on getting at least equal airtime on the NY side at the future: and as far as I'm concerned RIB still owes us two NY based episodes.
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Re: 4x08 "Thanksgiving" Watch & Discussion thread

Post  CloveGlee on 11/30/2012, 7:50 pm



For me the way they brought up the old gang was totally off and a bit sour. Maybe it's just me and I'm really zoning out when they jump to Lima who ever is planted there by RIB. And Finn shame on you for not telling what had happened between Kurt and Blaine. Finn is really turning out to be a Will 2.0 and that's bad because I have a deep hatered for Will and I'd hate to start despising Finn for tha same reasons.

I'm with Finn on this one. He's a pseudo faculty member right now. It is inappropriate for him to gossip about a student he needs to lead to Sectionals, no matter how much the situation sucks or how unfair it is. The people who actually give two craps about Kurt know what actually happened. The fact that this is... practically nobody... is very sad to me, but not as surprising as you might expect.

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Re: 4x08 "Thanksgiving" Watch & Discussion thread

Post  fantastica on 11/30/2012, 8:27 pm

in case any of you wondered what is a "kiki", this is what I found:


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Re: 4x08 "Thanksgiving" Watch & Discussion thread

Post  Glorfindel on 11/30/2012, 10:09 pm

(long review, sorry)

Good episode, with a good flow from Lima to NY and vice versa. It had a nice balance between the 2 narratives, although we really need a more NY centric episode soon to flesh out that part more too. The grads are still the heart of this show, imo, although the newbies did okay this episode, except for Marley: everything involving her is just bland and awful.



“Dude, when you start crying I’m gonna kick you ass.” Kick my butt then, Puck, ‘cause I couldn’t keep it dry during ‘Homeward Bound/Home’. I miss the old grads so much, and I wasn't even invested in Mike, Mercedes, Puck and Santana in previous seasons. But they are so much better than what we're stuck with now.
The choir room suddenly doesn’t look like bingo night at an old people’s home anymore, with the real cast of Glee back. The episode could have used a lot more plot and storylines for the graduates, and the way they turn up at McKinley at random so far is terribly contrived, but the little that was written for them in this episode was quite fun. The mentoring could have worked better if it was given more screentime and meaning, but now it was just the oldies propping up the newbies again. Did Mercedes even talk?
Also: giving the oldies their newer versions to mentor, made it very clear how bland 2.0 and failing the clones are in comparison.

The Puckerman brothers bonding could have potential, if we had actually seen them getting from “I never met my bastard brother” to “I need some advice from my bro on chicks”. There’s a whole lot of space and thoughts there that needed to be filled inbetween those 2 sentiments, before I can dig the Puckermans becoming best bros now, but we will never get it on this show.
Quin is self-destructive crazy again, what else is new? Run, Dianna, run. And what was the point of the “slap heard around the world” exactly, besides it being a scene to be used in the promo to sparkle interest in the episode? Is it “to be continued”, or is it to be abandoned and forgotten next week and beyond?

It’s very obvious that the competitions are not important to the writers at all anymore, when it comes to giving it some good songs and a meaningful build up in previous episodes. Therefore(and not only because they have to have them 3 times every year on the show) they have become very repetitive and boring. Not even the celebrity judges are funny anymore.
The good dance performances of the Warblers can almost, but not quite, cover up the loss of the Beelzebubs. And why give the blazers 2 songs? One Warbler song at Sectionals is okay, and I’m all for Sebastian bringing the eye candy, but 2 songs is overstaying their welcome, especially when ND only gets 1 song, plot twist or not.
The performance of ‘Gangnam Style’ showed once again that Tina can fill the center stage position just fine, if they let her. But that song was g*dd*mn awful. This performance could have been fun in the choir room or at a Kiki, but as a competition song it’s just plain insulting. Nothing can absolve RIB for giving the green light for this and crapping on their own show.

This episode's absolute low was Marley, again. Can she just go away? I’ll accept the rest of the newbies if I must, but Marley is bringing the Lima side of Glee down to an unwatchable level. What an utterly weak and bland character.
The Ryder/Jake friendship is slowly growing on me. But why can the guys be friends on this show and get past disagreements, but never the girls? Bros help each other and fist bump, while girls scheme and slap each other: that’s Glee in a nutshell. One of the few friendly scenes between girls of last year, Quinn giving Rachel the train tickets, was remembered wrong by the writers in this episode: that says it all, I guess.


