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Post  fantastica on 4/30/2012, 5:26 pm

^ what happened? I have used f words here several times I don't think it ever got censored. Mods here certainly don't do much except being nice and helpful and keeping GleeAddict away. Smile

I agree w/ a lot of what you said. I understand the theme of hte episode is "letting go" so Wemma drama is to show will's unwillingness to "let go". but the plot seems so weird and ridiculous I really don't get his love of his students could affect his wedding - if they keep it as planned around next xmas, lots of not all the students will come back for the holiday, and wouldn't it even be better when they can all talk about their new experience out of Lima? Same thing w/ Rachel and santana firendship that's total fan service. I don't buy it. Didn't pay attention to dreadlock scenes. His hair distracted me in a bad way, and I spaced out during the rest of his sl.

Agree w/ you completely on klaine and burt scenes. I have to go right now but I am glad you guys from Twop are here talking w/ us. I always wonder when we can all be a same room discussion the show and here we are! sometimes dreams do come true. Smile

and yeah, our dream of having a cute guy pursuing kurt has also come true somewhat.... be careful next time what you wish for. I think TPTB does have the mentality that blaine is the more acceptable gay and he should be the male star of the show, so no matter how many meta you put in to literally give us a middle finger, they will always show the 2 in a manner that will feel offensive to us kurtsies. we will just have to either live with it, or abandon the ship altogether, or continue to bitch about it like we are doing.
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Post  Heyerchick on 4/30/2012, 5:40 pm

Following Georgette's example, my thoughts on Dance With Somebody. I think I'm a bit more of a Klainer than other members here. Hee.

Hallelujah! The writers let Kurt Hummel down off that suffering cross of emotional pain porn! They let him have some fun. And screw up! Better that Kurt and Blaine make mistakes and grow as people, and grow in their relationship, than just being cutesy and adorably perfect in narrative neglect.

Ross Maxwell may not be the most technically proficient writer, but he really does understand who both Kurt and Blaine are, and the frustrating quirks of their respective natures that can make things very easy for them - or very difficult, as we saw here. Blaine seems all surface energy and performance, but Kurt is as deep as the ocean. He zigs when he's expected to zag. Blaine loves that about him. But Blaine can also be hurt by that about him. Kurt zigged instead of zagging here too, but it wasn't in a good way. Both of them internalise and obfuscate, but where Blaine is all explosive anger and venting, Kurt is coldness and pragmatism.

Neither was wholly in the right, or wholly in the wrong. Both of them screwed up in different ways. Neither of them pulled punches in their fight. Scores are being kept. Both of them were very true to themselves and their differences. I saw both their points of view and sympathised with both of them in this. As with other issues in the past, not a deal breaker, and as with other issues in the past, one they've walked away from with a better understanding of one another and what they need to put into the relationship to make it work. The fundamentals worked very well for me.

I think they introduced Chandler so Kurt could screw up too, and in a very obvious way. Otherwise it would have been piling on Blaine for pulling away, even piling on Burt for pulling away from the innocent Kurt. Again: I'm glad the writers let Kurt down off that cross for once.

Kurt has coping mechanisms that Burt and Blaine don't. He can cope with isolation, even from the people he loves the most, because that was his entire life until he joined Glee club, and until he was able to be honest about his sexuality with his Dad. Kurt's defences are too well developed. He might have been Burt's "sweet little boy" but he's never been anyone's golden boy. He's used to being on the outside looking in, to being alone, to having nothing he doesn't make for himself, to losing. So, he feels deeply, but he can also cope with losing and with loss. He can go on. Guard the hell out of his feelings and go on. In his mind, these relationships will continue. Kurt doesn't get Burt and Blaine's reservations because there's no question in his mind about their future. He's sure and certain. And he alone among the three of them has the coping mechanism to deal with separation. He's not worrying about pulling away; he's already laid his plans on how to keep in touch, how to keep them included in his life. He's moving forward *with them.*

Meanwhile, they're pulling away from him. They're actively creating distance with Kurt and neither of them have been talking about why. So all Kurt has to go on are their actions. Both of them actively avoiding spending time with him. Kurt on a good day is reserved and he's the master at coping alone. So he was coping with that distance here. Alone. Not ragging on them for it, but not happy either. Also he's focused on his future, which for him includes his Dad and Blaine. He's certain of them so it took some straight talking from both Burt and Blaine for him to realise they're not certain of him. He doesn't get why. He just doesn't get it. Literally. Until they tell him.

The writing was a little clunky, but I thought the disconnect between where Kurt is and where Burt and Blaine are was quite clear. It's not a failure of feeling, but of communication. Burt and Blaine have questions; Kurt has formulated answers. Answers which are so self-evident to him that, yes, he doesn't understand those questions until they're explicitly put to him.

I like that the writer took on a couple of Kurt's most frustrating traits. His self-righteousness for one: he had no sexual or romantic interest in Chandler, therefore he was not cheating. Period. When Blaine tried to get him to see his pov, Kurt did what he always does: he deflected. Conversational ninja. We've seen him do that with Burt, who knows that if he forces the issue, Kurt will crack and be honest with him. But Blaine walked away and did his ragey, over-reacting song in front of everyone. That in turn hardened Kurt's stance. Burt actually clued him in on what the distancing was about in his case, Kurt softened and sang his apology song, expressing his regret and feelings for Blaine. Blaine softened, he resisted but was ultimately moved, but he obviously kept his distance and his anger. Which seems to be his MO in these matters. It was in keeping for Kurt to take action to resolve the impasse, and to try to reopen the lines of communication, as he did after The First Time. Only this time he called on a third party to mediate. And, under it all, was the bigger issue of their impending separation. There was just this huge gulf between them in how they were thinking of that and reacting to that.

Kurt has a, shall we say traditionally or stereotypically masculine approach to some things. Getting him to admit he even *has* feelings can be a battle, let alone sharing what those feelings are. I love the obstinate, complicated little shit. One thing is for sure. Kurt learns. He rarely, if ever, repeats the same mistake. He'll go all out to include Blaine, now he knows what Blaine needs and wants from him. And I think Blaine will handle their next fight a little better, at least in respect to Kurt-wrangling. He loves the obstinate, complicated shit too.

Can I just say though that as well as being in character, both Kurt and Blaine were such BOYS about the whole thing. Like EMOTION was a language completely alien to them. And painfully young. It made for a very refreshing change.

Just one thing about Kurt's sentiments for Blaine. He might have better coping mechanisms, and he might have had his turn to screw up, but his feelings run as deep as Blaine's do. He might have slapped a pink post-it on that picture of him and Blaine dancing at prom and told his Dad they were on the rocks, but he also had a fresh pink carnation in its boutonniere in front of that very same picture. He's kept that memory, that gesture of Blaine dancing with him, alive for a year. Literally alive, in the form of the flower

Finally, we had a shit-load of meta shout outs about Klaine. The alpha gay stuff, Kurt having to sit and watch Blaine perform instead of singing himself, Blaine changing his whole life for Kurt, Sebastian, etc. All very true, but. Glee, the only thing more annoying to fans than ignoring your plot holes is hanging a lantern on them in a subsequent episode without any intention to actually *deal* with the criticism. The neutering of the relationship especially. We didn't need the lesbian death bed label smacked on an issue that is nothing to do with the characters and everything to do with the writers, studio, network. Ditto for Blaine's worries about being separated from Kurt, left alone at McKinley. Totally unfricking necessary, if the writers hadn't lopped a couple of years off of Blaine's age and dropped him down to the junior grade.

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Post  fantastica on 4/30/2012, 6:07 pm

I wish after blaine mentioned about moving from dalton for kurt, kurt would say "then go back to dalton!". i really wish blaine can go back to dalton next year, or be in dalton spin off (so he will never be shown w/ kurt again). let's see if this little dream of mine can come true... Twisted Evil
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Post  paulopf on 4/30/2012, 6:11 pm

Heyerchick wrote: It was in keeping for Kurt to take action to resolve the impasse, and to try to reopen the lines of communication, as he did after The First Time.

I have a serious problem with this. With Kurt constantly being the one to make the first movement, even when the other party (Blaine) has been the one in the wrong.