Oh, Hummelberry, you look adorable and sexy together. Get drunk and make out already. Tumblr will explode if you do, and the ratings will fly through the roof if they promote the hell out of it. It’s a win/win situation on all fronts, imo.
Rachel is right not to want to be taught by a TA in a prestigeous school like NYADA, especially not by a TA who’s abs are more impressive than his acting, singing and dancing skills. But maybe those abs are why Rachel was back in Brody’s arms again so quickly.
Brody is still as exciting as a potato, and talking about food: sensual touching hands while buttering up a dead, cold turkey is so not romantic. Brrrrrr. Kurt’s right: I wouldn’t eat that manhandled bird anymore either.
But it's good to see Rachel and Kurt having fun for a change. Let’s Have a Kiki’ was marvelous! Absolutely cheesy, but I loved the phone call lead in of SJP. I wondered about the ‘Turkey Lurkey Time’ being thrown into the mix, but it’s so like Rachel to step into the game and fun with a song like that! Her dads would be proud.
Brody had the GPOY in this whole funny mess of a party. And Kurt looked and sounded so hot in the Kiki frenzie: why aren’t half of New York’s available young men (and women) all over him?

And wow, Kurt is not letting Blaine off the hook for cheating easily. *cheering*
Although finally showing Kurt's POV in the Klaine mess was too little too late, the phone call was good and to the point. I liked that Kurt only took half of Isabelle’s advice. Yes, he called Blaine to get some closure, but he couldn’t forgive Blaine yet, as Isabelle suggested, and that’s alright. He did what he felt he had to do, for himself, and not because he felt obligated to Blaine. Klaine doesn’t need 3+ endless break-up scenes when they have Chris Colfer acting the way he does, showing us all Kurt's emotions in just one little scene.
This scene would have been perfect, if the whole ‘ice-skating at Christmas’ promise hadn’t, imo, felt very tacked on, simply to probably shoe-horn another cute Klaine Christmas duet in to sell on iTunes.
I absolutely love Kurt and Isabelle’s friendship. I’m glad Kurt has a maternal confidante in her and I wish SJP would have committed herself to Glee for the whole season.

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Post  fantastica on 11/30/2012, 10:20 pm

i didnt listen to any music previews. was it the "homeward bound" in the beginning of hte episode? when I turned on the tv it was Marley's monologue. so I missed the first few minutes of the show.

i can't stand Ganam style. I hated the song when I first heard it. i just don't understand why it was so popular. it was neither a good song nor a great music video. there are much better songs, much better singing, much better choreography, and much better music video filming out there. i couldn't even finish this song the first time I saw it on YouTube. maybe I am too old.

I don't consider that kiki song is a "song", but it was fun and glad to see kurt happy.

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Post  Ranwing on 11/30/2012, 10:31 pm

The problem as far as competitions go is what else can they have ND do? The team already has a Nationals title. The show, in my opinion, made a big mistake on how it carried out the ND journey because they wanted the seniors to graduate with the ultimate title. It was a very steady, even progression that is pretty outlandish by any standards. Season one they make it through sectionals only to lose at Regionals. Season two they make it all the way to Nationals, but don't make it to the final level of competition. Season 3 they win Nationals. So... now what?

Having ND actually lose and not have a trap door (like a rule that allows the Nationals champions to progress to the next level despite a poor performance) would be an honest and interesting to see the group have to figure out to regroup and find another avenue for performances if competitions aren't an avenue. It would totally suck for the seniors (Tina, Artie, Blaine, Brittany), but it would at least be something different. But I have no doubt that the show will find some way of getting ND back into the game so they can defeat the Warblers (who rightfully deserve to win based just on performances, although inappropriate song was inappropriate).

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Post  ColferInspired on 11/30/2012, 11:32 pm

I loved this episode, except for Marley's story. I didn't even feel emotional when she fainted, I felt nothing as I have seen better Bulimia stories from other shows in the past, with betters actresses acting them, that made me feel something. Marley I have not interest in.

It was Kurt once again that nearly had me in tears. Chris you have done it to me again, you nearly had me crying. Though it was that scene in Duets with Rachel before they did that wonderful Happy Days/Get Happy, I was sobbing and Grilled Cheesus. No actor has ever had that affect on me.

Brody needs a lot more to make him an actual character, but Dean does have loads of chemistry with Chris, more than Dean has with Lea.

I like Brody in this episode, and love the way he interacts with Kurt. I want more Brody and Kurt friendship.

He treats Kurt better than the guys at McKinley did.

Brody has things in common with Kurt, so he is better than Sam. He has a skin care regime. Now I want to see Kurt and Brody having facials and having a boy's night in.

For the first time ever I didn't care about ND, I want The Warblers to win. I liked them better than ND.

The old cast, oh, how I missed them. But I liked what we got, but I wished they'd left out the newbies more.

I am so happy the ratings went up. I hope they go up even further next week.

Let's have a Kiki/Turkey Lurkey was amazing. Kurt was incredible and so was Rachel.

This was one of the highlights of the show, including all the Kurt scenes.

This performance was so much fun to watch. This is definitely the episode I will be re-watching.
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Post  ColferInspired on 12/1/2012, 12:50 am

Wow, the reviewers are changing their tune.

A lot of them aren't interested in the newbies anymore.

The one from Digital Spy said Marley's collapse was underwhelming, but praises Kurt and Isabelle as an arresting sequence. I am seeing a lot of reviews like that.

Melissa certainly cannot beat Chris at emotional scenes.

These reviewers were full of praise last week for Dynamic Duets and saying the show didn't need Kurt and Rachel. Well, they are changing their tune now.

The old cast definitely outdid the newbies.
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Post  brisallie on 12/1/2012, 12:54 am

Overall the episode was good and fast. Probably because they were lots of characters and storyline.

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Still thinking that's unrealistic to bring the old gang only to help the newbies to perform at Sectionals, I can understand that's Thanksgiving and is the opportunity to see their families too, but aren't them busy with their life? Umm probably Puck is the one who has less things to do lol. But by other side, I miss them and I don't care if sometimes they come to Lima and say "Hi" wub

Quinn is just as crazy as she were last season, for a second I believed she was gonna be totally sane but she's isn't. And I'm wondering if they're gonna develope her romance with the 35 years old man, or it was only done on purpose to the discussion between her and Santana, where they brought up lots of things from the past like Santana's jealousy towards Quinn,which probably was truth in season one. Anyway the slapping was funny though lol.

In regards of the newbies, though I try to understand what's can be the connection between her eating disorder, which it seems get worse everyweek and her lack of confidence, still I think that Marley is a bland character for me and I'm not sure if is a good comparison, but she's like Bella from Twilight, who's the damsel in danger and usually is helped by her boys. And talking about Marley's boys, slowly I'm starting to like the friendship between Jake and Ryder, I think it was cute when Jake told him to relax and enjoy the music, just feel it.

New York

I have to be honest, seriously I'm not sure what're they doing with this storyline. I feel like they're not investing so much to develop Hummelberry's life in the big apple. Though both Lea and Chris are amazing actors and they can carry on a storyline by themselves, I'd like to see more people interacting with them. Besides of Brody, and Cassie and Isabelle as regular guests. Yeah still I want either Santana or Finn (though I'm upset with him because he haven't spoken to his brother ¬¬) or What about Quinn and her train ticket?.

Anyway, what I liked from this episode was LETS HAVE A KIKI/TURKEY LURKEY TIME, that song has been on repeat all day in my head!!! The performance was so weird and unexpected that I simply love it wub and Kurt was so hot. His low voice! and I noticed that Brody had better chemistry with Kurt than Rachel- even some people on tumblr are ship them -. And is there some way to keep Isabelle the whole season? She's the person that Kurt needs in his life at this moment, and I love how she just hugged him after the phone call, because that was all Kurt needed at that moment.

...And talking about the phone call, I've to say that it was well written, even a drop fell on my face , mostly because of Chris's acting, though Darren didn't so bad, well maybe because he had less lines. But as I said before it was well written, but I didn't expect that it was gonna be Kurt's idea to do ice-skating and don't like that so much, but lets think is gonna be a entertaining time between FRIENDS, just that.

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Post  fantastica on 12/1/2012, 1:17 am

i thought DC did fine last night.

I hope blaine goes to warbly school now that it's likely the winner of hte sectionals.

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Post  sheny on 12/1/2012, 3:33 am

ColferInspired wrote:I loved this episode, except for Marley's story. I didn't even feel emotional when she fainted, I felt nothing as I have seen better Bulimia stories from other shows in the past, with betters actresses acting them, that made me feel something. Marley I have not interest in.