I also don't like that only Kurt seems to be the one expected to learn what Blaine wants and what Blaine needs and go with it. Blaine should do the same and if he's not mature enough, if it's Kurt always making all the effort, to help their relationship move forward, then for the sake of them both, they should break up.
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Post  valkeakuulas on 4/30/2012, 6:13 pm

fantastica wrote:I wish after blaine mentioned about moving from dalton for kurt, kurt would say "then go back to dalton!". i really wish blaine can go back to dalton next year, or be in dalton spin off (so he will never be shown w/ kurt again). let's see if this little dream of mine can come true... Twisted Evil

Exactly! But there's too much of us who want to break them up in that sentence. Razz

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Post  mellama on 4/30/2012, 6:20 pm

Such great commentary! I'd like to say a belated welcome to both Georgette888 and Heyerchick! I love your discussions and hope you will continue to post here.
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Post  Shinra17 on 4/30/2012, 6:28 pm

fantastica wrote:I wish after blaine mentioned about moving from dalton for kurt, kurt would say "then go back to dalton!". i really wish blaine can go back to dalton next year, or be in dalton spin off (so he will never be shown w/ kurt again). let's see if this little dream of mine can come true... Twisted Evil
The little dream of mine is already dead: I wish Kurt would have said "no, darling, you didn't transfer for me, you transfered for that microphone you can't stop hogging and please don't pretend you will be sad about my leaving for nyada, it will just give you more opportunities to be alone with it" dryy

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Post  fantastica on 4/30/2012, 7:01 pm

^ kurt is not allowed to defend himself. htat's the impression I got. yes I want him to say that too because at least we hae continuity from 3.01 but alas we have to give the time to blaine's full song next. dryy
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Post  Heyerchick on 4/30/2012, 7:18 pm

Thanks for the welcome, mellama Smile Usually the problem is shutting me up!

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Post  brisallie on 4/30/2012, 7:21 pm

" Then go back to Dalton" Razz I felt so annoyed when Blaine said to Kurt that he transfered school because of him, I mean was he forced to do that- I know Kurt was passive/agressive when he made that comment- but boy is your decision at the end. Besides I thought Blaine's dad have problems with his son being gay so how did he transfer? huh


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Post  Jellyrolls on 4/30/2012, 7:27 pm

Georgette888 wrote:I suddenly thought I remembered something about not using 'vulgarisms' in the board T&Cs when I registered and so was a good girl and went back to put *s in. Hee.

We don't block the cuss words. The only things we don't really allowed here are Chris bashing, bashing your fellow posters, and posting pornographic materials.

ETA: Just as a funny anecdote, another message board I participate on is set up so that if you type a questionable word in, it automatically changes it to something else. One of the words that was changed was the word "cock" which got changed to chicken. One of our posters went to Boston, and took pictures of a John Hancock statue, and the system changed it to John Hanchicken.


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Post  fantastica on 4/30/2012, 7:29 pm

Heyerchick wrote:Thanks for the welcome, mellama Smile Usually the problem is shutting me up!
your avatar is rather intimidating I doubt anybody dared to shut you up (for fear of being kicked in the rear). Razz
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Post  Heyerchick on 4/30/2012, 7:34 pm

My very favourite of all Kurt's gorgeous boots Smile

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Post  fantastica on 4/30/2012, 7:35 pm

Jellyrolls wrote:
Georgette888 wrote:I suddenly thought I remembered something about not using 'vulgarisms' in the board T&Cs when I registered and so was a good girl and went back to put *s in. Hee.

We don't block the cuss words. The only things we don't really allowed here are Chris bashing, bashing your fellow posters, and posting pornographic materials.

hmm, humhum I remmeber distinctively that I got hit in the head beam repeatedly by several posters including Shinra. are you going to do something about it?

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p.s. when will I get my 6th star? I will quit posting if I will never get there... :angry:
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Post  sahhar on 4/30/2012, 7:43 pm

fantastica wrote:I wish after blaine mentioned about moving from dalton for kurt, kurt would say "then go back to dalton!". i really wish blaine can go back to dalton next year, or be in dalton spin off (so he will never be shown w/ kurt again). let's see if this little dream of mine can come true... Twisted Evil

OMG, I was thinking the same thing!. Preach!.

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Post  Jellyrolls on 4/30/2012, 7:53 pm

fantastica wrote:
Jellyrolls wrote:
Georgette888 wrote:I suddenly thought I remembered something about not using 'vulgarisms' in the board T&Cs when I registered and so was a good girl and went back to put *s in. Hee.

We don't block the cuss words. The only things we don't really allowed here are Chris bashing, bashing your fellow posters, and posting pornographic materials.

hmm, humhum I remmeber distinctively that I got hit in the head beam repeatedly by several posters including Shinra. are you going to do something about it?

moque

p.s. when will I get my 6th star? I will quit posting if I will never get there... :angry:

Shinra is allowed to hit you over the head any time he wants, Kim.

And you'll just have to keep haveing diarrhea of the fingers to reach that sixth star.

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Post  fantastica on 4/30/2012, 8:07 pm

^ not even tryin'. I bet you don't even have a good name for the 6th or 7th stars yet.
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Post  ColferGirl on 4/30/2012, 8:09 pm

Welcome to the forum, Heyerchick and Georgette! Fantastic posts, both of you. neutre

That's why I love this forum - I love hearing everyone's opinions on the new episodes, and everyone here is very thoughtful and articulate and detailed with their impressions/opinions/feelings. We don't always agree or have the same opinion - there's some clashing - but everyone here is very respectful and always willing to listen. I love hearing everyone's take, whether it's similar or even if it's vastly different from my own.

Now, to comment on your comments! Smile Even though I should seriously be studying for my math final tomorrow Glee has turned me into a procrastinator.

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Kurt, Burt and Blaine- No problem with Kurt being wrong. He was wrong to be flirting by text in secret. I liked the fact that they allowed him to be human again and make mistakes. I liked the fact he was defensive and obstinate and so on. And I loved the way Chris plays Kurt. I loved the fact that he shows how emotionally resilient and tough Kurt can be. He is able to be independent and 'cope' with pain in a very traditionally masculine way whilst being very emotionally honest and open in other ways. Beautifully nuanced.

I agree with all of this, but especially @the bolded - that's something I really love about Kurt as well. He's so emotionally guarded, holds his heart very close to him and hides his feelings behind walls, particularly when he's hurt. This was especially true in season 1, although I think he's gradually thawed, and though still reserved he seems so much less guarded now in season 3. But even still, Kurt manages to be so emotionally open as well; the way he deals with his emotions is almost an inherent contradiction of his character but it's not, it's just him and who he is. He copes with his pain and shuts down, shuts people out, but when he's happy it blooms from his smile and he'll bounce he so's excited, when he's sweet he's sugary sweet. Many times he's been openly moved to tears, or choked on them with compassion or sadness. Often at times it seems you can read Kurt's emotions like an open book on his face, and then just as quickly it shuts off behind an icy wall and you can't tell at all.

Basically that was a long-winded way of saying I agree with you and I love that about him too. Smile

And, especially, don't let him bring that up and then have it brushed under the carpet with an office scene which was all about Blaine's problems and Kurt's failings.

I hated this too, and every time I think of it I get irritated to no end. So I really should just stop. But I hated how uneven, unequal that scene was. And I get that this is a show, it's not real life (since in real life it would have been equal), and for narrative and time purposes they couldn't have Kurt share his grievances as well. But it still bothers me really, really bad. I hate that Kurt didin't get to have a say, that it couldn't have been about his problems with Blaine's failings just as it was about Blaine's problems with his. The way it's set up, it suggests Blaine is faultless and Kurt is problematic. That may not be what the show/writers are saying but if you isolated that scene as representative of their relationship, it felt that way to me....

I really, really want them to break up now. YMMV. I don't ride roughshod over the alternative perceptions of them as a cute, sweet couple. I'm glad others can see that and enjoy them. It sure makes Glee easier. For me though, there are issues there that *never* have and *never* will be resolved. Also, Blaine is unrecognisable from S2. Where is the mature, confident boy in this insecure, needy characterisatioon they seem to be pushing now? Nowhere to be seen and, frankly, I find his neediness yet coupled with a still 'golden boy' persona annoying as anything. Sigh... I never will see Kurt Hummel on the loose in the NYC dating field and that makes me want to cry.

100% agreed, and we can share my tissue box as we cry together over the loss of the bolded. :(

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Ross Maxwell may not be the most technically proficient writer, but he really does understand who both Kurt and Blaine are, and the frustrating quirks of their respective natures that can make things very easy for them - or very difficult, as we saw here. Blaine seems all surface energy and performance, but Kurt is as deep as the ocean. He zigs when he's expected to zag. Blaine loves that about him. But Blaine can also be hurt by that about him. Kurt zigged instead of zagging here too, but it wasn't in a good way. Both of them internalise and obfuscate, but where Blaine is all explosive anger and venting, Kurt is coldness and pragmatism.

Neither was wholly in the right, or wholly in the wrong. Both of them screwed up in different ways. Neither of them pulled punches in their fight. Scores are being kept. Both of them were very true to themselves and their differences. I saw both their points of view and sympathised with both of them in this. As with other issues in the past, not a deal breaker, and as with other issues in the past, one they've walked away from with a better understanding of one another and what they need to put into the relationship to make it work. The fundamentals worked very well for me.