It was Kurt once again that nearly had me in tears. Chris you have done it to me again, you nearly had me crying. Though it was that scene in Duets with Rachel before they did that wonderful Happy Days/Get Happy, I was sobbing and Grilled Cheesus. No actor has ever had that affect on me.

Brody needs a lot more to make him an actual character, but Dean does have loads of chemistry with Chris, more than Dean has with Lea.

I like Brody in this episode, and love the way he interacts with Kurt. I want more Brody and Kurt friendship.

He treats Kurt better than the guys at McKinley did.

Brody has things in common with Kurt, so he is better than Sam. He has a skin care regime. Now I want to see Kurt and Brody having facials and having a boy's night in.

For the first time ever I didn't care about ND, I want The Warblers to win. I liked them better than ND.

The old cast, oh, how I missed them. But I liked what we got, but I wished they'd left out the newbies more.

I am so happy the ratings went up. I hope they go up even further next week.

Let's have a Kiki/Turkey Lurkey was amazing. Kurt was incredible and so was Rachel.

This was one of the highlights of the show, including all the Kurt scenes.

This performance was so much fun to watch. This is definitely the episode I will be re-watching.

I want more Kurt/Brody too.



There was another gif of Kurt holding Brody's hand during "Let's have a Kiki". But i can't find it now. People commented that Brody was actually the first straight guy who held Kurt's hand and had no problem with it. But I think I remember Puck holding his hand during booty camp last year. It doesn't matter it was sweet.
Dean definitely has more chemistry with Chris than he has with Lea.
I want Kurt and Brody to become good friends. They have a lot in common. But I won't hope too much. It probably won't happen. Blaine is the only one allowed to have straight male friends, also known as bros.


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Re: 4x08 "Thanksgiving" Watch & Discussion thread

Post  arina on 12/1/2012, 3:38 am

I am not shipping it or anything but I also thought Brody had more chemistry with Kurt than Rachel (and the sad thing is I think Kurt has better chemistry with almost every guy than his ex boyfriend). I am not big fan of Brody, he is there just to say nice things about Rachel most of the time, but it really was nice to see some guy treating Kurt totally normal (and from the start) and not like the guys in McKinley...
And Kurt definitely made Brochel scenes more fun :-)
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Post  fantastica on 12/1/2012, 3:55 am

brody attends NYADA which means he is literally swimming in a sea of gay guys. didn't he say in episode 1 that he had to declare himself straight or something to rachel? anyway, i am sure he has no trouble hanging out w/ gays.

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Post  Glorfindel on 12/1/2012, 4:38 pm

It's kind if funny that so much emphasis is put on the Blam (Blaine and Sam) gay/straight friendship, when Kurt and Brody just are becoming friends and it's no big deal. neutre


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Post  indiaskye on 12/1/2012, 5:22 pm

Soooo ... my thoughts about "Thanksgiving" ... Let my start by saying that I really enjoyed this episode! Definitely one of my favorites this season so far. It was soooo good to see the old cast together again – I never knew how much I missed some of them until I saw them all together again ... fanny2

As far as songs go, my favorite is definitely “Homeward Bound/Home” (playing that on repeat right now). With “Let’s have a Kiki” I’m not a big fan of the song (it’s a little too weird for my taste) but the scene itself was certainly as cracky and fun as I thought it would be. And I don’t even want to talk about “Gangnam Style” – that was hands down the worst song Glee has ever done!

Loved the Hummelberry and Kurt/Isabelle stuff in this episode, and I agree with those who say they'd like to see Kurt/Brody friendship - their scenes together are really good, and it would be nice for Kurt to have a straight male friend in New York! Brody seems absolutely comfortable around Kurt so I hope they'll further develop that (though I don't really expect them to - this is Glee, after all).