Though parts of it bothered me, I do agree with you about the storyline and how fundamentally it was really great and utilized their characters well. Blaine's response to conflict and hurting, the anger and venting, has at least been consistent so I can see that in his character here, and of course Kurt's reactions to conflict too. I especially agree that I loved that both of them were in ways right and wrong, and screwed up in different ways.

I can't find how to say more about what you wrote in your post, because I'm kinda just floored by how deeply you assessed everything through your thoughts on Kurt and Blaine's characterizations, Kurt especially, and how that influenced this storyline. I didn't agree with it all but I could see where you were coming from and very much enjoyed your perspective, particularly about Kurt's coping mechanisms and how being so used to isolation, being able to guard his feelings and cope so well, was at the heart of his misunderstandings in the episode. Definitely gives me something to think about. neutre


Just one thing about Kurt's sentiments for Blaine. He might have better coping mechanisms, and he might have had his turn to screw up, but his feelings run as deep as Blaine's do. He might have slapped a pink post-it on that picture of him and Blaine dancing at prom and told his Dad they were on the rocks, but he also had a fresh pink carnation in its boutonniere in front of that very same picture. He's kept that memory, that gesture of Blaine dancing with him, alive for a year. Literally alive, in the form of the flower

Aaaaaand observations like this are why I love hearing Klainer opinions even though I myself am not one. I would have never caught this otherwise, blind in my grumblings, but it's very important to/for/about Kurt, so thank you for bringing this up. neutre

Kurt really is such a romantic. I think it's very sweet that he keeps a live carnation there even after all this time, and that it's a memory and a gesture he still holds so dear to him. wub

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I have a serious problem with this. With Kurt constantly being the one to make the first movement, even when the other party (Blaine) has been the one in the wrong.

I also don't like that only Kurt seems to be the one expected to learn what Blaine wants and what Blaine needs and go with it. Blaine should do the same and if he's not mature enough, if it's Kurt always making all the effort, to help their relationship move forward, then for the sake of them both, they should break up.

As I said farther above, I dislike this too, so I agree with you Paulo. I'd like to see Blaine be the one to make the first move toward a reconciliation in the future, and for Kurt to be able to express a grievance wih Blaine and be given a promise to try and change, just as Kurt has done for him. That way it's a relationship of equals, of give and take, instead of one sided.
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Post  Glorfindel on 4/30/2012, 10:26 pm

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Kurt, Burt and Blaine- Hmm, I liked parts of it. I thought the general plot was ok. No problem with Kurt being wrong. He was wrong to be flirting by text in secret. I liked the fact that they allowed him to be human again and make mistakes. I liked the fact he was defensive and obstinate and so on. And I loved the way Chris plays Kurt. I loved the fact that he shows how emotionally resilient and tough Kurt can be. He is able to be independent and 'cope' with pain in a very traditionally masculine way whilst being very emotionally honest and open in other ways. Beautifully nuanced. I thought Darren had one of his better scenes in the bedroom. He was hurting and one could see that. I felt bad for him. The Emma's office was less successful for me. The 'pained' voice didn't come across right to me and sounded whiney and forced. Generally the plot hung together.

However, I had some major problems with it. Firstly, the Kurt and Burt scene was so moving and *true*. It felt so emotionally honest and the connection between the two actors seemed so *right*. This has always been the case and, for me, their relationship is the best one on Glee. Therefore, when it segued into "Share my life and all that I am / For I'll never change my colours for you" it fitted their relationship so well that I had tears in my eyes and then... it was for Blaine- a relationship, IMO, that hasn't matched up or even reached the outskirts of the wonderful emotional resonance of the father / son bond Glee has shown with Burt and Kurt. When Kurt sings that his walls have been broken down by Blaine or that Blaine sees through to the heart of him and that he has nothing without Blaine, I don't *believe* him. I am not saying they don't love each other or that Blaine is not important to him or that Blaine is not a sweet boy generally. But it is being *said* to be a 'love for the ages' and all I see is puppy love. Sweet and so on but not always lasting. I have been *shown* nothing that makes this more than a HS relationship that in the real world probably wouldn't last.

Secondly, the 'meta' and the use of fandom complaints irritated me. Was it fun to see Kurt snark about sitting on a stool whilst Blaine sang? Yes. Will it change anything? No, he will still sing 5 songs to Kurt's 1 (discaimer: I have not actually worked out a ratio; this may be hyperbole but it *feels* damn accurate). And this is the f***ing way they write them so don't piss me off, RIB, by making a non-resolvable plot point out of it and don't make Kurt snark about this but not let the characters actually deal with it as an issue. Don't have Blaine complain about moving schools as if it has always been a point of festering bitterness ready to come out in a fight and yet never have shown that *or* be ready to show them actually dealing with it. Don't have a supposed possible LI ("See! We're showing Kurt would have options!") and then make him a cartoon which not even Kurt was taking seriously. No, a hyper, badly acted puppy with an appalling taste in puns was not a serious threat. And, lastly, don't write lines about alpha gays, RIB. *You* are the ones who have written it like this and I really hate you for it. I hate the fact that young fem boys who finally got a f***ing *hero* in S1 see him continually measured up against his bf and found supposedly wanting. And, no, I didn't want a cipher or an 'inferior' as a bf for Kurt but I didn't want the 'alpha' vs. him either. And, especially, don't let him bring that up and then have it brushed under the carpet with an office scene which was all about Blaine's problems and Kurt's failings.

I really, really want them to break up now. YMMV. I don't ride roughshod over the alternative perceptions of them as a cute, sweet couple. I'm glad others can see that and enjoy them. It sure makes Glee easier. For me though, there are issues there that *never* have and *never* will be resolved. Also, Blaine is unrecognisable from S2. Where is the mature, confident boy in this insecure, needy characterisatioon they seem to be pushing now? Nowhere to be seen and, frankly, I find his neediness yet coupled with a still 'golden boy' persona annoying as anything. Sigh... I never will see Kurt Hummel on the loose in the NYC dating field and that makes me want to cry.
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Post  sahhar on 4/30/2012, 10:41 pm

You're not the only one upset to not see Kurt playing the NYC dating field. Then again nothing surprises me with the Glee writers anymore. Even if Kurt ends up being single in NYC one day they'll have him depressed over losing perfect Blaine and never dating ever again Rolling Eyes dryy .

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Post  Jellyrolls on 4/30/2012, 11:13 pm

sahhar wrote:You're not the only one upset to not see Kurt playing the NYC dating field. Then again nothing surprises me with the Glee writers anymore. Even if Kurt ends up being single in NYC one day they'll have him depressed over losing perfect Blaine and never dating ever again Rolling Eyes dryy .

After last weeks episode, I'm not sure if we want to see Kurt playing the field. These sick writers will probably just keep on bring out worse overanimated versions of Chandler to persue Kurt. If Kurt isn't with the perfect alpha gay Blaine, then he's only capable of getting femme gays who are more flamboyant than himself.

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Post  red texta on 5/1/2012, 1:12 am

There's nothing wrong with femme gays, Jellyrolls, and they're certainly not second best to the so called 'alpha gays', despite what the show tells us, but Chandler himself was certainly not 'hot'. Cute and friendly and even attractive in a non-sexual, non threatening way, but not 'hot'. I think it's partly because they didn't want him to be a credible threat to Klaine but also the usual Glee thing of minimizing gay sexuality. I don't think it's their way of saying Kurt can 'only' get femme gays. but I do think that if Kurt was single and dating hot studs in New York, we'd never see them onscreen. Like in Will and Grace.



This is from tumblr (Gavroche, Kurt and Chandler). Super cute wub I love it but at the same time, this is kinda how Fox prefer us to see the gay guys rather than the more confronting NSFW version.

Forgot the source: Keep Frozen. There's some other lovely art on that tumblr too, including Kurt and Tina as The Phantom and Christine.


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Post  fantastica on 5/1/2012, 1:19 am

I am sure there are a lot of things the show didn't intend, but still appear offensive. soemtimes it maybe be the "subconscious" on the part of hte writer that are causing the problem. other times they may just want to reflect reality - realy is often very unfair to certain group of people. there is absolutely nothing wrong w/ femme gays, or adorable cute little people. they are as deserving of love as attractive hot hunks. however, a big portion of the society do not think so, so teh show inadvertantly ends up reinforcing soceity's misconceptions by injecting these understones in the storyline.
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Post  ColferInspired on 5/1/2012, 1:24 am

Heyerchick wrote:My very favourite of all Kurt's gorgeous boots

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Post  ColferGirl on 5/1/2012, 1:26 am

red texta wrote:



This is from tumblr (Gavroche, Kurt and Chandler). Super cute wub I love it but at the same time, this is kinda how Fox prefer us to see the gay guys rather than the more confronting NSFW version.

AWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!! This is adorable!!!! wub wub wub *right click save* Thanks for sharing this!

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