The Klaine phone call ... This scene was probably the first time since TBU that Blaine has elicited any emotional reaction in me that wasn't anger. I actually felt for (or with?) him here - his relief at (and happiness over) having Kurt talk to him again was palpable – and even though I'm not ready to forgive him yet this scene has finally managed to make me a little more sympathetic towards him, and has given me hope that maybe Blaine and I will be okay again eventually … fanny2

But then again - this scene showed something that his scenes in TRYWBTP and Dynamic Duets could not successfully convey (for me at least) - pure and true emotion. It was the first time (excluding the Teenage Dream performance in TBU) that I really felt - and believed - how sorry he was and how much he still loves Kurt. I think what bothered me most about Blaine in 4x05 and 4x07 was that I didn’t feel any real emotion coming from him - no real depth to it (well, except for the flashback). Especially in 4x05 I felt that he was feeling sorry for himself rather than sorry about what he did. This scene, though, was raw and open and honest, and like I said - for me that was the first time (other than Teenage Dream) that I could actually see - and, more importantly, feel - all of Blaine's emotions … the first time that his pain actually touched me, and the first time since TBU that I actually felt a connection to him. I think acting-wise Darren did really well here, not over-acting but putting in enough emotion to make it feel real and believable (and that’s a thin line to walk so kudos to him).

Kurt was really strong in this scene - or maybe I should rather say Chris. Thank god for him and his ability to convey so much with what little he's given to work with or else Kurt's side in this would be almost non-existent. You can see that Kurt is conflicted, and I am glad for knowing that
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he and Blaine will only be friends for the foreseeable future. It would just be way too soon for anything else. Kurt still needs a lot of time to fully heal, and Blaine has to work on regaining Kurt’s trust. They need to rebuild their friendship first, and anything else that might come out of that needs to be built from scratch over time.

There were a lot of emotions playing out on Kurt’s face (and in his voice) – hurt, resignation, want, hesitation, hope, uncertainty, grief over what he lost and might never have again. Kurt is no longer the silly romantic that he once was. The hug with Isabelle at the end of this scene (and Kurt’s face after the call and before/during the hug) showed just how broken he still is, and how much he's still hurting. It was also one of my favorite parts of this episode and made me love Isabelle even more. This call was a hard thing for Kurt to do, and it showed, but it also looked like he felt better afterwards and that’s the most important thing.

This phone call was no doubt a very powerful scene and one that moved me more than I thought it would but at the same time not enough to just make me throw all my concerns overboard. This might have been the first step in reconciling me and Blaine (or Klaine) again, so to speak, but like Kurt I'm definitely not there yet - and the road may yet be bumpy. In order for me to accept Klaine as a couple again I will need to see Blaine really show Kurt that he can trust him again, and prove to him (and me, too) that he really deserves that second chance.

I still wish we’d gotten another Kurt scene after the one with Isabelle – one with him talking about what Isabelle said with Rachel (or, Brody – anyone, really) and letting us know what exactly was going on in his mind. Within the space of one episode (an episode he wasn't even in!) Kurt has gone from "I don't trust you anymore" to "You're sorry and I believe you","Let's go ice-skating at Christmas" and "I love you" - and all that with no real explanation at all! Nothing much to show us how he got from point A to point B. Sure, there was that short scene with Isabelle where they talked about Blaine but that only explains why he called Blaine to get some kind of closure – but not why his whole demeanor towards Blaine would be so very different from what we saw in “Glease”, right to the point where he invites him to go ice-skating at christmas. It just felt to me like a link is missing between these scenes.

I don't really have anything to say about the newbies since I didn't pay very much attention to their scenes ...

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Re: 4x08 "Thanksgiving" Watch & Discussion thread

Post  ColferGirl on 12/1/2012, 7:13 pm

^ I'm really glad you joined the CCFF Vanessa. I love reading your posts. neutre I agree with everything you said, especially how amazingly talented Chris is, conveying so many complex emotions in that one phone call. It's like he was trying to make up for the episodes where Kurt's POV on the breakup was completely ignored, and tried to put as many of the emotions Kurt was feeling as he could into that one scene. It expressed Kurt's hurt and agony over the situation better than anything else so far (in fact, though Kurt said he was mad at Blaine in the dialogue, because of Chris's acting I mainly saw and felt his hurt and grief and yearning...).

And I agree with you about Blaine too. Blaine's still gotta work at rebuilding Kurt's love and trust in him again, and prove he deserves a second chance, before I'll ever be okay with Kurt and him becoming a couple again.
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Though now that all the spoilers about notPaul are pointing to him being more and more important, with the care they're taking in his casting and how he gets a solo even before Brody does, I am starting to question Klaine's endgame status. But we'll see.
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Post  fantastica on 12/1/2012, 8:08 pm

it looks like they are giving klainers a silverlining that the couple are on the way to reconciliation. i am sure rm loves to play this kind of game to manipulate fans' emotions.

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